Current Events > Does Joe Biden even care that the stock market is crashing?

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Pepys Monster
02/11/22 2:20:29 PM
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What exactly is he doing?

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Irony
02/11/22 2:21:15 PM
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Stick to your stalker gimmick

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MFBKBass5
02/11/22 2:23:39 PM
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Stock market crashing is affecting the wealthy and the elite. Let it burn.


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toreysback
02/11/22 2:24:09 PM
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hodl

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Sexypwnstar
02/11/22 2:25:20 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
Stock market crashing is affecting the wealthy and the elite. Let it burn.

They already sold and reaped profits...

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Kaiganeer
02/11/22 2:25:28 PM
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time for the elevator to come down to the ground floor so more people can get on it
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bluezero
02/11/22 2:26:27 PM
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Joe Biden controls the stock market?

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Trumpo
02/13/22 2:55:34 PM
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bluezero posted...
Joe Biden controls the stock market?

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Yuuko-Chan
02/13/22 2:57:49 PM
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bluezero posted...
Joe Biden controls the stock market?

Not completely but we know how the DNC likes insider trading especially Pelosi

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Error1355
02/13/22 2:58:14 PM
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Look at Joe go.

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Guerrilla Soldier
02/13/22 2:59:23 PM
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who

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AltyMcAltface
02/13/22 2:59:55 PM
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bluezero posted...
Joe Biden controls the stock market?
he's gotta go to Wall Street and give em one of his firm "Listen here, Jack"s and tell em they're gonna start rising and they're gonna start rising now

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Solid Snake07
02/13/22 3:00:16 PM
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The S&P being less than 10% down from all time highs is not a market crash my dude.

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IllegalAlien
02/13/22 3:00:42 PM
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lol? did you only start investing a month ago or...? try googling the DOW and set the chart to 1yr... tell me it's crashing again

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Spiritlittle
02/13/22 3:01:24 PM
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bluezero posted...
Joe Biden controls the stock market?


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Solid Snake07
02/13/22 3:02:56 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
Stock market crashing is affecting the wealthy and the elite. Let it burn.


and, yknow, anyone with a retirement account that has market exposure. Which means basically all of them.

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Bishop9800
02/13/22 3:05:07 PM
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Yuuko-Chan posted...
Not completely but we know how the DNC likes insider trading especially Pelosi


Who's alt is this?

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IllegalAlien
02/13/22 3:06:36 PM
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Yuuko-Chan posted...
Not completely but we know how the DNC likes insider trading especially Pelosi
HAHAHA yeah man, republicans would never do anything like that, they're too good and christian and white right?

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Phantom36
02/13/22 3:06:48 PM
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Sexypwnstar posted...
They already sold and reaped profits...

This. You know they have legal loopholes that effectively legalize insider trading if you're "in the club."

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Paragon21XX
02/13/22 3:18:10 PM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
Stock market crashing is affecting the wealthy and the elite. Let it burn.
It also affects everyone with 401(k)s and other retirement investment accounts (HSAs, IRAs, etc). Are you willing to screw them over, too? Think before you post next time, m'kay?

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Solid Snake07
02/13/22 3:34:38 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
It also affects everyone with 401(k)s and other retirement investment accounts (HSAs, IRAs, etc). Are you willing to screw them over, too? Think before you post next time, m'kay?


obviously its worth burning the vast majority of people if itll put a dent into the net worth of the ultra wealthy who wont really feel that hit at all, right?!

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g980
02/13/22 3:46:04 PM
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Phantom36 posted...


This. You know they have legal loopholes that effectively legalize insider trading if you're "in the club."


how would insider trading help against a market wide crash

do you even care about making sense

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Sackgurl
02/13/22 3:50:29 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
It also affects everyone with 401(k)s and other retirement investment accounts (HSAs, IRAs, etc). Are you willing to screw them over, too? Think before you post next time, m'kay?

what do you think this actually means

do you understand how 401ks work or how a person's risk exposure is supposed to be set up

or are you shitposting

g980 posted...
how would insider trading help against a market wide crash

the argument, however stupid it is, is that they (they = politicians I don't like) knew the crash would come and sold their shares before announcing policies that triggered it

nevermind that selling also requires a buyer

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g980
02/13/22 4:00:01 PM
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Sackgurl posted...


what do you think this actually means

do you understand how 401ks work or how a person's risk exposure is supposed to be set up

or are you shitposting

the argument, however stupid it is, is that they (they = politicians I don't like) knew the crash would come and sold their shares before announcing policies that triggered it

nevermind that selling also requires a buyer


What is your argument that stock market crashes arent bad for people that are pulling from their 401k/ira for income?

And politicians are a small subset of the 'elite' that also cant predict market crashes

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Sackgurl
02/13/22 4:08:18 PM
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g980 posted...
What is your argument that stock market crashes arent bad for people that are pulling from their 401k/ira for income?

the fact that if you're at or near retirement age and not a 35 year old with too much free time, a fiduciary would not have you heavily invested in stocks (definitely no more than 50%, and likely less, so you'd be selling other assets than the temporarily depressed equities)

and the fact that for the past 20-30 years, the benefit of a fiduciary has been available to every person with a 401k who, after realizing they don't know as much as they think, simply put their money in the "target retirement date" funds which automatically rebalance as you approach the age where you'd need to draw down and couldn't respond to volatility like a person our age should: by doing nothing

if you are actively drawing down from your 401k as a primary income stream and you're invested heavily in stocks that you sell to generate that income stream, you're a fucking idiot

also why are you asking me this? you already knew that.

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g980
02/13/22 4:51:23 PM
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Sackgurl posted...


the fact that if you're at or near retirement age and not a 35 year old with too much free time, a fiduciary would not have you heavily invested in stocks (definitely no more than 50%, and likely less, so you'd be selling other assets than the temporarily depressed equities)

and the fact that for the past 20-30 years, the benefit of a fiduciary has been available to every person with a 401k who, after realizing they don't know as much as they think, simply put their money in the "target retirement date" funds which automatically rebalance as you approach the age where you'd need to draw down and couldn't respond to volatility like a person our age should: by doing nothing

<u>if you are actively drawing down from your 401k as a primary income stream and you're invested heavily in stocks that you sell to generate that income stream, you're a fucking idiot</u>

also why are you asking me this? you already knew that.


I wasnt aware you had a crystal ball that could predict how long market downturns would last

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Sackgurl
02/13/22 7:46:02 PM
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g980 posted...
I wasnt aware you had a crystal ball that could predict how long market downturns would last

fiduciaries would tell you that while they have no crystal ball, the longest bear market in american history lasted about two years and a 401k is designed to be drawn down from for a much longer period than two years.

i'll tell you that the current downturn has lasted about two weeks and is part of standard annual volatility; the present drop is less than the drops we had over equivalent time periods in 2021, 2020, 2019, and 2018

so like

@Paragon21XX was being extremely intellectually dishonest and the point of my post was to ridicule the mindset that every twist and turn of the stock market directly impacts people who trade equities approximately once per year

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Sackgurl
02/13/22 7:50:07 PM
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but also

@Pepys_Monster should be slapped in the face with a large trout

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g980
02/13/22 9:10:25 PM
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Sackgurl posted...


fiduciaries would tell you that while they have no crystal ball, the longest bear market in american history lasted about two years and a 401k is designed to be drawn down from for a much longer period than two years.

i'll tell you that the current downturn has lasted about two weeks and is part of standard annual volatility; the present drop is less than the drops we had over equivalent time periods in 2021, 2020, 2019, and 2018

so like

@Paragon21XX was being extremely intellectually dishonest and the point of my post was to ridicule the mindset that every twist and turn of the stock market directly impacts people who trade <u>equities</u> approximately once per year


yea i mean the stock market isnt remotely 'crashing' right now (so far) im talking hypothetically

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muchdran
02/13/22 10:31:04 PM
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Lets be honest, Biden has no idea
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Sackgurl
02/13/22 10:54:14 PM
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g980 posted...
yea i mean the stock market isnt remotely 'crashing' right now (so far) im talking hypothetically
yes, and hypothetically a person with a 401k who is being guided will will not have heavy stock exposure if they're about to have to sell equities to cover lifestyle expenses

yes, some people have badly managed plans--but never because they handed it over to a fiduciary who proceeded to fuck up royally.

this process has been so fully automated that to fuck it up, you have to deliberately decline all opportunities for people more knowledgeable than you to steer it properly, and then deliberately make objectively terrible choices with your asset allocation that a person who knew what they were doing would never make.

hypothetically sure such people exist, and when the stock market inevitably does fluctuate downward, those people are going to suffer, a lot

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