Current Events > Hasan says media trying to dupe us to get onboard for war with Russia.

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greyfox747
02/17/22 4:42:36 PM
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Ah, he has a BA in poli sci? A true academic

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SpiritSephiroth
02/17/22 4:44:07 PM
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COVxy posted...
My tune is that nobody should be listening to fucking streamers for their views on complex nongaming related topics lol.

By that logic, why are we listening to anyone here, or even you on that matter?

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:47:31 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
By that logic, why are we listening to anyone here, or even you on that matter?

Right?

And what credentials do the people who write the articles we read on major news site have? Or the video you watch on a news channel?

Likely the same as Hasan.

But since they disagree with some of his politics they are invested in smearing him completely.

Sure, he got his foot in the door from nepotism, but that doesn't mean his experience is invalid.
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greyfox747
02/17/22 4:49:47 PM
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Yes, I admit that he was horribly mistaken when he talked about the last time Russia invaded this country, but how dare you judge him because of that! He could never be wrong this time!

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:50:36 PM
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greyfox747 posted...
Yes, I admit that he was horribly mistaken when he talked about the last time Russia invaded this country, but how dare you judge him because of that! He could never be wrong this time!

I said he wrong. Now you are claiming I said he could never be wrong.

Talk about losing credibility.
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Squall28
02/17/22 4:50:45 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
1. You never told me that.
2. I have no idea what news source you go to.
3. I basically search and consume all newsource. I have posted from vox, cnn, fox, abc, npr, whitehouse, random youtubers, twitch, reddit, all sorts of stuff.
4. Business insider, forbes, yahoo, barrons, and on and on

But I guess you prove you are willing to lie about stuff?

You regularly repost stuff from r/antiwork, and very left leaning subreddits. Now you shared something from Hasan. It's so obvious you structured your newsfeed to reinforced these new beliefs.

Just last year or so, I think all you were known as the GME guy. Then you got suckered into wallstreetbets fake class movement, and then spiraled into what you are today. It's sad how common this is, on both sides. You got pretty normal people who go down a rabbit hole until they become weirdos.

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COVxy
02/17/22 4:50:46 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
By that logic, why are we listening to anyone here, or even you on that matter?

I certainly don't claim to be an expert on these matters. I only claim expertise in a narrow set of topics surrounding neuroscience, statistics, and scientific methodology.

Hard to say, however, that this is just the US stirring the pot when there's clear evidence that Putin has gathered troops at the border and continues to escalate his presence.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:52:03 PM
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Squall28 posted...
You regularly repost stuff from r/antiwork, and very left leaning subreddits. Now you shared something from Hasan. It's so obvious you structured your newsfeed to reinforced these new beliefs.

I visit all sorts of reddits.

Funny that I will cite literal articles from even Fox news talking about corporate greed and YOU will deny it.

Kinda weird.
Literally Fox
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SpiritSephiroth
02/17/22 4:53:19 PM
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COVxy posted...
I certainly don't claim to be an expert on these matters. I only claim expertise in a narrow set of topics surrounding neuroscience, statistics, and scientific methodology.

Hard to say, however, that this is just the US stirring the pot when there's clear evidence that Putin has gathered troops at the border and continues to escalate his presence.

And thats certainly a plus. Meaning you can engage with people who don't have an expertise in those departments and they can learn a thing or two.

No matter how complex something is, people tend to have opinions and views on it. I'd like to think its the best way for everyone to learn something from each other.

But then again, this is the internet and I have very little faith in it.

Edit: By internet, I mean social media.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:53:48 PM
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COVxy posted...


Hard to say, however, that this is just the US stirring the pot when there's clear evidence that Putin has gathered troops at the border and continues to escalate his presence.

Well if that is our evidence I can see how Hasan had his conclusion.

I guess I need to repost the image again that no one made a comment about:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/1/AAefUOAAC8Cj.jpg

And to remind everyone, I disagreed with Hasan before I made this thread.

And I can prove it. I can link to you my threads I made a day or so ago.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:55:24 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
And thats certainly a plus. Meaning you can engage with people who don't have an expertise in those departments and they can learn a thing or two.

No matter how complex something is, people tend to have opinions and views on it. I'd like to think its the best way for everyone to learn something from each other.

But then again, this is the internet and I have very little faith in it.

Edit: By internet, I mean social media.


I agree with you.

That is why I still engage with people like squall even though they proven themselves to box themselves into echo chambers and deny deny deny.

I try to not have an echo chamber.

Infact, I have been told to ignore said users but I don't. Why is that?
Why could that be?
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Squall28
02/17/22 4:58:01 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
I agree with you.

That is why I still engage with people like squall even though they proven themselves to box themselves into echo chambers and deny deny deny.

I try to not have an echo chamber.

Infact, I have been told to ignore said users but I don't. Why is that?
Why could that be?

The "no u" defense. Classic.

And it's obvious you got your link to Fox and other sources as reposts from your specially catered subreddits.

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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 4:58:07 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Well if that is our evidence I can see how Hasan had his conclusion.

I guess I need to repost the image again that no one made a comment about:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/1/AAefUOAAC8Cj.jpg

And to remind everyone, I disagreed with Hasan before I made this thread.

And I can prove it. I can link to you my threads I made a day or so ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea
_by_the_Russian_Federation

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 4:59:26 PM
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Squall28 posted...


The "no u" defense. Classic.

And it's obvious you got your link to Fox and other sources as reposts from your specially catered subreddits.

What even is this reply?
You trying to make yourself look bad?

So you admit I posted from Fox.

What news media are you suggesting that I ignore?
Please tell me, I will review it.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 5:01:07 PM
#66:


IndorilGawain posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea
_by_the_Russian_Federation

Yes, but that happened in 2014.

So the question Hasan is basically asking would be, what has changed?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/1/AAefUOAAC8Cj.jpg

Every year this situation has been reported on in a similar fashion since.

I guess the answer is the US intelligence claiming to have got plans for the invasion.
But the US intelligence is also not always honest. Do you disagree with that?
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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 5:03:17 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Yes, but that happened in 2014.

So the question Hasan is basically asking would be, what has changed?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/1/AAefUOAAC8Cj.jpg

Every year this situation has been reported on in a similar fashion since.

I guess the answer is the US intelligence claiming to have got plans for the invasion.
But the US intelligence is also not always honest. Do you disagree with that?
Maybe it's a good idea to be on edge about any military buildup on the border considering that they've just in the past decade invaded and stolen part of Ukraine. Just a thought.

Also there's a big difference between a few thousand and ~150,000

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 5:05:26 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Maybe it's a good idea to be on edge about any military buildup on the border considering that they've just in the past decade invaded and stolen part of Ukraine. Just a thought.

Did anyone argue differently?

The assertion was the news was ramping it up to try and find support for war. I don't think you really need to necessarily report on all this so much to... be on edge and ready militarily.

Like, I don't think they sent troops to Poland because Fox was talking about this.
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IndorilGawain
02/17/22 5:06:40 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
Also there's a big difference between a few thousand and ~150,000
I like how you ignored this part

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 5:10:44 PM
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IndorilGawain posted...
I like how you ignored this part

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Might want to look at the picture again.

They hit those numbers a few years ago
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NoMeLx22x
02/17/22 5:10:49 PM
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Just take Hasan as a decent tool to get people into leftist politics, but remember when it actually comes to discussing deep nuance to some ideas that he can be a bit of an uber reactionary himself.

He's an entertainer before you should take his politics as gospel.

The people who just call him a grifter though are the real lazy ones.

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Squall28
02/17/22 5:12:10 PM
#72:


WingsOfGood posted...
What even is this reply?
You trying to make yourself look bad?

So you admit I posted from Fox.

What news media are you suggesting that I ignore?
Please tell me, I will review it.

I'm suggesting you unsubscribe from politically charged subreddits that cherry picks their content to promote their beliefs. It doesn't matter if you post from Fox news if that particular story was picked specifically to paint the subreddit's narrative.

Don't have a catered news feed. If you're dying for news, go specifically to reuters.com or another neutral site. Don't grab a Reuters link from a left subreddit, and then pretend you're neutral.

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 5:13:44 PM
#73:


Squall28 posted...
I'm suggesting you unsubscribe from politically charged subreddits that cherry picks their content to promote their beliefs. It doesn't matter if you post from Fox news if that particular story was picked specifically to paint the subreddit's narrative.

Don't have a catered news feed. If you're dying for news, go specifically to reuters.com or another neutral site. Don't grab a Reuters link from a left subreddit, and then pretend you're neutral.


So your idea of not living in an echo chamber is to....

purposely remove certain viewpoints???

lmao

btw, they don't share fox link, they share the info and I look it up so I don't look stupid if it turns out to be false
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Sir Will
02/17/22 5:18:09 PM
#74:


WingsOfGood posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Crimean_status_referendum

He talking about this, telling his chat they stupid. Join his chat and bring it up and maybe he talk to you also.
People fled Crimea before the annexation!

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Squall28
02/17/22 5:24:26 PM
#75:


WingsOfGood posted...
So your idea of not living in an echo chamber is to....

purposely remove certain viewpoints???

lmao

btw, they don't share fox link, they share the info and I look it up so I don't look stupid if it turns out to be false

The idea of not being in an echo chamber is not going to echo chambers. But good job of going the Alex Jones route. "They're silencing our viewpoints!"

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 5:26:50 PM
#76:


Squall28 posted...
The idea of not being in an echo chamber is not going to echo chambers.

I spend more time here than reddit.

And you provide opposing viewpoint do you not?

Yet, your contentions usually fall flat.
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Squall28
02/17/22 5:49:16 PM
#77:


WingsOfGood posted...
I spend more time here than reddit.

And you provide opposing viewpoint do you not?

Yet, your contentions usually fall flat.

Your time here is spent reposting stuff you see from your catered newsfeed, and most people here nodding your heads at you. More moderate people like me, don't even bother engaging with you much anymore.

You only got extra engagement here because you're stanning for Russia ffs.


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Delirious_Beard
02/17/22 5:50:37 PM
#78:


hasan is a goddamn idiot

not much else to say

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WingsOfGood
02/17/22 5:51:13 PM
#79:


Squall28 posted...
More moderate people like me,
lmao

Squall28 posted...
Your time here is spent reposting stuff you see from your catered newsfeed, and most people here nodding your heads at you

Not true.

I don't have a newsfeed.
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DEKMStephens
02/17/22 5:56:20 PM
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Has anyone asked Ja Rule yet though?

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