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ENZC 01/26/22 4:20:03 PM #1: |
Continued headlines of "Pfizer & Moderna developing Omicron specific formula!" That's cool. Is anyone else? Or are profits more important than human lives? After all, heaven forbid we share our formula with a different company, and that company tweaks it to create a perfect vaccine with 100% efficacy. What would happen to our profits then!?!? --- Developing Infectious Disease Treatments 40 Years of Drug Development Excellence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ENZC 01/27/22 2:59:15 PM #2: |
ENZC posted... Continued headlines of "Pfizer & Moderna developing Omicron specific formula!" --- Developing Infectious Disease Treatments 40 Years of Drug Development Excellence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Popo 01/27/22 3:00:54 PM #4: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/4/AAEqD0AAC2zw.jpg --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Billyionaire 01/27/22 3:01:31 PM #5: |
ENZC posted... --- $ex ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/27/22 3:02:19 PM #6: |
It's almost like we should publically fund all science rather then let capitalism sully the profitable portion. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MixedRaceBaby 01/27/22 3:02:25 PM #7: |
yeah thats what we need "Bubba Ray's HomeMade Covid Vaccine, now with 98% less shrimp" --- For the mixed race babies! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 01/27/22 3:04:00 PM #8: |
because there aren't dozens of pharma companies chomping at the bits to drop billions of dollars on investing in infrastructure to produce mRNA vaccines? or are you saying you've got all this set up in your back yard right now TC? people parroting this are arguing the wrong point. the issue isn't that "BIG PHARMA IS LIMITING SUPPLY!?!?!", its that countries around the world are sitting on huge stocks of supply until it expires. well that and there's huge swaths of populations in said countries refusing to take the vaccine in the first place. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 01/27/22 3:06:19 PM #10: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] not defending it, just pointing out how stupid the argument is. screaming that patented vaccines are the reason the pandemic exists is short sighted as fuck. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/27/22 3:07:09 PM #11: |
monkmith posted... because there aren't dozens of pharma companies chomping at the bits to drop billions of dollars on investing in infrastructure to produce mRNA vaccines?Well, actually... https://inthesetimes.com/article/big-pharma-manufacturing-mrna-pfizer-moderna-africa-asia-latin-america A new report finds that, despite months of claims to the contrary by Big Pharma, at least 120 manufacturers in Africa, Asia and Latin America currently have the capacity to produce mRNA vaccines, but are not doing so because drug companies Pfizer and Moderna are refusing to share technology and information (and governments are not compelling them to). As a result, millions of people across the globe stand to die due to lack of access to vaccines, all because our international system is predicated on pharmaceutical monopolies, not cooperation and knowledge sharing. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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doomcrusader 01/27/22 3:11:54 PM #14: |
The Popo posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/4/AAEqD0AAC2zw.jpg I had this Mad magazine that this very same foldout joke was in. Crazy. Also, I don't think anyone would be surprised if these companies already had a perfect vaccine already made. But it's always been more profitable to treat than cure. --- http://i.imgur.com/tqMGw.png http://i.imgur.com/IHbuM.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 01/27/22 3:13:42 PM #15: |
ENZC posted... Or are profits more important than human lives?Welcome to capitalism. --- https://i.imgur.com/hBtvVNu.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:21:23 PM #17: |
Those companiesPfizer specifically, are just criminal organizations operating within a legal framework that their team of lawyers and paid politicians have helped them erect. The instant legislation was passed absolving these companies from any liability if their vaccines caused any bodily harm or death, EVERYONE should have realized this is ALL about profits, and has nothing to do with our health. Fortunately theyve got people so brainwashed that they dont even need to pressure people to participate in this little experiment...the sheep have done all the arguing and dirty work for themaka the greater good. These companies have specific counsel they hire to do the math and accounting on whether lawsuits and fines are outweighed by profits. If they can knowingly sell a product that kills people, but make hundreds of times more than what any fines and punishment result in: THEY DO IT. --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 01/27/22 3:22:44 PM #18: |
why is your username the ticker symbol for a biotech company? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/27/22 3:23:13 PM #19: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... Fuck out of here with this. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/27/22 3:24:09 PM #20: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... I think you're reading from the wrong script here. The issue isn't the vaccines being dangerous, it's that they work and are being denied to the world's poor. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NightingaleMD 01/27/22 3:27:14 PM #22: |
COVxy posted... It's almost like we should publically fund all science rather then let capitalism sully the profitable portion. Worst statement in topic The space shuttle was a public program from NASA. They could get one launch a year or so and each one cost like over a hundred million dollars SpaceX comes along and makes reusable stuff that is getting the cost of each falcon launch down to less than a million per launch There are drawbacks of privatization, yes, but many benefits. --- Pit doc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:27:35 PM #24: |
COVxy posted... Fuck out of here with this. Lmfao truth hurts, I know. All the criminal activity these companies have partook in is readily available to look up VERY easily. Educate yourself. ...or dontI dont care if you want to do what you want to do, by all means do what you want, just make sure that respect is returned, especially when it comes to medical procedures that involve any risks. --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:30:53 PM #25: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I dont come here that often anymore (gfaqs, not this sub specifically). 2 are in a stickied topic from Fallout 4, years ago, and one was just made a little bit ago in another post about babies being at risk for COVID. My one post in there was mentioning the vast amount of women being ignored and silenced over issues with reproductive organs after getting vaccinated. Why? Lol --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/27/22 3:33:16 PM #26: |
NightingaleMD posted... Worst statement in topic NASA has far more overarching priorities beyond just cheaply shooting shit into space. Not sure what good you think the billionaire space race is providing lol. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/27/22 3:36:18 PM #27: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... Lmfao truth hurts, I know. The vaccine is probably one of the safest drugs that exists lol. You, however, are spreading harmful misinformation/insinuations. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/27/22 3:37:20 PM #28: |
NightingaleMD posted... The space shuttle was a public program from NASA. They could get one launch a year or so and each one cost like over a hundred million dollarsAlso there's no liability for NASA killing off at least seventeen astronauts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:39:35 PM #29: |
Antifar posted... I think you're reading from the wrong script here. The issue isn't the vaccines being dangerous, it's that they work and are being denied to the world's poor. Yeah the issue with this statement is that we were led to believe the vaccines stop you from getting COVID, yet statistics show COVID is now more out of control than its ever been, even in countries with the highest vaccination rates. Their solution? More shots lol... This is all the same scriptthis is all about money. Why would they mandate a vaccine that doesnt stop you from getting or spreading COVID? Why are natural antibodies not good enough (science claims they are) to be exempt from the vaccine? Why are people who literally cant get the shot for medical and religious reasons most of the time being denied for their exemptions? The more people they force and coerce into taking the vaccinethe more money Big Pharma and its constituents rake in. Again, these companies have a terrible fucking track record with their medications having life altering side effects down the road, but this timethis time theyre all for the people and our health! Yeah...no... --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/27/22 3:41:38 PM #31: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... All the criminal activity these companies have partook in is readily available to look up VERY easily.If it's so easy then provide the sources. That's what you're supposed to do when you read to the class. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Intro2Logic 01/27/22 3:42:07 PM #32: |
If the covid vaccines were dangerous the richest countries in the world would not be the most vaccinated. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:42:16 PM #33: |
COVxy posted... The vaccine is probably one of the safest drugs that exists lol. You, however, are spreading harmful misinformation/insinuations. No Im not. Im being skeptical, and rightfully so based on these companies track records. You, on the other hand, are throwing out bullshit terms like harmful misinformation to stifle debate on the subject. You havent addressed any of the supposedly harmful points I touched on. The only thing what I brought up is harmful to, is Big Pharmas bottom line. Do you work for them or something? --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UghWhoCares 01/27/22 3:43:48 PM #34: |
Vaccines are saving lives and we have one dude going on unhinged rants about Pfizer and another one jerking off billionaires polluting the world with a private space race. Jesus fuck. --- Support local music ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UghWhoCares 01/27/22 3:44:55 PM #35: |
Intro2Logic posted... If the covid vaccines were dangerous the richest countries in the world would not be the most vaccinated.Seriously its that fucking simple. All the most powerful people in the world are vaccinated. If this shit was dangerous wed be sending them to the global south. --- Support local music ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:47:20 PM #36: |
BakonBitz posted... If it's so easy then provide the sources. That's what you're supposed to do when you read to the class. This isnt some outlandish claim, its common public knowledge, but here you go for a start. If youre not satisfied with anything this says, then go to www.duckduckgo.com and type in Pfizer criminal history for a start. Youll be hit with an avalanche of their bullshit. https://www.dmlawfirm.com/crimes-of-covid-vaccine-maker-pfizer-well-documented/ Heres a brief glimpse of Pfizers track record for safety and ethics. This is a short list, by no means inclusive of the companys entire rap sheet.
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COVxy 01/27/22 3:48:35 PM #37: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... No Im not. Im being skeptical No, you don't know how to be skeptical in this domain, you are not trained to evaluate these things. Your "skepticism" is just dollar store conspiracy theory, held up by a scaffolding that has been duct taped together by talking heads on youtube. N3xtG3nGam3r posted... You, on the other hand, are throwing out bullshit terms like harmful misinformation to stifle debate on the subject. There is no debate here. The data has been collected, the clinical trials showed the vaccine to be both remarkably safe and effective. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/27/22 3:51:46 PM #38: |
Well I did that and immediately got a Fact Check result. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/19/fact-check-resolved-lawsuits-against-pfizer-alleged-marketing-fraud/4857499001/ --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:51:59 PM #39: |
COVxy posted... No, you don't know how to be skeptical in this domain, you are not trained to evaluate these things. Your "skepticism" is just dollar store conspiracy theory, held up by a scaffolding that has been duct taped together by talking heads on youtube. Yes, the data that Pfizer tried to hide behind lock and key for 75 years will soon be available (lmfao huge red flag right there youre overlooking), and can be disseminated by people who arent compromised or biased towards Pfizer, and then we will truly see how effective and safe their product is. You're not living in reality my dude. --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WilliamPorygon 01/27/22 3:52:43 PM #40: |
ENZC posted... Or are profits more important than human lives?bingo --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 01/27/22 3:53:42 PM #41: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... Yes, the data that Pfizer tried to hide behind lock and key for 75 years will soon be available (lmfao huge red flag right there youre overlooking), and can be disseminated by people who arent compromised or biased towards Pfizer, and then we will truly see how effective and safe their product is. ...you can look up the clinical trial data yourself, right now, if you would like. It's not hidden. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/27/22 3:54:31 PM #42: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... You're not living in reality my dude.That's a mirror. Here's some data that doesn't come from Pfizer and which you might find interesting https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1478438901299638276 --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NightMarishPie 01/27/22 3:57:06 PM #43: |
https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/myths-vaccine-manufacturing tl;dr it's really not that easy to produce a vaccine at all. On top of that, people are already skeptical of Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and they work incredibly well. Imagine giving the vaccine to another pharmaceutical producer and they mess it up and do kill people with the vaccine. The legitimacy of vaccines would be ruined forever. --- "Who dares, wins" 3DS FC: 1521 3697 7272 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/27/22 3:57:07 PM #44: |
Like, I'm not denying that Pfizer has done some criminal shit (even I believe they only are concerned about profit rather than spreading the vaccine en masse), but using that for anti-vaxx rhetoric is beyond stupid. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 3:58:01 PM #45: |
BakonBitz posted... Well I did that and immediately got a Fact Check result. The fact check doesnt specify whats even misleading, just stating its misleading, and what does some social media post being fact checked have to do with the list I provided? You cant make this up either, you googled it and receive a canned fact check response, I ddgo it and get the actual list of lawsuits and criminal charges. Lol. Anyways, whatever you posted has nothing to do with anything I said. --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 01/27/22 3:58:07 PM #46: |
BakonBitz posted... (even I believe they only are concerned about profit rather than spreading the vaccine en masse)Probably both. There's no way the patents aren't being licensed by other companies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 01/27/22 3:59:33 PM #47: |
NightMarishPie posted... tl;dr it's really not that easy to produce a vaccine at all.The biggest claim here, that there simply aren't other companies with the capability to produce MRNA vaccines, is debunked by the study I posted about in post 11. It's nothing more than a talking point ginned up by the big companies to justify their continued price gouging at the expense of the people and countries that have always gotten the short end of history's stick. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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N3xtG3nGam3r 01/27/22 4:00:36 PM #48: |
BakonBitz posted... Like, I'm not denying that Pfizer has done some criminal shit (even I believe they only are concerned about profit rather than spreading the vaccine en masse), but using that for anti-vaxx rhetoric is beyond stupid. Why is that word even being brought up? Anti vaxx I meanwere talking about money and track record here. Ive explicitly stated people should do whatever they want, aka have the choice, and never said anything else. Im calling into question the moral and ethical code of these companies were all trusting to save us from this medical emergency. Anyone who who wants to get vaccinated should, and those who dont want to/need to, shouldnt. Nobody should be anti-anything. --- ASUS B-150 Gaming MoBo| Intel CORE i5 6500k @ 3.5GHz | 32GB DDR4 | 2TB HDD | 600w PSU | nVidia GTX 1080Ti 11GB GDDR5-X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/27/22 4:01:00 PM #49: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... You cant make this up either, you googled it and receive a canned fact check response, I ddgo it and get the actual list of lawsuits and criminal charges. Lol.Oh I got a list of what you say, it was at the forefront and I didn't have to dig for it. I just wanted to see if it wasn't just a specific search engine that gives out certain information. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BakonBitz 01/27/22 4:04:32 PM #50: |
N3xtG3nGam3r posted... Why is that word even being brought up? Anti vaxx I meanMight want to re-read your post on #17 if you're wondering why I'm calling this anti-vaxx rhetoric. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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