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WalkingLobsters
04/24/22 3:20:10 AM
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Its always either a souped up regular enemy, or a boss that just summons goons and fodder nonstop

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Naysaspace
04/24/22 3:22:38 AM
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they dont?

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ZeroV2
04/24/22 3:31:10 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
they dont?
What are you favorite western designed boss fights?

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IndustrialTrudg
04/24/22 3:45:06 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
What are you favorite western designed boss fights?

I also came in to say they dont, but now that you asked damn.... you got me. I'm stumped.

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pegusus123456
04/24/22 3:45:53 AM
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ZeroV2 posted...
What are you favorite western designed boss fights?
God of War has some great ones.

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Xavier_On_High
04/24/22 3:47:01 AM
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My favourite western-made boss fight is the final boss of Morrowind, and yeah, it's dog shit.

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Questionmarktarius
04/24/22 3:48:27 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
My favourite western-made boss fight is the final boss of Morrowind, and yeah, it's dog shit.
Wheatley in Portal 2, and it's beyond epic.
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ZeroV2
04/24/22 3:48:52 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
God of War has some great ones.
Yeah god of war is legit the only series that came to mind, and the new one only has like one decent boss imo and its at the very beginning and barely a boss

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IndustrialTrudg
04/24/22 3:53:25 AM
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Oh wait. Forgot the best boss ever <3 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/0/1/AAezzqAADKlp.png

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Seaman_Prime
04/24/22 4:01:00 AM
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Hollow Knight, but thats an indie game. Cant think of any AAA western games.
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IndustrialTrudg
04/24/22 4:05:16 AM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
Hollow Knight, but thats an indie game. Cant think of any AAA western games.

Does Australian count as western? Actually I was just thinking America. If I can count Europe that changes things dramatically.

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WalkingLobsters
04/24/22 4:04:09 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
God of War has some great ones.
god of war does have some good boss fights but it also has a ton of boss fights where they just summon adds and fodder. Compare that with a game like DMC3, which is just nonstop banger after banger of a boss fight

in addition, western made games in general lack enemy diversity; especially AAA games where it's more about presentation and story than gameplay

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specialkid8
04/24/22 4:05:51 PM
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Unlike games from glorious Nippon that have boss fights that have been folded over a thousand times.

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Letsago
04/24/22 4:06:43 PM
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ZeroV2 posted...
What are you favorite western designed boss fights?
Something from Undertale. Take your pick

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EbonTitanium
04/24/22 4:08:01 PM
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Soul Reaver
Darksiders

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FortuneCookie
04/24/22 4:10:33 PM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
Does Australian count as western? Actually I was just thinking America. If I can count Europe that changes things dramatically.

Western means "where white people live."
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AsucaHayashi
04/24/22 4:15:34 PM
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ZeroV2 posted...
What are you favorite western designed boss fights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpyydtwR3Zc

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Damn_Underscore
04/24/22 4:24:56 PM
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Sonic Mania

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GiftedACIII
04/24/22 4:48:41 PM
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Most western AAA games don't even have bosses lol. Indies are where it's at although as can be seen by stuff like Hollow Knight and Undertale, most of them were heavily inspired by classic Japanese games too. Even Cuphead was inspired by Treasure and Konami run-n-guns and shmups.

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WalkingLobsters
04/24/22 5:07:35 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Most western AAA games don't even have bosses lol. Indies are where it's at although as can be seen by stuff like Hollow Knight and Undertale, most of them were heavily inspired by classic Japanese games too. Even Cuphead was inspired by Treasure and Konami run-n-guns and shmups.
yea and i don't know why

boss fights are always my favorite part of a game. They epitomize the climax in a story

edit: i do have to say world of warcraft had some epic bosses, and from what I recall, they took inspiration from zelda for building up a boss fight

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GiftedACIII
04/24/22 6:47:53 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
yea and i don't know why

boss fights are always my favorite part of a game. They epitomize the climax in a story

edit: i do have to say world of warcraft had some epic bosses, and from what I recall, they took inspiration from zelda for building up a boss fight

I think it's just because the usual AAA gameplay mechanics like player characters regenerating health and auto-save checkpoints aren't suited for bosses. Also, most of them these days try to go for realism and bosses aren't realistic unless they're giant monsters. It has to have wacky gameplay like Dead Rising to justify human bosses.

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alphagamble
04/24/22 6:51:07 PM
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I remember how underwhelming Bioshock Infinite was towards the end

Could have really used a boss fight imo

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GiftedACIII
04/24/22 7:16:10 PM
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alphagamble posted...
I remember how underwhelming Bioshock Infinite was towards the end

Could have really used a boss fight imo

It had a "boss fight". The ghost of Mrs. Comstock. It was horrible. Just a bunch of respawning enemies while it just ran all over the place only once in awhile doing an aoe blast.
The best "boss fight" Bioshock had was 1's final boss and infamously left something to be desired. But at least it was a proper boss fight.

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EndOfDiscOne
04/24/22 7:24:18 PM
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Metroid Prime

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pegusus123456
04/24/22 7:25:44 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
god of war does have some good boss fights but it also has a ton of boss fights where they just summon adds and fodder. Compare that with a game like DMC3, which is just nonstop banger after banger of a boss fight
There's nothing wrong with a boss spawning adds and fodder though.

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WalkingLobsters
04/24/22 7:47:20 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Metroid Prime
yeah metroid prime had some absolutely breathtaking boss fights. But I'd largely attribute to that to aligning with the series standard. Regardless, you are right

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KFHEWUI
04/24/22 7:49:43 PM
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Soul Reaver

The boss fights (except for Kain) are more of a puzzle than an actual fight, and each one is great.

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FurryPhilosifer
04/24/22 8:04:54 PM
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To be honest I can't think of many boss fights I like at all. Shadow of The Colossus I suppose.

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Questionmarktarius
04/25/22 11:54:31 AM
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
To be honest I can't think of many boss fights I like at all.
Galamoth, in SOTN
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FurryPhilosifer
04/25/22 2:14:30 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Galamoth, in SOTN
most sotn bosses are just me casting soul steal >_> or kicking them in the head

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Turbam
04/25/22 2:16:27 PM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
Does Australian count as western? Actually I was just thinking America. If I can count Europe that changes things dramatically.
Yeah, because in terms of games western means anything that was made outside of Japan.

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David1988
04/25/22 2:18:45 PM
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Big Smoke

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xXfireglzXx
04/25/22 2:21:13 PM
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Divinity 2 has some really crazy Boss fights. Especially by RPG standard.

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