Topic List |
Page List:
1, 2 |
---|---|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 11:19:35 AM #1: |
It really is starting to feel like it actually is. It seems like these things are giving rise to it:
All it will take is a leader who they agree with and rally behind and this could actually be a thing we have to contend with. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
pinky0926 02/11/22 11:21:09 AM #2: |
It used to be the case that you could shun them back into their hidey holes, but now the internet has provided a platform for all of these clowns to congregate and pat each other on the back. Feels like every form of extremism is on the rise. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
TheOnionKnight 02/11/22 11:23:29 AM #3: |
Yes. It's worrisome, to say the least. --- The owls are not what they seem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
LightHawKnight 02/11/22 11:24:58 AM #4: |
pinky0926 posted... It used to be the case that you could shun them back into their hidey holes, but now the internet has provided a platform for all of these clowns to congregate and pat each other on the back. Feels like every form of extremism is on the rise. And now they control half our government and will probably control all of it in 2024. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 11:25:00 AM #5: |
oh ya, and future economic downturn could also give rise to this as they will feel the effects and look for a solution. but their solution will come from their distorted worldview putting the blame on the wrong places such as immigrants Tell these people that inflation and prices are going up and they just say it is Biden giving all our money to the poor via family stimulus packages. Cite a news source saying that is incorrect and they will laugh in your face saying your news source is bad and theirs is good. Ask them what their source is and they will either say "I don't know" or "saw something on facebook" It is unreal ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Xavier_On_High 02/11/22 11:25:32 AM #6: |
Fascism is always a threat, and must be stamped out wherever it starts to burn. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
HairyQueen 02/11/22 11:27:33 AM #7: |
US democracy has never been tested like it is now (at least not in our lifetimes). If we dont push back against this real threat of rising fascist political behaviors and anti-democratic bills then it may not survive. --- everybody loves intransigent zoo animals <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
AltyMcAltface 02/11/22 11:30:13 AM #8: |
yes, because of Trump and all of his delusional cultists --- "Altenticity is invaluable. Originality is warned/suspended." - Derp Darmusch ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Ozarhok 02/11/22 11:34:26 AM #9: |
No --- oops ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
a-c-a-b 02/11/22 11:34:29 AM #10: |
Here's a reading of an essay by Michael Parenti about American Fascism from 1996. More relevant now than ever. https://youtu.be/Yu6QTSnJbFs --- Save for your doomed future ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
CelestialVoices 02/11/22 11:35:55 AM #11: |
has been, guy --- ginger ale is lit http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 11:40:23 AM #12: |
Ozarhok posted... No please explain ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Criminalt 02/11/22 5:37:05 PM #13: |
When Trump loyalists can smash legal opposition to government policy by sending in what is effectively a party militia -- for example, shutting down a Texas butterfly sanctuary with harassment and threats of violence because it dared to file a lawsuit to block Trump's wall -- then you know that democracy and the rule of law in America are already under real, serious, and steadily worsening threat --- No tricks ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
AltyMcAltface 02/11/22 5:43:58 PM #14: |
a-c-a-b posted... Here's a reading of an essay by Michael Parenti about American Fascism from 1996.i listened to this damn is it ever --- "Altenticity is invaluable. Originality is warned/suspended." - Derp Darmusch ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hockeybub89 02/11/22 5:44:41 PM #15: |
It's poised to take over the American government in 2 years. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WorsCaseOntario 02/11/22 5:45:09 PM #16: |
No lol and Distrust of the media is fascism now? --- Frankly my dear, I don't give a ham. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
specialkid8 02/11/22 5:47:20 PM #17: |
Actual fascism or like, there are dumb people that disagree with my politics so they must be Nazis? --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Southernfatman 02/11/22 5:48:50 PM #18: |
Yeah and we're fucked. No one wants to do a thing about it. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 5:49:12 PM #19: |
specialkid8 posted... Actual fascism or like, there are dumb people that disagree with my politics so they must be Nazis? do you believe storming the capitol is just disagreeing with a political view? and violent anti-maskers? ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
waterjoe 02/11/22 5:49:52 PM #20: |
Dude all of this has been talked about for years now and nothing happened then and nothing is gonna happen now people need to chill and ignore. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Machete 02/11/22 5:50:15 PM #21: |
AltyMcAltface posted... yes, because of Trump and all of his delusional cultists --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
specialkid8 02/11/22 5:50:27 PM #22: |
WingsOfGood posted... do you believe storming the capitol is just disagreeing with a political view?Being a moron does not mean you're a fascist. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hockeybub89 02/11/22 5:51:16 PM #23: |
waterjoe posted... Dude all of this has been talked about for years now and nothing happened then and nothing is gonna happen now people need to chill and ignore.They're actively trying to take over schools and discourage confidence in science, especially modern medicine. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 5:51:34 PM #24: |
specialkid8 posted... Being a moron does not mean you're a fascist. So what does it take to become a fascist in your view? ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hockeybub89 02/11/22 5:52:03 PM #25: |
WorsCaseOntario posted... No lolI haven't met a diehard conservative that isn't trustful of mainstream media to a fault. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Number090684 02/11/22 5:52:27 PM #26: |
It is. Can't go anywhere in my predominantly white neighborhood without getting harassed or verbally abused by white right wing nutjobs driving by. Happened even with a few white cops too once. I avoid going out at night because of this. Seriously. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
MrToothHasYou 02/11/22 5:52:44 PM #27: |
I would say we are beyond rising threat at this point. Fascism is currently the dominant power in this country, and has been actively overthrowing any instruments of working class power that it can for some time now. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Inferno Dive Dragoon 02/11/22 5:54:27 PM #28: |
Outlook not so good. I'd like to say the US had a good run, but I can't remember when it wasn't a shithole. --- TCF ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 5:56:26 PM #29: |
WorsCaseOntario posted... No lol No. It is that said distrust is giving rise to fascism. That is, were the people turn to for their news are fascist replacements of the media they distrust. In addition, it makes it impossible to have a decent conversation with them. You can give them straight up facts and they will ask WHO reported them. That is all that matter. Not whether they are facts, but whether their fascist sources regurgitated it. This means they are extremely easy to doctrinate. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
waterjoe 02/11/22 5:59:08 PM #30: |
People needs to calm down and play video games dammit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
hockeybub89 02/11/22 6:00:29 PM #31: |
waterjoe posted... People needs to calm down and play video games dammit.That's what they want you to do --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Number090684 02/11/22 6:01:55 PM #32: |
waterjoe posted... People needs to calm down and play video games dammit. I wish that actually worked. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
WingsOfGood 02/11/22 6:03:53 PM #33: |
waterjoe posted... People needs to calm down and play video games dammit. You want the guys storming the capitol to do this or you want the people upset about them storming the capitol to do this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
MrMallard 02/11/22 6:29:51 PM #34: |
My current perspective is this: The past five years of the Republican party have been defined by the term "witch hunt". You can't fault Trump for saying he grabs women by the pussy and they love it because he's powerful, it was locker room talk and this criticism is a total witch hunt. Mark Gaetz and Brett Kavanaugh aren't weird sexual predators, despite all the weird sex shit they get embroiled in - this focus on weird rapey Republicans is a total witch hunt. Ted Cruz deserves to go on vacation, this controversy about him going to Cancun while Texas's infrastructure fails due to unprecedented winter weather is a total witch hunt. But look at what Republicans are doing right now with schools. Books written by black people from a black perspective are being removed for "promoting critical race theory". Books about the holocaust from Jewish writers talking about Jewish trauma are being removed for being too grisly, and for supposedly being sexual in such a way that it poses a risk of harming children - despite the one instance of female nudity in a book about the Holocaust depicting the author's mother in a bathtub with slashed wrists, and other nudity in these historical texts often amounting to naked female corpses residing in a mass grave. The term "witch hunt" has been overused to the point of losing any and all weight behind it, because dumb fucks keep using it to describe when some fuckface does something wrong and is criticized for it, when it's a term that applies to an unjustified or reactionary punishment of an innocuous action. It's been used to lowball actual fucking crimes and examples of wrongdoing, and that's served to desensitize people to the term. We're seeing a witch hunt right now with the policing of books in school libraries. We're seeing moral guardians obstruct important educational information on grounds of decency. But no-one is calling it a witch hunt because the last twenty times "witch hunt" became a news headline, it was dumb fucks like Marjorie Greene-Taylor saying that January 6 Capitol rioters shouldn't be sent to jail, or other morons downplaying fucked up things happening in the far right. Fascism is exactly the same. The right keep taking steps towards authoritarianism, and when they're met with accusations of furthering an agenda that removes power from the common American and grants the government unprecedented power to prosecute non-violent crime, they balk and they downplay and they blame the left. I've posted the steps of fascism screenshot before: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/8/AAbh80AAC6j-.jpg And the Trump administration hit every one of those items like a checklist. Yet whenever anyone brought it up, it was just fearmongering or weak beta male leftists overexaggerating what was really going on. We had an unqualified third party checking ballot papers in Arizona for fucking bamboo fibers because the Republican party insisted that the election was fraudulent and that legitimate Republican votes weren't counted and were supplanted with external voting slips from China. We saw immigrants being put in cages, we saw Mexicans being persecuted for being murderers and rapists, we saw Donald Trump rallying for a military parade in DC despite public infrastructure not being built to roll tanks down the street, we saw the right mischaracterize women as hysterical and needy which has continued to persist with criticism of AOC and other female Democrats, we saw Trump's takedowns of CNN to the point of removing their ability to ask questions at press hearings, Trump ran his entire campaign on a moronic fucking border wall that would have cost billions to build and countless billions to maintain for little actual benefit, we saw the seperation of church and state end, we saw regulations get slashed and labor forces lose what little power they had, we saw right-wing dickheads praise a president for saying he only watches TV and rally against the concept of an academic expert having input on important decisions - because academics are "elites" who ruin the world for their own nefarious means - we saw how empowered ICE became to attack American citizens in the name of national security and the rise of no-knock warrants, we saw corporate heads getting admitted to the highest cabinet of political influence in America like Rex Tillerson, and we finally saw the attempt to overturn the certification of an election in 2021. Every entry on that list, a list modelled on the rise of Nazi Germany that's displayed in holocaust museums, checked off by the Trump administration and being furthered by the fanatical right wing of America. You can see what's happening by the terms that people are trying to downplay or strip of power and meaning. The two terms I've noticed that happening to are "witch hunt" and "fascism". The right wing are currently engaging in both, because they put in the time and effort to delegitimize both terms and waste them on incomparable acts, so that when they began targeting books under moral guidelines and undermining law, decency and universal human rights, no-one would make a genuine effort to use a term associated with a total overreaction. So yeah, I would say that fascism is a rising threat in America. The fact that the right wing have been besieging government offices for years, culminating in an attempt to subvert the highest office in the nation, only for reactionary Republican dumb fucks to say "if you re-elect us, Jan 6 rioters will be released from jail and the committee who prosecuted them will be put in jail" should fucking terrify you. Sources: "Maus" nudity amounting to the author's mother with slashed wrists in a bathtub: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/27/us/tennessee-school-board-removes-maus/index.html Newt Gingrich threatens the government committee into the January 6 attack with jail time: https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/24/newt-gingrich-threatens-jail-time-for-jan-6-commit/ --- But for you I came this far across the tracks, 10 miles above the limit with no seatbelt Now Playing: Minecraft, Pokemon BD, World Flipper ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
ScazarMeltex 02/11/22 6:36:13 PM #35: |
Seeing as how the modern GOP and it's actions since Trump's rise fit pretty much all of the general principles laid out in Umberto Eco's Ur-Fascism I'd say yes.
--- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
IMNOTRAGED 02/11/22 6:42:08 PM #36: |
It's pretty funny how every time this topic comes up there're still a few people saying no without any sort of explanation all while legitimate experts on the matter are progressively yelling louder about how fucked we are --- http://i.imgur.com/kkm3QaD.jpg "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
RchHomieQuanChi 02/11/22 6:58:41 PM #37: |
specialkid8 posted... Actual fascism or like, there are dumb people that disagree with my politics so they must be Nazis? What else would you call it when one of the two dominant political parties in the U.S. openly embraces actual Neo-Nazis and white supremacists with open arms? --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Cheater87 02/11/22 6:59:32 PM #38: |
Yes, sadly it is. --- Doom, the game with unlimited ways to play. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
HairyQueen 02/13/22 6:03:34 AM #39: |
specialkid8 posted... Being a moron does not mean you're a fascist.I don't think they called you a fascist. --- everybody loves intransigent zoo animals <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Guide 02/13/22 6:18:18 AM #40: |
1/6 is a pretty fucking clear sign that it's a problem. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
indica 02/13/22 7:03:25 AM #41: |
Xavier_On_High posted... Fascism is always a threat, and must be stamped out wherever it starts to burn.It's funny you say that because the word "fascism" comes from Italian for a bundle of sticks... --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Taharqa_ 02/13/22 7:25:45 AM #42: |
We've only had a real democracy since 1965 after the Voting Rights Act. There are elements that want us to have an authoritarian government and have been baking that cake for 50 years, Trump just gave them a reason to go full mask off. The Republicans are a white nationalist party masquerading as a governing party. They see the demographic future on the horizon and are trying to cement white minority rule by picking away at the Voting Rights Act until it's a husk and make the process of voting arduous. Homegrown facism getting a serious hold is not out the question. We are one election cycle away from seizing permanent one party rule and rendering elections moot. --- "We tried to tell y'all." - African-American proverb ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Maninstagnate 02/13/22 7:38:11 AM #43: |
So guess Trump is winning then? Electing Biden didn't help you folks at all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
JimRob 02/13/22 7:41:06 AM #44: |
Maninstagnate posted... So guess Trump is winning then? Electing Biden didn't help you folks at all. A lot of people votes Biden simply because he wasn't Trump. That's hardly a good reason. Its not like the DNC gave people a good choice anyway though ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
BobanMarjanovic 02/13/22 7:48:16 AM #45: |
No, turn off the news and go for a walk. --- Chief Keef > your favorite rapper ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Guide 02/13/22 7:49:28 AM #46: |
BobanMarjanovic posted... No, turn off the news and go for a walk.stick your head in the sand, sure --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
gatorsPENSbucs 02/13/22 7:51:27 AM #47: |
specialkid8 posted... Actual fascism or like, there are dumb people that disagree with my politics so they must be Nazis? waterjoe posted... Dude all of this has been talked about for years now and nothing happened then and nothing is gonna happen now people need to chill and ignore. BobanMarjanovic posted... No, turn off the news and go for a walk. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://i.imgur.com/pqMQZyw.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
AltyMcAltface 02/13/22 10:40:41 AM #48: |
Taharqa_ posted... We've only had a real democracy since 1965 after the Voting Rights Act. There are elements that want us to have an authoritarian government and have been baking that cake for 50 years, Trump just gave them a reason to go full mask off.tbh, as long as the electoral college exists, we still won't have a real democracy --- "Altenticity is invaluable. Originality is warned/suspended." - Derp Darmusch ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
AltyMcAltface 02/13/22 10:41:47 AM #49: |
Maninstagnate posted... So guess Trump is winning then? Electing Biden didn't help you folks at all.ITP: electing the opposing candidate didn't help not elect Trump --- "Altenticity is invaluable. Originality is warned/suspended." - Derp Darmusch ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Crescente 02/13/22 10:46:32 AM #50: |
This topic makes me wonder...what is fascism? What forms of fascism is there? The one that I know...from the 1940s was pretty horrendous. But I can't see that form ever existing again, especially not in the west. ... Copied to Clipboard!
|
Topic List |
Page List:
1, 2 |