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MarthGoomba 04/05/22 12:25:55 PM #1: |
But I missed a significant section of an area on my first character because I didn't know I was SUPPOSED to lose to a generic enemy (that is never even worth fighting) in a specific way to access the centre of Volcano Manor. I had to look up a guide because I was getting frustrated trying to figure out how the FUCK I'm supposed to get to this stupid place on my second character How the hell is anyone supposed to figure that shit out without a guide? --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:26:54 PM #2: |
thanks for explaining further --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Butterfiles 04/05/22 12:27:04 PM #3: |
Ah see, but this is immersion. Or something --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun CEO of Antifa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:29:42 PM #4: |
Abductor Virgins can be found in Volcano Manor. To get there, you need to be abducted by the virgin at the bottom of Raya Lucaria Academy. Let it grab you and take you inside it. holy fucking shit this game doesn't stop --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 04/05/22 12:30:09 PM #5: |
Do not question Miyazaki-san's vision! --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:30:21 PM #6: |
Can't you just walk to the volcano manor? Also pretty sure patches tells you what to do to trigger the event --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:30:41 PM #7: |
i mean this is mindblowingly stupid, but this is why i never started new game+ i guess i'll do this and see what they drop... --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 04/05/22 12:31:36 PM #8: |
Or you can just walk there lol --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:32:00 PM #9: |
viewmaster_pi posted... holy fucking shit this game doesn't stopOh then yeah patches tells you to let an iron virgin at the bottom of raya Lucario waterfall capture you --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:32:33 PM #10: |
darkprince45 posted... Or you can just walk there lolunique area, unique boss fight, unique bonfire, unique drop so these cute remarks aren't gonna fly --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 04/05/22 12:32:44 PM #11: |
Patches tells you to do it. Also, it's like a two minute cave with iirc a talisman and some bats in it and a shitty double enemy boss figut. I wouldnt say it's significant. It dumps you out in a very easily accessible area. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:33:05 PM #12: |
viewmaster_pi posted... unique area, unique boss fight, unique bonfire, unique drop Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Oh then yeah patches tells you to let an iron virgin at the bottom of raya Lucario waterfall capture you --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:34:00 PM #13: |
and i mean god damn, like clockwork you guys are trying to rationalize or justify it. it's fucking stupid --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 04/05/22 12:34:08 PM #14: |
If that was a secret in a different game like Zelda, people would talk about how cool it is and how much detail is in the game, but because it's in a FromSoft game it's obscurist bullshit. What's the point of secrets if they're all made obvious and trivial? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:34:17 PM #15: |
viewmaster_pi posted... and i mean god damn, like clockwork you guys are trying to rationalize or justify it. it's fucking stupid Jiek_Fafn posted... Patches tells you to do it. --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 04/05/22 12:34:39 PM #16: |
keyword is "patches" --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 04/05/22 12:35:01 PM #17: |
FromSoftware fanboys be like "ugh the NPC told you what to do, didn't you read the dialogue?" The dialogue: "ehueeuueue, the dark is weary on the eyes, for a wanderer is lost in the bleak..." --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:35:29 PM #18: |
Jiek_Fafn posted... Patches tells you to do it.never told me, because i didn't even meet patches until after i reached the manor via Rya or whoever. --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:35:45 PM #19: |
HylianFox posted... keyword is "patches"And? I did it after spending runes. Worst case is I leave a few thousand runes down there if it's a lie --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:35:47 PM #20: |
pinky0926 posted... FromSoftware fanboys be like "ugh the NPC told you what to do, didn't you read the dialogue?"lol --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:36:40 PM #21: |
pinky0926 posted... Not in this case. It's very explicit. Even I could understand it --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 04/05/22 12:36:48 PM #22: |
It's not just Elden Ring I fucking hate it in games where you have to do something no skilled or savvy player would ever do. It's obnoxious. Like "Oh, you mean I was SUPPOSED to jump through the acid waterfall without any clothes on?" or some counter-intuitive shit --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 04/05/22 12:37:31 PM #23: |
this is like in Crash 3 when you had to let a pterodactyl kill you to get to the color gem path --- It's your turn, beloved. It's your flesh I wear ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 04/05/22 12:38:50 PM #24: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... patches tells you I always kill patches and wouldn't believe him anyway Jiek_Fafn posted... Also, it's like a two minute cave with iirc a talisman and some bats in it and a shitty double enemy boss figut. I wouldnt say it's significant. It dumps you out in a very easily accessible area. This isn't an "easily accessible area" because I missed it on my first playthrough, and I was VERY thorough in exploring everything. The only places I did on Mt Gelmir was the outer perimeter and the tiny manor itself, which were just boring kill quests that lead to a boring gimmick boss --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 04/05/22 12:38:53 PM #25: |
pinky0926 posted... FromSoftware fanboys be like "ugh the NPC told you what to do, didn't you read the dialogue?"No he literally tells you to do. He doesn't fluff the words --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 12:39:38 PM #26: |
MarthGoomba posted... I always kill patches and wouldn't believe him anywayYou're free to play the game your way --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 04/05/22 12:40:08 PM #27: |
Patches is pretty clear on this one --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 04/05/22 12:40:27 PM #28: |
This happened to me by complete accident If you try to fight these things in Raye lucaria, it'll happen. You don't need to do anything more than not run from them --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 04/05/22 12:47:50 PM #29: |
Of all the legitimate complaints about Elden Ring being obtuse, this one feels a bit forced --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fluttershy 04/05/22 12:48:00 PM #30: |
who the hell kills patches? --- https://i.imgur.com/a7zbPmp.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 04/05/22 12:48:16 PM #31: |
I never encountered Patches. Had to look him up just now to know wtf you guys were talking about. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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krazychao5 04/05/22 12:51:15 PM #32: |
itachi15243 posted... This happened to me by complete accidenti learned they transport you after i fought very hard to kill it. i was like, whew good thing i didn't get transported after reading the walkthrough after beating the dungeon --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/bigllama?type=posted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 04/05/22 12:51:36 PM #33: |
Aren't there enemies in all Soulslike games that you have to basically get fucked up by and they drag you to a new area? That shit happened in Bloodborne too. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 04/05/22 12:53:50 PM #34: |
Smashingpmkns posted... Aren't there enemies in all Soulslike games that you have to basically get fucked up by and they drag you to a new area? That shit happened in Bloodborne too. Yeah, typically. Demon souls had the bag guys --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 04/05/22 12:54:57 PM #35: |
MarthGoomba posted... I always kill patches and wouldn't believe him anywaySounds like a you problem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frostshock 04/05/22 12:55:01 PM #36: |
There is nothing of value missed by not knowing about the shortcut. It's a shortcut to Volcano Manor, but if you're already there normally you can still explore the entire dungeon. --- Got questions about schoolwork? Want to share answers, or discuss your studies? Come to Homework Helpers! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 04/05/22 12:58:06 PM #38: |
Frostshock posted... There is nothing of value missed by not knowing about the shortcut. It's a shortcut to Volcano Manor, but if you're already there normally you can still explore the entire dungeon. This is a very, very large area. It is most certainly something of value and not a shortcut to the manor. The shortcut is having Rya take you there directly. The other path is on the outside of the mountain, not through the lava place, if you missed Rya. --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fluttershy 04/05/22 12:59:20 PM #39: |
I didn't even know Patches could be interacted with because I just went to some cave and he was the boss there and I kicked his ass and never saw him again >_> so halfway through when he started asking you not to kill him, uhhhh --- https://i.imgur.com/a7zbPmp.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 04/05/22 12:59:59 PM #40: |
Fluttershy posted... so halfway through when he started asking you not to kill him, uhhhh That's when you kill him harder because it's a trick to let your guard down --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 04/05/22 1:01:27 PM #41: |
I feel like if you start killing NPCs, then complaints about how the were no clues in the game kinda fall over --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 04/05/22 1:04:28 PM #42: |
*game literally tells you exactly how to get to a secret area* "Man this game is too full of obscure stuff, how would anyone know that" --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 04/05/22 1:05:35 PM #43: |
Gwynevere posted... *game literally tells you exactly how to get to a secret area*Not to mention you can actually reach the fight from the main manor as well? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 04/05/22 1:06:06 PM #44: |
I think even when you hit Patches a few more times when he begins begging he like doubles down on the begging and is completely docile. Didn't need a guide for that lol I kinda understand not finding Patches but that also means you probably didn't find a lot of shit because he's not particularly hidden compared to that area in Bloodborne you have to take the carriage to. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 04/05/22 1:06:56 PM #45: |
Patches tells you but he shows up in a pretty random spot in Liurnia after the first encounter. Since the game shows NPC locations now it's not difficult to find as long as you've found him in that random cave in limgrave . Prior to patch 1.03, he was easy to miss IMO until you see him in the manor again. I missed him my first two playthroughs entirely lol. That said I've noticed a lot of people spending like 100 hours exploring the limgrave, liurnia, plateau area that didn't seem to have any trouble with some of the missable content. i beat the game twice before the 100-hour mark and only do half-assed adventuring in each region. I do consider that shortcut to be kinda an easter egg. it's not really needed tbh. you can access where it teleports you through the manor anyways although you do have to travel through an illusionary wall to reach that area. --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 04/05/22 1:07:07 PM #46: |
I found it by chance, and it was awesome because it was completely unexpected. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 04/05/22 1:07:26 PM #47: |
scar the 1 posted... Not to mention you can actually reach the fight from the main manor as well? Nothing in the manor itself leads anywhere. There's a blocked shut door and a door locked from the other side. I did all the quests, everyone left, and neither door opened. --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 04/05/22 1:07:48 PM #48: |
Is TC the guy that claims to have beaten the other souls games blind without dying on the first playthroughs? --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 04/05/22 1:09:01 PM #49: |
Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Is TC the guy that claims to have beaten the other souls games blind without dying on the first playthroughs? I did that for Dark Souls 1, yes. But not 2 or 3. --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CapnMuffin 04/05/22 1:09:06 PM #50: |
Honestly aside from all that, IMO, thats the beauty of the design choice. Some of you got there by sparing Patches and interacting with him. Some got there by complete accident. And some missed it and still have surprises in store for another time. Maybe not everyones cup of tea, especially in a world where most game developers are afraid youll miss things and ham fist every secret your way, but I love and prefer the way ER does it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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