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Southernfatman 02/24/22 9:16:22 AM #52: |
Guerrilla Soldier posted... lol this is why you're not in charge of any important decisions Well you sure changed my mind with that rebuttal. It's not like I want war. I just feel it's inevitable. Ukraine won't appease Putin and the next power hungry Russian oligarch leader that comes after him. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 02/24/22 9:17:08 AM #53: |
$20 says OP is a chickenhawk --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/24/22 9:17:36 AM #54: |
mustachedmystic posted... Well, thats all we can reasonably be expected to do. And fund an insurgence of course, lets just hope they arent religious fundamentalists this time.You mean like they already did in the Orange Revolution? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rayman2943 02/24/22 9:18:58 AM #55: |
Southernfatman posted... Well you sure changed my mind with that rebuttal. It's not like I want war. I just feel it's inevitable. Ukraine won't appease Putin and the next power hungry Russian oligarch leader that comes after him.No you clearly want it. Likely this will crash russia beyond repair. Its a giant gas station on its last legs. --- Cute dog lover ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 02/24/22 9:21:21 AM #56: |
Rayman2943 posted... Likely this will crash russia beyond repair. Its a giant gas station on its last legs.Lol yeah it's about to collapse man Wonder what people will say the next time (read, within a few years at most) Russia attacks one of their neighbors --- https://i.imgur.com/6cPXvLN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hVC4i6j.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 02/24/22 9:21:31 AM #57: |
Rayman2943 posted... No you clearly want it. Likely this will crash russia beyond repair. Its a giant gas station on its last legs. I hope you're right (not counting on it though), but you can still fuck right off for saying I want it. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 02/24/22 9:32:37 AM #58: |
this is fucked, and as long as nukes exist the rest of the world doesn't really have any other options than a sanction. --- Lurker by trade just an idiot passing through ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 02/24/22 9:42:40 AM #59: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/5/AADtjwAAC9rx.jpg --- "With half my brain tied behind my back - just to make it fair." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 02/24/22 9:44:08 AM #60: |
If we do more than impose economically crippling sanctions on Russia and monetarily support the Ukrainian government and people, then we are fools. --- I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShotgunSilencer 02/24/22 10:19:03 AM #61: |
Ok so... Stupid question, but I really do avoid the news and stuff as that shits depressing. But why is Russia doing this. Likes what's so great about Ukraine? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/24/22 10:22:33 AM #62: |
ShotgunSilencer posted... Ok so... Stupid question, but I really do avoid the news and stuff as that shits depressing.They don't want NATO expanding into Ukraine. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master Kazuya 02/24/22 10:23:11 AM #63: |
ShotgunSilencer posted... Ok so... Stupid question, but I really do avoid the news and stuff as that shits depressing. I think it's because Ukraine used to be part of the USSR and Putin wants to rally the band up again --- itt my post is the best ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 02/24/22 10:23:45 AM #64: |
Ukraine is valuable land for Russia to control --- https://i.imgur.com/6cPXvLN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hVC4i6j.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sictis 02/24/22 10:24:37 AM #65: |
ShotgunSilencer posted... Ok so... Stupid question, but I really do avoid the news and stuff as that shits depressing.that pic with all the gaslines running through Ukraine.jpg --- who f***ing cares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/24/22 10:25:01 AM #66: |
ElatedVenusaur posted... If we do more than impose economically crippling sanctions on Russia and monetarily support the Ukrainian government and people, then we are fools. Seems morally bankrupt to remove a country's defenses, promise to defend them, and then not do so, tbh. Many many people will die. And it will be the fault of the US. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsuprised_Pika 02/24/22 10:26:01 AM #67: |
scar the 1 posted... They don't want NATO expanding into Ukraine. I mean yes but the real reason is Putin wants the Soviet Union back. He wants all the old soviet countries back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 02/24/22 10:27:13 AM #68: |
Yeah, good idea TC. We'll send you over as our sole soldier to fight this war. We believe in you. You got this. --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/24/22 10:27:52 AM #69: |
Unsuprised_Pika posted... I mean yes but the real reason is Putin wants the Soviet Union back. He wants all the old soviet countries back.I sincerely doubt that. I think Putin is smarter than that, he knows full well that it's far too expensive of a project and that it's doomed to fail. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsuprised_Pika 02/24/22 10:36:15 AM #70: |
scar the 1 posted... I sincerely doubt that. I think Putin is smarter than that, he knows full well that it's far too expensive of a project and that it's doomed to fail. What he wants and what he will actually do aren't going to be fully aligned because he unfortunately(or fortunately? A fool can sometimes be MORE dangerous then a genius) Isn't stupid. If he thinks he has an opportunity he will take it but yeah I don't think he is going to suddenly try to invade all the old soviet countries right now or anything. But if he can subvert them slowly to his will or set up something like the ukraine situation down the line....or if War broke out between the US/NATO and China he might try then. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 02/24/22 10:38:13 AM #71: |
Russian mostly works through deliberate misinformation campaigns spread online often too far right conspiracy theorists of various countries. They insidiously infuse distrust of non-Putin-friendly authority in the process. --- Razer Blade 15 - Core i7 9750H, RTX 2080 Max-Q, 32 GB DDR4 2666 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FinalBraveNUT 02/24/22 10:47:02 AM #72: |
People like you are what causes ....war. --- FFBE friend ID 958,168,629 Rank 156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 02/24/22 10:49:07 AM #73: |
MutantJohn posted... $20 says OP is a chickenhawk I think if he was in the NFL hed have better things to do than post here --- The world, belongs to you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IndorilGawain 02/24/22 11:10:22 AM #74: |
This topic suuuuuuuucks majorly --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/24/22 11:28:36 AM #75: |
COVxy posted... Seems morally bankrupt to remove a country's defenses, promise to defend them, and then not do so, tbh. Many many people will die. And it will be the fault of the US.Exactly --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 02/24/22 11:32:44 AM #76: |
ShotgunSilencer posted... Ok so... Stupid question, but I really do avoid the news and stuff as that shits depressing. Ukraine was called the breadbasket of Russia(USSR) , currently its called the breadbasket of Europe. They also get more port access and denial of NATO influence. Ukrainian nukes were PAL locked by the Soviets, so it was absolutely useless to everyone but Russia, though US should have done better here. --- Lurker by trade just an idiot passing through ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/24/22 11:33:59 AM #77: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted... really the last thing we need is a fucking war. fucking hell dude...Sounds like the war already started. Now it's whether or not we fight back. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CloudThunder 02/24/22 11:35:05 AM #78: |
you going out there and fight with the troops? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelicRadiance 02/24/22 11:35:20 AM #79: |
America only declares war on brown people for corporate interests --- http://large.horse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sharashaska 02/24/22 11:37:04 AM #80: |
AngelicRadiance posted... America only declares war on brown people for corporate interests --- It's gonna be pee-pee pants city here real soon. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IndorilGawain 02/24/22 11:41:08 AM #81: |
hockeybub89 posted... Sounds like the war already started. Now it's whether or not we fight back."We" have not been attacked. Ukraine is, unfortunately, not yet part of NATO. It is incredibly asinine and immature to suggest that the US enter into a hot war with Russia. There are other ways to support Ukraine short of declaring war on Russia and putting US troops on the ground. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 02/24/22 11:41:50 AM #82: |
Slow down there TC. Its too soon to jump on the war wagon. --- "Everyone, follow me to the shelter. We've got enough food for 14 days. After that, we have a difficult conversation." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReignFury 02/24/22 11:52:13 AM #83: |
Can't go to war with Russia because it would end in nuclear winter. Use your brain TC. --- Sounds about yt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thompson 02/24/22 11:57:35 AM #84: |
I think the war should be made very, very costly for Russia, through sanctions and ostracization, but also by supplying the Ukrainians with weapons. Should the military fall, then it's to supporting an insurgency with training, intel, and materiel. Ukraine should undoubtedly be a poisonous thorn in Russia's side, for as long as necessary, and be as painful as possible. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scamatoru 02/24/22 11:59:23 AM #85: |
war has changed --- nothing to see here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/24/22 12:05:14 PM #86: |
IndorilGawain posted... "We" have not been attacked. Ukraine is, unfortunately, not yet part of NATO. It is incredibly asinine and immature to suggest that the US enter into a hot war with Russia. There are other ways to support Ukraine short of declaring war on Russia and putting US troops on the ground. Just to make this a little more concrete, do any of those other ways prevent loss of life? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 02/24/22 12:05:43 PM #87: |
I'm no war expert but I feel like the US going to war with Russia is a bad idea. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Number090684 02/24/22 12:06:12 PM #88: |
AngelicRadiance posted... America only declares war on brown people for corporate interests ... Copied to Clipboard!
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What_ 02/24/22 12:06:24 PM #89: |
Autocraticus posted... ITT: pretty terrible takesIts basically a whole Lotta idiots that have no idea what theyre talking about ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IndorilGawain 02/24/22 12:07:23 PM #90: |
COVxy posted... Just to make this a little more concrete, do any of those other ways prevent loss of life?Does putting the US military into an active combat role prevent loss of life? My man I've been talking in support of Ukraine for a long time on this board and I'm not someone who believes war is always 100% out of the question (though it should only ever be the last resort), but at this moment in time I don't think there's anything to be gained from direct military action beyond supporting the Ukrainian forces with arms, training, intel, money, whatever we can supply. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/24/22 12:09:39 PM #91: |
IndorilGawain posted... Does putting the US military into an active combat role prevent loss of life? Ukrainian lives? Yes. Just seems like a shit thing to do, to disarm a country, promise them protection, and then bow out when the time comes because it's too risky for us. Like, i'm not saying it's the correct thing to do. But certainly standing aside is immoral as fuck. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IndorilGawain 02/24/22 12:13:34 PM #92: |
COVxy posted... Ukrainian lives? Yes.I agree 100%, I just don't think declaring war on Russia is the answer. What the answer is? I honestly don't know. I don't think sanctions alone will do anything significant unless we go even further than planned. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/24/22 12:49:23 PM #93: |
The US joining the war would not only start WW3, it would be a nuclear conflict. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/24/22 1:23:20 PM #94: |
scar the 1 posted... The US joining the war would not only start WW3, it would be a nuclear conflict.Why is the solution to so much evil in the world "Accept it or otherwise they'll act even shittier"? People are dying and Putin will not stop at Ukraine. This is a global issue which requires a global response. And the US specifically has made Ukraine reliant on them. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/24/22 1:27:44 PM #96: |
hockeybub89 posted... Why is the solution to so much evil in the world "Accept it or otherwise they'll act even shittier"?I agree, the US has led Ukraine on. I'm not sure less people would die if they joined the fighting though, rather the opposite. But it must certainly looks like diplomatic options are gone. It's fucked up and I don't have an answer for how to solve it. I just don't believe US troops would help --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePrinceFish 02/24/22 1:31:12 PM #97: |
Someone call Matt Damon, because Team America has to go save an unrelated country on the other side of the planet, again! --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 02/24/22 1:32:14 PM #98: |
scar the 1 posted... I agree, the US has led Ukraine on. I'm not sure less people would die if they joined the fighting though, rather the opposite. But it must certainly looks like diplomatic options are gone. It's fucked up and I don't have an answer for how to solve it. I just don't believe US troops would help I suppose it depends on how you define help. If you think a soldiers life is a soldiers life, then who knows probably not. But if you think there's anything owed to the Ukrainian people, then the equation is much different. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 02/24/22 1:35:04 PM #99: |
COVxy posted... I suppose it depends on how you define help. If you think a soldiers life is a soldiers life, then who knows probably not.I suppose what I'm saying is that I think US involvement would escalate things and end up killing more innocent people. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlemayor333 02/24/22 1:38:45 PM #100: |
Weird investment to spend trillions on a military that can't do anything --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/24/22 1:59:32 PM #101: |
Turtlemayor333 posted... Weird investment to spend trillions on a military that can't do anythingIt's very weird, I agree. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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