Current Events > C/D: What Anise does in Tales of the Abyss is way worse than what Luke does.

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Scintillant
02/26/22 5:56:33 PM
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Confirm.

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Ving_Rhames
02/26/22 5:58:19 PM
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Confirm.

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a-c-a-b
02/26/22 6:12:05 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

One of the worst characters in the franchise.

Great game otherwise though.

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Scintillant
02/26/22 7:07:41 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

If you only thought she was annoying then you probably didn't reach the event I'm referring to.

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Ving_Rhames
02/26/22 7:22:10 PM
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Hell there's a reason she gets a nickname in the fandom for what she does and Luke doesn't.

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GrandCross6
02/26/22 7:27:23 PM
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yes

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Scintillant
02/26/22 7:54:27 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Hell there's a reason she gets a nickname in the fandom for what she does and Luke doesn't.
wait what's the nickname, I'm curious, lol

@Ving_Rhames

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It's an amazing game. The story is top notch and Luke is a great protagonist.

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Ving_Rhames
02/26/22 7:57:06 PM
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Murdernise

And I'm glad people have turned around on Luke in recent years. He used to be universally hated despite being one of the few Tales protags (or Tales characters period really) to have actual character development.

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Veggeta_MAX
02/26/22 7:58:12 PM
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Luke has the most character development at the very least in any Tales games. I like him a lot as well.

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Veggeta_MAX
02/26/22 7:59:57 PM
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Also did we forget......

Her parents were taken hostages from Mohs so she had to become the spy

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Garioshi
02/26/22 8:00:10 PM
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Luke my beloved

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Wedge Antilles
02/26/22 8:02:53 PM
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Luke is one of my favourite characters and probably has some of the best development in gaming period.

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Veggeta_MAX
02/26/22 8:05:40 PM
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The twist got me fucked up too. Didn't see it coming at all and I honestly didn't know how to feel about Luke afterwards. Guy is also an awesome character and friend.

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yusiko
02/26/22 8:08:05 PM
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Deny
Her reasons for doing what she did were justified

No reason to hold it against her other than sexism especially since other tales of series traitors who have less justification than anise did don't get the same vitriol aimed at them

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Delirious_Beard
02/26/22 8:34:05 PM
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she's terrible

Arietta should have won

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FridgeBeard
02/26/22 8:41:58 PM
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Half the party is worse than Luke.

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Veggeta_MAX
02/26/22 8:46:03 PM
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Lmao damn y'all would not like ToV characters if y'all think Tota is bad.

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Scintillant
02/26/22 11:13:04 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Murdernise

And I'm glad people have turned around on Luke in recent years. He used to be universally hated despite being one of the few Tales protags (or Tales characters period really) to have actual character development.
I've never understood the hate for Luke tbh (in game or otherwise)

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Scintillant
02/26/22 11:17:17 PM
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yusiko posted...
Deny
Her reasons for doing what she did were justified

No reason to hold it against her other than sexism especially since other tales of series traitors who have less justification than anise did don't get the same vitriol aimed at them
It's not what Anise did necessarily for me, it's that she literally acts like such a dick towards Luke even though what Luke "did" wasn't even his fault.

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VitalGetPrank
02/26/22 11:20:10 PM
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It's been awhile since I beat the game, what did she do?

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Hoodroar
02/26/22 11:30:11 PM
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yusiko posted...
Deny
Her reasons for doing what she did were justified

No reason to hold it against her other than sexism especially since other tales of series traitors who have less justification than anise did don't get the same vitriol aimed at them

How often do these betrayals actually result in the loss of innocent life? Usually it's just the dude pulling an edgy backstab before failing to accomplish anything and getting his ass kicked. Intent vs. results.

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Veggeta_MAX
02/26/22 11:53:37 PM
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Scintillant posted...
It's not what Anise did necessarily for me, it's that she literally acts like such a dick towards Luke even though what Luke "did" wasn't even his fault.
I mean they all did. Why give Anise the exclusive hate?

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kelemvor
02/26/22 11:59:03 PM
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I can't wait for a new "remaster" of Abyss so I can play through it again.

The only fault I can think of is how much "fluff" or "padding" the game has which results in a lot of backtracking and slows the pace of the story.

However, I still think it's my favorite Tales game. I love how even the protagonist God Generals get plenty of back story. The combat system is great, too.
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Scintillant
02/26/22 11:59:10 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I mean they all did. Why give Anise the exclusive hate?
Because relative to what Luke did I think what she did was worse?

It's just the topic title

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Veggeta_MAX
02/27/22 12:02:34 AM
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I'm not understanding you. You're saying what Anise did, which was being a spy to the group, was worst than what Luke did to the group and yet you're now saying her treatment towards Luke was the main reason to hate her.

Are you saying she has no room to hate Luke?

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Scintillant
02/27/22 12:07:44 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm not understanding you. You're saying what Anise did, which was being a spy to the group, was worst than what Luke did to the group and yet you're now saying her treatment towards Luke was the main reason to hate her.

Are you saying she has no room to hate Luke?

Yes. The only thing Luke did wrong was be naive. He was coerced into the choices he made by someone no one gave him a reason to not trust.

Anise actively betrayed the group. I think her getting upset at Luke is a bit hypocritical, but I don't think anyone in the group should have been upset at Luke to begin with.

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foxhound101
02/27/22 12:49:38 AM
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It's been a looooong time since I played the game. But I have a strong memory of thinking the game was annoying to play...because more than half of the characters were annoying. It's one of the few games I kept hoping characters would be killed off. Everyone was an unhelpful hypocrite when it came to Luke.

The only characters I liked were Jade and Guy. Luke became tolerable as he developed. Anise...might have been the worst one >_>

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