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armandro
01/25/22 8:18:50 PM
#1:


like did u guys ever fall for 100%ing a game?

like idk it always felt like a scam that preyed on people with a certain addiction

like those gacha games

like even now with gamefaqs having trophies

if i look at the top people
i dont even know who they fucking are

do they even post?

like getting a trophy for visiting everyday

seems odd and just a way to trap people with this to get to visit the site

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Xatrion
01/25/22 8:19:53 PM
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If they're fun or somewhat challenging, sure.
If they're damn near impossible (think Step and Razor or Two for One from Halo 3) or a bloody long grind (Any gears game), then no.

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armandro
01/25/22 8:20:41 PM
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Xatrion posted...
If they're fun or somewhat challenging, sure.
If they're damn near impossible (think Step and Razor or Two for One from Halo 3) or a bloody long grind (Any gears game), then no.
yeah i agree

I remember i had a friend obsessed with that stuff
and FF13 had some turtle stuff

idk he said he took forever but he did it

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Mr_Karate_II
01/25/22 8:21:40 PM
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I like them and some you have to be really good at the game to get plus it kinda gives some bragging rights among friends.

There's only been a few games where I've gotten 100% percent of the achievements though .

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MabusIncarnate
01/25/22 8:22:22 PM
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I like them, I'm not a completionist, but I like getting them. If I really enjoy a game, it extends the replay value working toward more achievements.

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Jagr_68
01/25/22 8:26:26 PM
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I dig trophy hunting but I know how to draw the line when it comes to multiplayer trophies or ones involving heavy grinding or anything extraordinarily difficult.

Examples:
Sure = Wolfenstein TNO, Spider-Man, Control, Soulsborne (ironically the easiest platinums), Yakuza

Nope = any Devil May Cry game requiring Hell or Hell completion, any Battlefield game, and Resident Evil


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MabusIncarnate
01/25/22 8:29:42 PM
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Also worth noting, on Xbox, you get a rebate the higher your gamerscore is. If you are over 60k you get a permanent 5% rebate on anything digital you purchase.

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armandro
01/25/22 8:40:37 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Also worth noting, on Xbox, you get a rebate the higher your gamerscore is. If you are over 60k you get a permanent 5% rebate on anything digital you purchase.
holy crap

i didnt know this

my friend who was a completionist played skyrim on the ps3
and was mad that his save file got corrupt

Microsoft is smart


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Antifar
01/25/22 8:49:37 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Also worth noting, on Xbox, you get a rebate the higher your gamerscore is. If you are over 60k you get a permanent 5% rebate on anything digital you purchase.
Also you can get 50 points on Microsoft rewards (~5 cents) for each day you get at least one achievement.

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MC_BatCommander
01/25/22 8:51:07 PM
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I tend to ignore them usually, I'll complete the achievements if it only requires one playthrough and I don't have to do anything really annoying though.

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MabusIncarnate
01/25/22 8:51:27 PM
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Antifar posted...
Also you can get 50 points on Microsoft rewards (~5 cents) for each day you get at least one achievement.
Yeah this also. You just gotta click the window in the app when you unlock one.

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KiwiTerraRizing
01/25/22 8:52:21 PM
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Nobody gives a shit about your plats

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MabusIncarnate
01/25/22 8:52:43 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I tend to ignore them usually, I'll complete the achievements if it only requires one playthrough and I don't have to do anything really annoying though.
I dont tend to look at them beforehand, they pop as I progress. If I'm inspired to try for more, I'll check the achievement list and see what I can work towards.

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gunplagirl
01/25/22 8:56:58 PM
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I'm fine with them. Sucks when you have ones like Undertale where you don't even need to beat the game to platinum trophy it. But I'll take that over ones like a few rpgs that are like "spend 100 hours in battle!"

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SauI_Goodman
01/25/22 8:58:20 PM
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Dont care for them. Back in my day we disnt have them. Ive had xbox since day 1 and my achievement score is 30,000. Gamerscore is not indicative of skill. That guy who got a million points just went out and did all the easy ones.

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Antifar
01/25/22 8:59:33 PM
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Anyways I'm not like, super into achievements, but their absence on Switch feels weird. Not getting any sort of acknowledgment when you accomplish something big...

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NinjaWarrior455
01/25/22 9:01:46 PM
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I enjoyed collecting achievements when I still olayed but there were a lot of bullshit ones that I wouldn't even bother attempting. A lot of multiplayer ones weren't worth the trouble like Gears or Guitar Hero.

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mooreandrew58
01/25/22 9:02:55 PM
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Depends. I like that it will get me to do things I normally wouldn't and sometimes end up having fun with it. But if it's boring frustrating or multi-player based I ain't going out of my way for it. Think I've gotten all trophies achievements in maybe 2 or 3 games.


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discodancer77
01/25/22 9:06:22 PM
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If its easy enough, and I already nearly get all trophies just by playing through a game normally, Ill platinum it if its not too much trouble


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MabusIncarnate
01/25/22 9:08:46 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Dont care for them. Back in my day we disnt have them. Ive had xbox since day 1 and my achievement score is 30,000. Gamerscore is not indicative of skill. That guy who got a million points just went out and did all the easy ones.
I agree mostly, except for tracking difficulty achievements. I finished EDF 2017 on Inferno difficulty, took over 200 hours, but having a record of that accomplishment is cool.

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armandro
01/25/22 9:11:12 PM
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it literally cost your damn time???

i can't tell u how many times I asked my friend to hang out but he was too busy playing video games

I mean i was the same then i realized how bad it was and how it gave gamers a bad name

what made me realize this was DLC trophies

omg i was so pissed off when my killzone 2 was a plat but not 100%

how does that make any sense

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DrizztLink
01/25/22 9:13:26 PM
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armandro posted...
it literally cost your damn time???
Says the guy spending all his free time getting his dumbass opinions dunked on on a shitty video game social board.

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K181
01/25/22 9:14:10 PM
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I don't care at all about them.

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AsucaHayashi
01/25/22 9:19:55 PM
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i would instantly kill all cheevos if it meant bringing old school cheat codes and big head mode etc. back

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mooreandrew58
01/25/22 9:20:34 PM
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My best friend used to do it to me. Turns out he didn't wanna hang with another friend of mine that was always around. I was like bruh why didn't you just say so. For clarification he wasn't my best friend yet but I still liked him more than other dude.

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armandro
01/25/22 9:33:29 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Says the guy spending all his free time getting his dumbass opinions dunked on on a shitty video game social board.
how much free time do you think i have?

how much of that time is the percent of my time

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not just me the whole HS crew

if he wants out he can just say so

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armandro
01/25/22 9:33:57 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
My best friend used to do it to me. Turns out he didn't wanna hang with another friend of mine that was always around. I was like bruh why didn't you just say so. For clarification he wasn't my best friend yet but I still liked him more than other dude.
lmao yeah just say so omg

speak up son

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Nemu
01/25/22 9:37:49 PM
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I think they're fine when they're basically just a progression list with some challenges and some funny gimmicks. When it's just a bunch of shit like "play multiplayer for 1500 hours to achieve some pointless rank" or "repeat this one action 500 times unnaturally because you'd never use it that much in normal gameplay," then it's just being done for the sake of the system. You can have a separate system for multiplayer. You don't need a bunch of bad and pointless filler trophies. Just make them automatically obtained filler via natural progression. Easy enough.
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armandro
01/25/22 9:52:01 PM
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Nemu posted...
I think they're fine when they're basically just a progression list with some challenges and some funny gimmicks. When it's just a bunch of shit like "play multiplayer for 1500 hours to achieve some pointless rank" or "repeat this one action 500 times unnaturally because you'd never use it that much in normal gameplay," then it's just being done for the sake of the system. You can have a separate system for multiplayer. You don't need a bunch of bad and pointless filler trophies. Just make them automatically obtained filler via natural progression. Easy enough.
yeah i think probably when they had online only achievements is when it was bad

i mean some of them i could still do with lan party friends

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loafy013
01/25/22 9:55:07 PM
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Nemu posted... "repeat this one action 500 times unnaturally because you'd never use it that much in normal gameplay," then it's just being done for the sake of the system.
Uncharted is the poster child for this crap. "Get 20 headshots while hanging off a ledge"
"Kill 50 enemies while blind firing" "Get X kills with Y weapon" (and it repeats for every weapon in the game)

You can have a separate system for multiplayer.
I loved how the original Mass Effect games did this one. There were multiple either/or trophies that you could get through either single player or multiplayer. Like "reach level 30 in single player OR reach rank 60 in multiplayer"

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mooreandrew58
01/26/22 12:01:12 AM
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loafy013 posted...
Uncharted is the poster child for this crap. "Get 20 headshots while hanging off a ledge"
"Kill 50 enemies while blind firing" "Get X kills with Y weapon" (and it repeats for every weapon in the game)

I loved how the original Mass Effect games did this one. There were multiple either/or trophies that you could get through either single player or multiplayer. Like "reach level 30 in single player OR reach rank 60 in multiplayer"

I just wish single player and multilayer had separate trophy lists like how dlc trophies are separate. Cause more often than not I'm gonna like one and not the other. Like DOOM I like single player more I don't touch MP. For Honor I did thr single player campaign once and never touched it again. Halo I actually liked both but multi-player more.

But most of the time I don't touch multi-player in games. I don't like dealing with people once I'm home for the day.

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FurryPhilosifer
01/26/22 12:13:11 AM
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I'm split on them. On one hand, I like the way on games without them, like on Nintendo systems or older ones, I can just decide for myself when the game is done. "I've done it all, I'm pleased with my completion". Whereas on the Xbox or Playstation or whatever the game would be like "Well, you haven't killed 20 enemies with the spear of Kangreia yet! You call this 100%??".

On the other hand, I've definitely enjoyed some games more because of it. I've used playstyles or played and enjoyed games like Skyrim or Mass Effect in ways I otherwise wouldn't have were it not for achievements/trophies.

However, I did get the platinum trophy for every Danganronpa game, which was quite possibly the most tedious thing I've ever done, so it's a net negative overall.

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armandro
01/26/22 12:14:46 AM
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
I'm split on them. On one hand, I like the way on games without them, like on Nintendo systems or older ones, I can just decide for myself when the game is done. "I've done it all, I'm pleased with my completion". Whereas on the Xbox or Playstation or whatever the game would be like "Well, you haven't killed 20 enemies with the spear of Kangreia yet! You call this 100%??".

On the other hand, I've definitely enjoyed some games more because of it. I've used playstyles or played and enjoyed games like Skyrim or Mass Effect in ways I otherwise wouldn't have were it not for achievements/trophies.

However, I did get the platinum trophy for every Danganronpa game, which was quite possibly the most tedious thing I've ever done, so it's a net negative overall.
idk i remember games like spyro had 100% stuff

but like when online gaming came out it was harder

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