Poll of the Day > Canadian truckers continue their fight against vaccine mandates.

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

I'm laughing at calling it protests.

even when there was crime

The irony that a majority of the violence associated with the BLM came from the same vein of white national accelerationists that drove the "We Dumb Clownvoy"

Gods how I wish the DoJ would make that public.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

according to your definition, they are protesters

The definition of "people who are protesting"? Yes, yes they are. Is that supposed to be some sort of clever "gotcha," or do you genuinely not understand that somebody can be both a protester and a terrorist?

Krazy_Kirby posted...

I'm laughing at calling it protests.

I'm laughing at your ignorance

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MartianManchild posted...

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Sincere question - do you take the conspiracies that he's Castro's son seriously, or is it just fun for the lols to compare them?

KodyKeir posted...

The irony that a majority of the violence associated with the BLM came from the same vein of white national accelerationists that drove the "We Dumb Clownvoy"

Gods how I wish the DoJ would make that public.

If it isn't public then there's no way for you to say that's what happened.

Revelation34 posted...

If it isn't public then there's no way for you to say that's what happened.

It's public enough, (and an open secret in in the LEO and intelligence communities) it's just not in an easy to post link; wait a couple of years (barring the collapse of Western democracy)

ReturnOfFa posted...

Sincere question - do you take the conspiracies that he's Castro's son seriously, or is it just fun for the lols to compare them?

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MartianManchild posted...

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That's a meme, what's your answer to my question?

ReturnOfFa posted...

That's a meme, what's your answer to my question?

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MartianManchild posted...

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So you do believe that Justin Trudeau was fathered by Fidel Castro?

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Maine stream

I like how he thinks really bad facebook memes constitute an argument.

I don't remember that at all, which may or may not have something to do with the fact that it didn't happen and you get your news and opinions from alt-right meme pages as a rather flimsy substitute for developing a personality and world view of your own.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/0/AAb2N0AAC9Mw.jpg Hey look this guy is like adjl where he doesnt know what hes talking about and likes to create his own reality on a situation.

So the New York Times saying that protesters were arrested at gunpoint (which is what's implied by that response) counts as "main stream media [being] 'oddly quiet'" about police violence in response to the protest? Is that what we're supposed to take away from this?

Of course guns are being used. This is a group that's shown they are not above using their vehicles to ram police that try to arrest them. This is a group that's had multiple sub-groups identified that were credibly conspiring to commit mass murder, with police identified as a specific target. The mere presence of guns in the process of arresting a group with a well-documented history of violence does not mean they're being "brutalized," it means the police are being reasonably cautious.

adjl posted...

So the New York Times saying that protesters were arrested at gunpoint (which is what's implied by that response) counts as "main stream media [being] 'oddly quiet'" about police violence in response to the protest? Is that what we're supposed to take away from this?

That guy was claiming they weren't arrested at gunpoint. I don't know what it has to do with the other argument.

Revelation34 posted...

That guy was claiming they weren't arrested at gunpoint. I don't know what it has to do with the other argument.

Presumably, TC struggles to distinguish between "arrested at gunpoint" and "brutalized," but given that he also struggles to distinguish between "the media isn't portraying these brave patriots as innocent heroes standing up against a tyrannical dictatorship" and "the media isn't covering this," that's kind of par for the course.

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MartianManchild posted...

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Oh no? You mean the police were protecting residents from a group of people known to be violent and made sure they lived in the location they were going?

Woe is them.

Jesus, Martian, log off and go find the nearest therapist.

I dunno, I think we might be better off not encouraging him to leave the house.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Oh no? You mean the police were protecting residents from a group of people known to be violent and made sure they lived in the location they were going?

Woe is them.

Specifically, while in the process of clearing out a terrorist occupation. It's kind of a given that that's going to be disruptive, but blaming the police instead of the terrorists for that is absurdly myopic.

MartianManchild posted...

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The camper was empty, but because the windows were papered up Police treated it like a hostile entry while they searched it. They did that with all the vehicles, after they cleared out the occupiers. There was one instance of use of pepper spray, otherwise the police used batons in a defensive position (hands on either end of the baton, held across the chest)

The "trampling" occurred when occupiers threw themselves under the hooves of the horses and started screaming they were being trampled, the horses never touched them and they walked away without injury.

Occupiers set off multiple incendiary devices over the weekend and many more such devices were found on the occupiers.

Currently there are three competing camps south of Ottawa all fighting amongst themselves as the true successor to the occupation.

Tamara Lich was denied bail this morning and will be held until trial.

If you own/drive a truck, you're more than likely an asshole. Glad that convoy continued to prove my theory.

The_tall_midget posted...

If you own/drive a truck, you're more than likely an asshole. Glad that convoy continued to prove my theory.

While I don't entirely disagree with the stereotype (I've met plenty of people that drive trucks that are fine people, but I've also encountered many that are not), the convoy very much was not a random selection, so you can't generalize it like that. It's a given that you're significantly more likely to find assholes in the convoy than in the general population.

KodyKeir posted...

Tamara Lich was denied bail this morning and will be held until trial.

Huh. Undead creatures do exist.

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The Prime Minister can't end Provincial Mandates lmfao.

The amount of unnecessary time these idiots spend on Trudeau seems to betray some sort of obsession.

ReturnOfFa posted...

The Prime Minister can't end Provincial Mandates lmfao.

The catalyst for this whole thing was an update to border policies, which would fall under federal jurisdiction. That said, that's very much not just the PM's decision, and the people acting as though he's solely responsible for both the implementation and the hypothetical removal of such rules have a thing or two to learn about how Parliament works. The expansion to demanding that all mandates be removed country-wide is indeed ignorant of the fact that the PM can't do that, though.

MartianManchild posted...

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Do you really think that basing public health policy off of the opinions of a vocal minority is not only a good idea, but an appropriate way to responds to terrorists that are demanding it?

MartianManchild posted...

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Now, now, adjl said that in one case, it's obviously terrorists and in the other case it's peaceful protesters. And, as we all know, he's not completely and utterly biased and delusional about it due to his nonexistent political biases.

The absolute irony lol

The_tall_midget posted...

Now, now, adjl said that in one case, it's obviously terrorists and in the other case it's peaceful protesters. And, as we all know, he's not completely and utterly biased and delusional about it due to his nonexistent political biases.

If you judge entire protest movements based on images that were cherrypicked to create a meme that unambiguously favours one over the other, sure. If you're a rational person who considers the situation as a whole, less so.

I've said on several occasions that burning down cities for the sake of forcing police reform is also terrorism. The reality of the matter, however, is that 97% of BLM protests were completely peaceful, and in the 3% that weren't, the violence was perpetrated by a relatively tiny handful of the individuals present (of which only a further subset were genuinely protests and not false flag attacks or opportunistic troublemakers looking for a free TV), with everyone else protesting peacefully with no terrorist activity. By contrast, 100% of this protest was intended to cripple the economy to force the government to listen to angry truckers instead of medical professionals in determining public health policy. That has always been the core point, and they have resorted to similar terrorism (blockading borders, torturing citizens) when the protest turned out to not comprise a particularly significant portion of the country's trucking industry and therefore couldn't actually hurt the economy simply by protesting instead of working.

You'll notice I have not described any of the thousands of other anti-vaxx, anti-mask, or otherwise anti-listeningtodoctorsaboutmedicine protests that have been happening across the country for the past two years as terrorism. Stupid? Yes. Creating public health risks for no reason? Yes. But terrorism? No. That's because, as stupid as their protests were, they protested peacefully instead of relying on threats of violence and economic damage to coerce political change. This convoy, however, is comprised of people that are tired of not getting the change they want from peaceful protests and have chosen to escalate to using force. By definition, that makes them terrorists. That's not a matter of political opinion or bias, that's the simple objective reality of the matter.