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ScazarMeltex 02/02/22 9:03:00 PM #1:	Religious beliefs that is. According to the bill, school employees found guilty of violating Standridges standards of religious sanctity face a fine of $10,000, and risk losing their job entirely. https://www.mic.com/impact/rob-standridge-teachers-religion-oklahoma --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:962316077] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Religious beliefs that is. According to the bill, school employees found guilty of violating Standridges standards of religious sanctity face a fine of $10,000, and risk losing their job entirely. https://www.mic.com/impact/rob-standridge-teachers-religion-oklahoma </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Indoril 02/02/22 9:04:23 PM #2:	Aye I made a topic about it and got like 10 posts. For as much as CE likes to talk about cancel culture and free speech, they don't get nearly as upset as they should about actual issues like this. It's horrifying. I don't know how else to put it. And this shit is sweeping the nation. I think like 30 states now have some sort of education-repression bill either on the books or proposed? --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Indoril posted [p:962316117] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Aye I made a topic about it and got like 10 posts. For as much as CE likes to talk about cancel culture and free speech, they don't get nearly as upset as they should about actual issues like this. It's horrifying. I don't know how else to put it. And this shit is sweeping the nation. I think like 30 states now have some sort of education-repression bill either on the books or proposed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 02/02/22 9:06:37 PM #3:	"My religious beliefs are that I should never be told I'm wrong. Give me a 100% on my test or your career is over." --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:962316182] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>"My religious beliefs are that I should never be told I'm wrong. Give me a 100% on my test or your career is over." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 02/02/22 9:12:27 PM #4:	this cant be legal. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:962316360] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>this cant be legal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/02/22 9:14:40 PM #5:	Zeeak4444 posted... this cant be legal. The supreme court let Texas levy a bounty on providers of a legal medical procedure. It's open season now for conservatives to do whatever they want. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:962316428] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>this cant be legal.</quote>The supreme court let Texas levy a bounty on providers of a legal medical procedure. It's open season now for conservatives to do whatever they want. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/02/22 9:15:18 PM #6:	Indoril posted... Aye I made a topic about it and got like 10 posts. For as much as CE likes to talk about cancel culture and free speech, they don't get nearly as upset as they should about actual issues like this. It's horrifying. I don't know how else to put it. And this shit is sweeping the nation. I think like 30 states now have some sort of education-repression bill either on the books or proposed? More like the right/conservatives hates cancel culture seems to push it more than anyone else. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:962316451] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Indoril posted... </cite> <quote>Aye I made a topic about it and got like 10 posts. For as much as CE likes to talk about cancel culture and free speech, they don't get nearly as upset as they should about actual issues like this. It's horrifying. I don't know how else to put it. And this shit is sweeping the nation. I think like 30 states now have some sort of education-repression bill either on the books or proposed?</quote> More like the right/conservatives hates cancel culture seems to push it more than anyone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/02/22 9:16:22 PM #7:	Yeah, but the liberals theoretically would want to do this if those liberals existed or had political power. So are they really any better? I am incredibly intelligent. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:962316474] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but the liberals theoretically would want to do this if those liberals existed or had political power. So are they really any better? I am incredibly intelligent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 02/02/22 9:17:12 PM #8:	According to my religious beliefs, all mathematics are symbols of the devil. Forcing me to do math is going against my beliefs and trying to coerce me into worshipping the devil. --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 <cite>Strider102 posted [p:962316494] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>According to my religious beliefs, all mathematics are symbols of the devil. Forcing me to do math is going against my beliefs and trying to coerce me into worshipping the devil. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 02/02/22 9:18:09 PM #9:	A proper education is a defense against the kind of bullshit that would lead to this shit in this first place. On some unspoken level, conservatives know that not making sense is their strong point, and enforcing that is how they stay in power. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:962316528] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>A proper education is a defense against the kind of bullshit that would lead to this shit in this first place. On some unspoken level, conservatives know that not making sense is their strong point, and enforcing that is how they stay in power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 02/02/22 9:18:50 PM #10:	ScazarMeltex posted... The supreme court let Texas levy a bounty on providers of a legal medical procedure. It's open season now for conservatives to do whatever they want. thats true, but god damn --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:962316546] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>The supreme court let Texas levy a bounty on providers of a legal medical procedure. It's open season now for conservatives to do whatever they want.</quote> thats true, but god damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/02/22 9:19:54 PM #11:	Why don't they just abolish schools and make parents teach their own kids then? What is the point of the concept if kids are only being exposed to what their individual parents allow anyway? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:962316574] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Why don't they just abolish schools and make parents teach their own kids then? What is the point of the concept if kids are only being exposed to what their individual parents allow anyway? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Indoril 02/02/22 9:29:48 PM #12:	LightHawKnight posted... More like the right/conservatives hates cancel culture seems to push it more than anyone else. Absolutely. Guide posted... A proper education is a defense against the kind of bullshit that would lead to this shit in this first place. Which is exactly why proper public education is the enemy of the conservative state. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Indoril posted [p:962316872] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>More like the right/conservatives hates cancel culture seems to push it more than anyone else.</quote>Absolutely. Guide posted... </cite> <quote>A proper education is a defense against the kind of bullshit that would lead to this shit in this first place.</quote>Which is exactly why proper public education is the enemy of the conservative state. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Indoril 02/02/22 9:30:18 PM #13:	hockeybub89 posted... Why don't they just abolish schools and make parents teach their own kids then? What is the point of the concept if kids are only being exposed to what their individual parents allow anyway? It's what they want. They want homeschooling and private schools to be the norm and public education to be incredibly limited or nonexistent. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Indoril posted [p:962316887] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't they just abolish schools and make parents teach their own kids then? What is the point of the concept if kids are only being exposed to what their individual parents allow anyway?</quote>It's what they want. They want homeschooling and private schools to be the norm and public education to be incredibly limited or nonexistent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/02/22 9:31:26 PM #14:	Indoril posted... It's what they want. They want homeschooling and private schools to be the norm and public education to be incredibly limited or nonexistent. Basically. They've wanted to destroy the public school system every since they were forced to desegregate it. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:962316918] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Indoril posted... </cite> <quote>It's what they want. They want homeschooling and private schools to be the norm and public education to be incredibly limited or nonexistent.</quote>Basically. They've wanted to destroy the public school system every since they were forced to desegregate it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 02/02/22 9:31:33 PM #15:	Hopefully someone uses the Satanic Temple's religious status and they have to honor it --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:962316924] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully someone uses the Satanic Temple's religious status and they have to honor it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 02/02/22 9:32:07 PM #16:	I believe in big mommy milkers --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:962316938] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>I believe in big mommy milkers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 02/02/22 9:33:24 PM #17:	This is really going to backfire on them when they learn that there are religions besides Christianity. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:962316983] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>This is really going to backfire on them when they learn that there are religions besides Christianity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Indoril 02/02/22 9:34:01 PM #18:	codey posted... This is really going to backfire on them when they learn that there are religions besides Christianity. The vast majority of students in an OK classroom are likely protestant Christians so I'm sure that's what they're banking on. In any case, the chilling effect will be there regardless. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Indoril posted [p:962317003] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>codey posted... </cite> <quote>This is really going to backfire on them when they learn that there are religions besides Christianity.</quote>The vast majority of students in an OK classroom are likely protestant Christians so I'm sure that's what they're banking on. In any case, the chilling effect will be there regardless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/02/22 9:37:20 PM #19:	codey posted... This is really going to backfire on them when they learn that there are religions besides Christianity. Just need one Muslim parent to raise a stink and you'll see quite a different tone . --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:962317112] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>codey posted... </cite> <quote>This is really going to backfire on them when they learn that there are religions besides Christianity.</quote>Just need one Muslim parent to raise a stink and you'll see quite a different tone . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0x4B616E6A6F 02/02/22 9:38:13 PM #20:	If this is supposed to be an anti evolution law, there is nothing in the bible that contradicts the theory of evolution <cite>0x4B616E6A6F posted [p:962317137] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>If this is supposed to be an anti evolution law, there is nothing in the bible that contradicts the theory of evolution </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/02/22 9:56:26 PM #21:	Isn't @DarkRoast from/in Oklahoma? Any other CEtizens there? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:962317601] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Isn't @DarkRoast from/in Oklahoma? Any other CEtizens there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/02/22 9:58:48 PM #22:	It's terrible, yeah, but these sorts of proposals are so fucking vague and ridiculous they'd be nigh-impossible to actually enforce in any meaningful way --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:962317669] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>It's terrible, yeah, but these sorts of proposals are so fucking vague and ridiculous they'd be nigh-impossible to actually enforce in any meaningful way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannaMontana 02/02/22 10:06:02 PM #23:	I mean teachers shouldn't be using propaganda in the class room. This is perfectly fine <cite>HannaMontana posted [p:962317870] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>I mean teachers shouldn't be using propaganda in the class room. This is perfectly fine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/02/22 10:08:31 PM #24:	HannaMontana posted... I mean teachers shouldn't be using propaganda in the class room. This is perfectly fine New User User Since: Jan 2022 Karma: 6 Active Posts: 28 --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:962317936] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HannaMontana posted... </cite> <quote>I mean teachers shouldn't be using propaganda in the class room. This is perfectly fine</quote>New User User Since: Jan 2022 Karma: 6 Active Posts: 28 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannaMontana 02/02/22 10:12:50 PM #25:	HylianFox posted... Rawr opinions <cite>HannaMontana posted [p:962318043] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite> <quote>Rawr opinions </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/02/22 10:15:50 PM #26:	HannaMontana posted... I mean teachers shouldn't be using propaganda in the class room. This is perfectly fine How does one define propaganda? Parents need to just shut the fuck up. Their parents weren't pulling this shit. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:962318121] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HannaMontana posted... </cite> <quote>I mean teachers shouldn't be using propaganda in the class room. This is perfectly fine</quote>How does one define propaganda? Parents need to just shut the fuck up. Their parents weren't pulling this shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greyfox747 02/02/22 10:16:30 PM #27:	please do not spend your night arguing with hanna montana --- Officially Certified Gamer Girl in 27 states She/her <cite>greyfox747 posted [p:962318137] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>please do not spend your night arguing with hanna montana </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/02/22 10:16:30 PM #28:	HannaMontana posted... There is no original content in this message available to quote. New User User Since: Jan 2022 Karma: 6 Active Posts: 32 --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:962318138] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HannaMontana posted... </cite> <quote>There is no original content in this message available to quote.</quote>New User User Since: Jan 2022 Karma: 6 Active Posts: 32 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannaMontana 02/02/22 10:17:50 PM #29:	I'd define propaganda as anything not course related. I mean I think we can all agree that teachers should strict strictly to the text book and such not going on political or religious tirades <cite>HannaMontana posted [p:962318172] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>I'd define propaganda as anything not course related. I mean I think we can all agree that teachers should strict strictly to the text book and such not going on political or religious tirades </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 02/02/22 10:21:14 PM #30:	HannaMontana posted... I'd define propaganda as anything not course related. I mean I think we can all agree that teachers should strict strictly to the text book and such not going on political or religious tirades I think we can all agree that you should shut the fuck up. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:962318257] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HannaMontana posted... </cite> <quote>I'd define propaganda as anything not course related. I mean I think we can all agree that teachers should strict strictly to the text book and such not going on political or religious tirades</quote>I think we can all agree that you should shut the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
0x4B616E6A6F 02/02/22 10:21:38 PM #31:	Why is evolution propaganda? <cite>0x4B616E6A6F posted [p:962318271] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>Why is evolution propaganda? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/02/22 10:22:11 PM #32:	HannaMontana posted... I'd define propaganda as anything not course related. I mean I think we can all agree that teachers should strict strictly to the text book and such not going on political or religious tirades Now now, let's not go the sealion route. Presenting ridiculous assertions as supposedly legitimate concerns won't help your case. --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:962318277] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HannaMontana posted... </cite> <quote>I'd define propaganda as anything not course related. I mean I think we can all agree that teachers should strict strictly to the text book and such not going on political or religious tirades</quote> Now now, let's not go the sealion route. Presenting ridiculous assertions as supposedly legitimate concerns won't help your case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannaMontana 02/02/22 10:24:02 PM #33:	0x4B616E6A6F posted... Why is evolution propaganda? Its not. It SHOULD be taught in science. But a teacher shouldn't use the platform of science to talk about religion. Again, thats not a controversial opinion <cite>HannaMontana posted [p:962318311] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>0x4B616E6A6F posted... </cite> <quote>Why is evolution propaganda?</quote> Its not. It SHOULD be taught in science. But a teacher shouldn't use the platform of science to talk about religion. Again, thats not a controversial opinion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 02/02/22 10:27:01 PM #34:	0x4B616E6A6F posted... Why is evolution propaganda? Any facts, history, science, or logic that makes right-wingers and religious types feel uncomfortable is "propaganda" You could say the Earth is round and get in trouble because some people believe the Earth is flat. >_> Also: You are now ignoring HannaMontana. ^that was true of the show, too --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:962318389] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>0x4B616E6A6F posted... </cite> <quote>Why is evolution propaganda?</quote> Any facts, history, science, or logic that makes right-wingers and religious types feel uncomfortable is "propaganda" You could say the Earth is round and get in trouble because some people believe the Earth is flat. >_> Also: You are now ignoring HannaMontana. ^that was true of the show, too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HannaMontana 02/02/22 10:29:53 PM #35:	The hypocrisy is delicious lol <cite>HannaMontana posted [p:962318459] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>The hypocrisy is delicious lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 02/02/22 10:31:48 PM #36:	greyfox747 posted... please do not spend your night arguing with hanna montana Especially when you never know if the account will be around to see your next response --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:962318494] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>greyfox747 posted... </cite> <quote>please do not spend your night arguing with hanna montana</quote>Especially when you never know if the account will be around to see your next response </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 02/02/22 11:38:17 PM #37:	HannaMontana posted... Its not. It SHOULD be taught in science. But a teacher shouldn't use the platform of science to talk about religion. Again, thats not a controversial opinion What exactly is an example of using science to talk about religion? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:962319827] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>HannaMontana posted... </cite> <quote>Its not. It SHOULD be taught in science. But a teacher shouldn't use the platform of science to talk about religion. Again, thats not a controversial opinion</quote> What exactly is an example of using science to talk about religion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/02/22 11:44:09 PM #38:	I think we need to focus on ending teacher-on-student violence. Sure, it's rare, but you hate children if you don't agree with my common sense agenda! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:962319934] in Oklahoma w... [t:79881862]...</cite> <quote>I think we need to focus on ending teacher-on-student violence. Sure, it's rare, but you hate children if you don't agree with my common sense agenda! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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