Current Events > Biden has had some fuck ups, but he's handled Russia/Ukraine quite well

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After his botched evacuation from Afghanistan (which, to be fair, would have been bad whomever the sitting president was), he probably just guaranteed his re-election in 2024.

And the fact the republican party is shit and they don't have a single likable candidate.

This doesnt mean you should vote for him.

Putin would be doing the exact same thing if Biden just completely ignored the situation.

ProudlyHated87 posted...

This doesnt mean you should vote for him.

I will never consider voting for a republican after Trump destroyed that party.

Mitt Romney is the only tolerable one left and even he's terrible.

Straight blue all day, every day, until I die now.

BilalPowell posted...

Putin would be doing the exact same thing if Biden just completely ignored the situation.

Well yes, because he's mentally unhinged but Trump would have probably encouraged Ukraine to surrender and assimilate with Russia.

Voters have trouble remembering things that happened a couple months before election day, let alone nearly three years.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Voters have trouble remembering things that happened a couple months before election day, let alone nearly three years.

Which will also help Biden when the economic impacts of Russia/Ukraine wear off.

Spiritlittle posted...

I will never consider voting for a republican after Trump destroyed that party.

Mitt Romney is the only tolerable one left and even he's terrible.

Straight blue all day, every day, until I die now.

I can understand not liking Trump, but at the end of the day policy is all that matters.

ProudlyHated87 posted...

I can understand not liking Trump, but at the end of the day policy is all that matters.

Trump's policies were bad, is the thing.

ProudlyHated87 posted...

I can understand not liking Trump, but at the end of the day policy is all that matters.

And I also don't agree with or support a single thing on the republican platform.

The republican party died when John McCain lost to Obama.

Spiritlittle posted...

I will never consider voting for a republican after Trump destroyed that party.

Mitt Romney is the only tolerable one left and even he's terrible.

Straight blue all day, every day, until I die now.

Same

Spiritlittle posted...

The republican party died when John McCain lost to Obama.

Could not agree with this more. If you go back to some of the videos on youtube, the amount of respect the 2 of those candidates showed to each other during their rallies and their debates makes the current presidential races look like screaming children.

Spiritlittle posted...

The republican party died when John McCain lost to Obama.

I'm going to push back on this by asking you to consider why John McCain lost.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Voters have trouble remembering things that happened a couple months before election day, let alone nearly three years.

Yeah. What's happening in the world now isn't nearly as impactful as what will be happening in late 2023-2024.

For all his faults, if it wasn't for covid, Trump probably would've got re-elected. Most of the country was making money hand over fist, Dow was continuing to climb, and unemployment was continuing to fall.

Trump terrible handing of covid, from basically starting as a denier to just playing the "it not my fault, but I'll take all the praise for the vaccine", to it killing the economy, covid beat Trump more than anything Biden said or did during their election campaigns.

Spiritlittle posted...

Straight blue all day, every day, until I die now.

Do you HATE anyone on the other side? Like "cancer of society, cannot be allowed to function going forward" levels of disdain?

bigblu89 posted...

Yeah. What's happening in the world now isn't nearly as impactful as what will be happening in late 2023-2024.

For all his faults, if it wasn't for covid, Trump probably would've got re-elected. Most of the country was making money hand over fist, Dow was continuing to climb, and unemployment was continuing to fall.

Trump terrible handing of covid, from basically starting as a denier to just playing the "it not my fault, but I'll take all the praise for the vaccine", to it killing the economy, covid beat Trump more than anything Biden said or did during their election campaigns.

None (more or less) of the economic prosperity that existed pre-COVID was due to Trumps policies. All of the upward trends were carried over from Obamas presidency.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

ProudlyHated87 posted...

This doesnt mean you should vote for him.

Given the current poll of Republicans, voting for Biden is the only smart choice (or least stupid one).

Solar_Crimson posted...

Given the current poll of Republicans, voting for Biden is the only smart choice (or least stupid one).

The REAL problem is the two-party system is in shambles and has basically turned into big business for politics.

I'm sorry, but what, exactly, has Joe Biden done about the Ukrain/Russia situation? He's handed down sanctions that haven't even taken place yet, and we're still buying oil from Russia.

And if you want to bring up the Javelins, Trump sold them the Javelines in 2018.
Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898

I agree. Even if the Afghanistan removal could have been handled better, it would not had been good for anyone in charge so I dont blame him for it. Trump set him up to fail on that account.

Caution999 posted...

I'm sorry, but what, exactly, has Joe Biden done about the Ukrain/Russia situation? He's handed down sanctions that haven't even taken place yet, and we're still buying oil from Russia.

And if you want to bring up the Javelins, Trump sold them the Javelines in 2018.
Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898

It hasnt even been a week since he announced sanctions and his influence around the world is causing sanctions all over for Russia.

bigblu89 posted...

For all his faults, if it wasn't for covid, Trump probably would've got re-elected

My guess is that, if anything, covid helped Trump.

bigblu89 posted...

For all his faults, if it wasn't for covid, Trump probably would've got re-elected. Most of the country was making money hand over fist, Dow was continuing to climb, and unemployment was continuing to fall.

The Dow is higher now then it has been under Donnie. Unemployment is back to around pre-covid days.

Caution999 posted...

I'm sorry, but what, exactly, has Joe Biden done about the Ukrain/Russia situation? He's handed down sanctions that haven't even taken place yet, and we're still buying oil from Russia.

And if you want to bring up the Javelins, Trump sold them the Javelines in 2018.
Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898

Member when he witheld miltary aide in an attempt to blackmail Zalensky into helping him cheat in the 2020 election... and then the GOP said "lolol, that's our boy!" and let him get away with it?