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Zlla- 02/28/22 3:58:14 PM #1: |
In a rich country like USA you have the best possible option to implement a great tax funded healthcare system. Having a serious and sufficient public alternative would put pressure on the private alternatives to offer something better. This is a common model in most developed countries. You get a good public healthcare but you also have a private fast lane alternative. It makes no sense. Here's my experience with a hospital stay visit: I was forcibly sent to a mental hospital for SI. A cop came knocking on my door after I expressed on a discord chat that life was not worth living anymore. He forced me to get into the cop car and I had to spend 1 day at the mental hospital. It wasn't a 72 hour hold, as I explained to the doctor that I am no way suicidal; I just have a very nihilistic POV. Had to call my mother, family to speak with the doctor inorder convince him that I was not suicidal in anyway. After a threat of litigation; I was finally released only to discover months after that my hospital bill was 13k!!!! (They did a couple EKG scans, made me piss test, and fed me low grade tuna sandwiches). All that for 13k? Ridiculous. It makes no effin sense and I wish someone here would help me better understand why our healthcare system is so expensive? It just brings a further gap between wealth inequality for those that are uninsured--making them further in debt for a life emergency? This leads me to believe insurance companies and US hospitals are a crime syndicate hiding underneath the disguise of a noble entity. Somebody please help me make sense of this. I'm so frustrated that I can't help but cry at the helplessness of the situation. I really feel for those that have no insurance and barely living paycheck to paycheck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 02/28/22 3:59:06 PM #2: |
Because the American government let itself be compromised by rich and greedy corporations. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Keith_Valentine 02/28/22 4:01:06 PM #3: |
Did you file your Medicaid paperwork? Insurance companies are absolutely fucking people over. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/28/22 4:01:21 PM #4: |
because in America the people in charge value profits more than people --- Playing: Dead Cells; Undertale I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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David1988 02/28/22 4:02:38 PM #5: |
As someone with a chronic illness that have consistently gone to hospitals for decades, Ive found the bills dont mean much. I must have hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt, never paid a cent, the hospital still sees me. Though granted I had insurance that pays 80% of the bill, the debt comes from the remaining 20%, which still adds up to hundreds of thousands. Maybe it wouldve been different if I had no insurance, but I have never been denied treatment for not paying --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 4:21:05 PM #6: |
David1988 posted... As someone with a chronic illness that have consistently gone to hospitals for decades, Ive found the bills dont mean much. I must have hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt, never paid a cent, the hospital still sees me. Though granted I had insurance that pays 80% of the bill, the debt comes from the remaining 20%, which still adds up to hundreds of thousands. Maybe it wouldve been different if I had no insurance, but I have never been denied treatment for not payingHave you been reported to collections? What happens if one of my family member gets hospitalized and ends up dying (god forbid) but they have no insurance? Will the debt clear or will it get passed on to the next of KIN? It's so infuriating. I worry about this kind of stuff and gives me so much anxiety. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MixedRaceBaby 02/28/22 4:21:54 PM #7: |
because i dont want to pay for someone else's surgery! i want to pay for someone elses surgery, but also the profits of the insurance companies that sets the prices. its a win win --- For the mixed race babies! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 02/28/22 4:23:40 PM #8: |
Zlla- posted... Have you been reported to collections? What happens if one of my family member gets hospitalized and ends up dying (god forbid) but they have no insurance? Will the debt clear or will it get passed on to the next of KIN? It's so infuriating. I worry about this kind of stuff and gives me so much anxiety.Excluding marriage or co-signing, I dont believe there exists transferable debt. Any time you hear about that, its shitty loan collection people trying to bully people into signing for debt that isnt their responsibility. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Naysaspace 02/28/22 4:24:11 PM #9: |
because most humans don't have the self control to not succumb to greed. And, unfortunately, this includes top executives and politicians --- https://i.imgur.com/XQlpQEo.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 02/28/22 4:24:25 PM #10: |
Because "fuck you commie" or "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" seems to be what it boils down to from my perspective as an outsider. --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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David1988 02/28/22 4:27:25 PM #11: |
Zlla- posted... Have you been reported to collections? What happens if one of my family member gets hospitalized and ends up dying (god forbid) but they have no insurance? Will the debt clear or will it get passed on to the next of KIN? It's so infuriating. I worry about this kind of stuff and gives me so much anxiety. I think its up to the hospital, most hospitals dont report for collections. In all my years going to the hospital Ive only ever got reported to collections once for my transplant, and even that has gone off my credit score because its been 7 years. I dont know if it passes onto next of kin though --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 02/28/22 4:41:27 PM #12: |
I got stuck in the hospital for 4 days after my appendectomy, cost me nothing outside of what I had to pay for the antibiotics I had to take at home for a few days after finally getting to go home. Can't imagine what it would've cost in the US. --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 02/28/22 5:02:00 PM #13: |
I'm confused here, you were involuntarily commited based on something you said online? How did they know who you are, or where you live? --- Vegy is a 30 year old man, who's pretending to be a 60 year old woman that likes to act like a 57 year old man that pretends to be a horny 16 year old boy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FurryPhilosifer 02/28/22 5:04:16 PM #14: |
I went to the hospital last month with severe abdominal pain. Got kept in overnight, some antibiotics, some morphine. And didn't cost me a penny. --- Ghosts are cool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 02/28/22 5:04:57 PM #15: |
Do you not have health insurance TC? --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 5:23:46 PM #16: |
mustachedmystic posted... I'm confused here, you were involuntarily commited based on something you said online? How did they know who you are, or where you live?Apparently someone from a different state reported it to the police. That state then pinged the IP and reported me to a local cop who came banging on my door. Next time I'll use a VPN when I go off on a diatribe on a discord chat. AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Do you not have health insurance TC?Not the good kind. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 02/28/22 5:28:36 PM #17: |
Zlla- posted... Apparently someone from a different state reported it to the police. That state then pinged the IP and reported me to a local cop who came banging on my door. Next time I'll use a VPN when I go off on a diatribe on a discord chat.I don't know whether to be upset, or happy that the state would go through the trouble to to track someone down because a person reported that they suspect someone online might be suicidal. --- Vegy is a 30 year old man, who's pretending to be a 60 year old woman that likes to act like a 57 year old man that pretends to be a horny 16 year old boy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Woodger 02/28/22 5:31:49 PM #18: |
That's ridiculous, you could get a 5 star luxury hotel for 1/20th of that. I wonder how much it actually costs them, and how much is profit? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 5:37:44 PM #19: |
mustachedmystic posted... I don't know whether to be upset, or happy that the state would go through the trouble to to track someone down because a person reported that they suspect someone online might be suicidal.Right? I'd be conflicted too. Why waste your time on some guy trying to blow off steam on an anonymous chat server, when there are more serious things that require immediate attention happening around the country. My suspicious thought process leads me to believe, this is some conspiracy to gain further profit by committing people into mental hospitals. Hospitals win, insurance companies win, the cop that reported probably gets some type of positive recognition, and the only people left holding the negative bag are those that are poorly uninsured living a life of basic means. The US is just one big humanitarian crises ready to implode in the next 100 years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 02/28/22 5:47:05 PM #20: |
Zlla- posted... Right? I'd be conflicted too. Why waste your time on some guy trying to blow off steam on an anonymous chat server, when there are more serious things that require immediate attention happening around the country. My suspicious thought process leads me to believe, this is some conspiracy to gain further profit by committing people into mental hospitals. Hospitals win, insurance companies win, the cop that reported probably gets some type of positive recognition, and the only people left holding the negative bag are those that are poorly uninsured living a life of basic means. The US is just one big humanitarian crises ready to implode in the next 100 years. About 50,000 people die in the US every year from suicide, over a million people attempt it every year. Suicide prevention is taken very serious, better to investigate warning signs instead of ignore them. Or you can go the Alex Jones route and believe the whole system is conspiring against you --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AltyMcAltface 02/28/22 5:47:45 PM #21: |
cuz that's what FREEDUMB looks like --- "Altenticity is invaluable. Originality is warned/suspended." - Derp Darmusch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 02/28/22 5:52:16 PM #22: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted... About 50,000 people die in the US every year from suicide, over a million people attempt it every year. Suicide prevention is taken very serious, better to investigate warning signs instead of ignore them.You make a good point, but I don't know if I want the state to track down everyone that says "life sucks" online. --- Vegy is a 30 year old man, who's pretending to be a 60 year old woman that likes to act like a 57 year old man that pretends to be a horny 16 year old boy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 02/28/22 5:55:42 PM #23: |
America is very culturally against taxes for one thing. Most people distill the revolutionary war down to "they hated taxes". For another, America can't even finish construction on large parts of the Interstate to the point that no matter what state you live in, you can probably think of one that is perpetually having work done. To say nothing of the local roads. If someone can't trust the government to build a road right, why would they trust them to do surgery? Finally, look up how much med school costs. If the doctors weren't making bank to pay the loans off, why would they do it at all? "I wanna help people" is well and good, but most people wouldn't want to go into crippling debt to do it. America has a litany of issues that need fixing before they can consider tax funded health care. Education is the biggest one. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 5:57:08 PM #24: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted... About 50,000 people die in the US every year from suicide, over a million people attempt it every year. Suicide prevention is taken very serious, better to investigate warning signs instead of ignore them.From a sociological perspective, if there's something wrong with our country, suicide and criminality is a response to that. Instead of investigating warning signs, find a solution to the root of the problem; change the country's corrupt policies and make it easier for everyone to live where wealth disparities are minimal and racial and gender quality are encouraged as norms. It makes me pretty sad. The world shouldn't be like this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HBOSS 02/28/22 5:57:28 PM #25: |
Went to ER and admitted for3 days. They had to transfer me and i had to be re-tested. Got a bill for $30k --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 02/28/22 5:58:56 PM #26: |
You should give the bill to whoever it was who narcd on you. --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/28/22 6:01:34 PM #27: |
CVS: *buys Aetna* also CVS: *offers employees high-deductible plans worse than a number of other employers that use Aetna* Fuck health insurance. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 02/28/22 6:02:10 PM #28: |
Because a significant part of that $13k goes into a very rich man's pocket, and he is allowed to give as much of that as he wants to the people who decide whether or not healthcare stays privatized or not. AngelsNAirwav3s posted... About 50,000 people die in the US every year from suicide, over a million people attempt it every year.Exactly, and if you can get even a quarter of those people to pony up the $13k, well my friend you've got yourself a multi-billion dollar industry. AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Suicide prevention is taken very serious, better to investigate warning signs instead of ignore them.Right, no sense in letting people die for nothing, when there's money to be made in keeping them alive. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 6:11:14 PM #29: |
MrToothHasYou posted... Because a significant part of that $13k goes into a very rich man's pocket, and he is allowed to give as much of that as he wants to the people who decide whether or not healthcare stays privatized or not.The very rich man that uses that profit to lobby politicians into making policies favorable for them and not for the people? So the very rich man wins, politicians get their wallets fat, and WE the hard working middle class/lower class has to suffer? Effen pinkberry dingus effed up #JJGLIDH#LO#H@I (sorry slammed keyboard). Addendum: Seriously who needs to make more money than they can spend? US should put a cap on how much money privatized companies can make. The rest should then go to taxes. That should incentivize people to stop being greedy and hoard billions dollars of wealth. Do you really need to be a billionaire? You can live a life pretty comfortably just being a millionaire. Owning 10 mansions, 5 super cars, and a hoard of escorts is just reeks of plain ol' narcissism used as some kind of dick measuring tool. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlCalavicci 02/28/22 6:18:56 PM #30: |
Sorry you had to go through that TC --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 6:26:24 PM #31: |
AlCalavicci posted... Sorry you had to go through that TCDon't be sorry for me, it just sounds patronizing. Be sorry for the people that are going through similar feelings without much of a support system. I can't help but feel most sympathetic for the hardworking single mother that works 3 jobs but can't afford to pay her hospital deductibles because she has shitty insurance. There are so many friggen Americans that are going through a similar crisis with no solution to their problems. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AlCalavicci 02/28/22 7:05:50 PM #32: |
Zlla- posted... Don't be sorry for me, it just sounds patronizing. Be sorry for the people that are going through similar feelings without much of a support system. I can't help but feel most sympathetic for the hardworking single mother that works 3 jobs but can't afford to pay her hospital deductibles because she has shitty insurance. There are so many friggen Americans that are going through a similar crisis with no solution to their problems. You can just take the empathy from another human being without typing all this out --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 7:23:15 PM #33: |
AlCalavicci posted... You can just take the empathy from another human being without typing all this outDonate $10 to a homeless person and we're good. Make sure that beggar doesn't buy drug money with that $10 too. Do your part and I shall do mine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/28/22 7:30:04 PM #34: |
Solar_Crimson posted... Because the American government let itself be compromised by rich and greedy corporations. And nearly half the population literally think the idea of universal healthcare is blasphemy because they're literally that stupid and indoctrinated by republican ideology. --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 02/28/22 7:37:52 PM #35: |
because republicans exist they are evil incarnate we would have everything if not for them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/28/22 7:42:16 PM #36: |
CADE FOSTER posted... b'awwwwww --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 02/28/22 7:44:25 PM #37: |
who posted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/28/22 7:45:06 PM #38: |
That doesnt work when you're crying in response to my post in the first place buds. --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 02/28/22 7:47:34 PM #39: |
Capitalism and greed. --- Doom, the game with unlimited ways to play. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JimRob 02/28/22 7:49:21 PM #40: |
It's one of the few lame aspects about America --- https://youtu.be/PI97h6zo1dg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CanuckCowboy 02/28/22 7:51:25 PM #41: |
Cheater87 posted... Capitalism and greed. Plenty of capitalist countries have universal healthcare. Part of the problem is that so many americans equate healthcare to full on socialism. --- "I've got a plan so cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a weasel." https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sczoyd 02/28/22 7:53:04 PM #42: |
CanuckCowboy posted... Solar_Crimson posted... These^ Of course it's not getting done with a majority of Democrats either. We basically need to get rid of all Republicans because they do nothing but serve the greedy rich, and then we need to clean out the Democrats who have sold out too. --- "No merkins? Fie on thee." - zhukov1943 WoT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zlla- 02/28/22 7:55:52 PM #43: |
CanuckCowboy posted... And nearly half the population literally think the idea of universal healthcare is blasphemy because they're literally that stupid and indoctrinated by republican ideology.The republican ideology shouldn't exist. In fact political ideologies should be based on absolute theories of morality; not some half assed doctrine, some deluded prick decided to make up inorder to further his egocentric narrative. America should be based on some utilitarian concept. But then everybody (just the extremely ignorant ones) will say "oh no that's socialism! It's so bad!", without giving much critical thought. I swear, I think every American should be evaluated before they have babies. Stupid people reproduce stupid babies. Smart people don't have babies; they just commit suicide *dark laugh* ha...ha...ha... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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