Current Events > Shocking no one, Activision will not voluntarily recognize Raven's Union

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DepreceV2 01/25/22 8:28:10 PM #1:	Insert Shock pikachu meme below https://twitter.com/polygon/status/1486142624708898821?s=21 --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:962077189] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>Insert Shock pikachu meme below https://twitter.com/polygon/status/1486142624708898821?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teh_Dr_Phil 01/25/22 8:41:25 PM #2:	who --- Yep. <cite>Teh_Dr_Phil posted [p:962077500] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>who </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/25/22 8:43:09 PM #3:	Teh_Dr_Phil posted... who The QA testers for Call of Duty has been on strike for months. This is why all the Call of Duty games became broken after a latch dropped. No QA testers --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:962077539] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>Teh_Dr_Phil posted... </cite> <quote>who</quote> The QA testers for Call of Duty has been on strike for months. This is why all the Call of Duty games became broken after a latch dropped. No QA testers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 01/25/22 8:52:50 PM #4:	How is a union NOT a direct dialogue? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:962077787] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>How is a union NOT a direct dialogue? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 01/25/22 8:54:48 PM #5:	Ruvan22 posted... How is a union NOT a direct dialogue? Its Activision. Nothing will change until the acquisition. Im fact, it will get worse. Kotick is just going to check out --- Reminder: On March 2nd, 2021, Texas removed mask mandates and allowed 100% capacity for businesses. <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:962077834] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>How is a union NOT a direct dialogue?</quote> Its Activision. Nothing will change until the acquisition. Im fact, it will get worse. Kotick is just going to check out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 01/25/22 9:08:30 PM #6:	Ruvan22 posted... How is a union NOT a direct dialogue? its standard corporate messaging. whenever they present anti-union stuff in the face of possible unionization one of the more common go-tos is "we are a big happy family and unions are a go between that prevents us from working out our problems together directly" (together meaning in a way where you have no leverage and can easily be fucked) --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:962078205] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>How is a union NOT a direct dialogue?</quote> its standard corporate messaging. whenever they present anti-union stuff in the face of possible unionization one of the more common go-tos is "we are a big happy family and unions are a go between that prevents us from working out our problems together directly" (together meaning in a way where you have no leverage and can easily be fucked) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 01/26/22 8:44:44 AM #7:	ultimate reaver posted... its standard corporate messaging. whenever they present anti-union stuff in the face of possible unionization one of the more common go-tos is "we are a big happy family and unions are a go between that prevents us from working out our problems together directly" (together meaning in a way where you have no leverage and can easily be fucked) Oh I'm sure it's double speak, I was just (morbidly) curious as to their explanation/rationale! <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:962088278] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>ultimate reaver posted... </cite> <quote>its standard corporate messaging. whenever they present anti-union stuff in the face of possible unionization one of the more common go-tos is "we are a big happy family and unions are a go between that prevents us from working out our problems together directly" (together meaning in a way where you have no leverage and can easily be fucked)</quote> Oh I'm sure it's double speak, I was just (morbidly) curious as to their explanation/rationale! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 01/26/22 8:45:54 AM #8:	Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:962088299] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Creep_2020 01/26/22 8:50:21 AM #9:	lilORANG posted... Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team. Its Activision, lol --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone <cite>The_Creep_2020 posted [p:962088359] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team.</quote>Its Activision, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 01/26/22 8:50:56 AM #10:	lilORANG posted... Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team. Activision absolutely would. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:962088369] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team.</quote> Activision absolutely would. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 01/26/22 8:54:44 AM #11:	lilORANG posted... Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team. I mean yeah they are. At least while Kotick is around --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:962088430] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>Does that really matter in practice? If the workers stay united, Activision can cover its ears and try to ignore them but they're not going to fire an entire dev team.</quote>I mean yeah they are. At least while Kotick is around </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 01/26/22 8:59:11 AM #12:	SuperShake666 posted... Activision absolutely would. Then the union aspect doesn't matter much does it? They can recognize the union and and still fire them. If they're willing to replace an entire team that team doesn't have much power regardless of what they do. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:962088500] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>SuperShake666 posted... </cite> <quote>Activision absolutely would.</quote>Then the union aspect doesn't matter much does it? They can recognize the union and and still fire them. If they're willing to replace an entire team that team doesn't have much power regardless of what they do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 01/26/22 9:09:00 AM #13:	lilORANG posted... Then the union aspect doesn't matter much does it? They can recognize the union and and still fire them. If they're willing to replace an entire team that team doesn't have much power regardless of what they do. Once the union has been formally established they legally have to engage in good faith contract negotiation. Most likely any Union contract would involve a clause that allows for appeal or arbitration for employees who feel they have been fired without merit. So Activision could try firing the entire team, but it would trigger months if not years of arbitration where Activision has to provide evidence to justify each individual firing. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:962088679] in Shocking n... [t:79869709]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite> <quote>Then the union aspect doesn't matter much does it? They can recognize the union and and still fire them. If they're willing to replace an entire team that team doesn't have much power regardless of what they do.</quote> Once the union has been formally established they legally have to engage in good faith contract negotiation. Most likely any Union contract would involve a clause that allows for appeal or arbitration for employees who feel they have been fired without merit. So Activision could try firing the entire team, but it would trigger months if not years of arbitration where Activision has to provide evidence to justify each individual firing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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