Current Events > Error causes 27,000 chickens to be boiled alive

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Ivynn posted...

Error is a menace!

How is this guy still a mod??

haloiscoolisbak posted...

Not that it's okay, but more what's the point of making a big deal about this? Unless you're willing to actually give up meat, accept chickens have a terrible life regardless

The point is they don't have to live terrible lives at all, yet people are still choosing to pay for it to happen anyways, unaware of everything that is happening in the process.

Cuticrusader09 posted...

More of a reason to stop supporting factory farming and support small local farms. It will cost more, but the animals will be treated better and you will support someone in your community not a big corporation.

Naw fuck them animals, I want cheap(er) meat.

Xenozoa425 posted...

The point is they don't have to live terrible lives at all, yet people are still choosing to pay for it to happen anyways, unaware of everything that is happening in the process.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-x_FXDFGlQM

Falling back on memes or advertisements only proves that point further, honestly.

Xenozoa425 posted...

Falling back on memes or advertisements only proves that point further, honestly.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/0/AAR6WtAADM1Y.jpg

Ad hominem as well, nice.

Xenozoa425 posted...

Ad hominem as well, nice.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/2/AAR6WtAADM2g.jpg

Wow this topic still is goin'.

Error1355 posted...

Wow this topic still is goin'.

Of course it is. When you have at least one user who is 100% physically and mentally incapable of NOT making their opinions known, despite literally everyone already knowing what those opinions are, topics like this get increased longevity.

Or people that just like to shitpost.

Heartomaton posted...

Of course it is. When you have at least one user who is 100% physically and mentally incapable of NOT making their opinions known, despite literally everyone already knowing what those opinions are, topics like this get increased longevity.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/4/AAZ1uBAADM_I.jpg

Spiderman23JII posted...

Does anyone actually feel bad for the chickens? They where gonna get cooked anyway this is basically the same thing

A little. But mainly because it happened so soon. It was too early

Xenozoa425 posted...

There are other tasty foods that don't involve violently taking an innocent life. To me it's definitely an ethical thing, but there's many other benefits as well.

While this is true, it doesnt take away from the fact that there are also many foods that do require an animal death that also taste good. Plus, taste it subjective, so theres also that

Xenozoa425 posted...

I'm a simple guy, I love my simple dishes with potatoes, rice, pasta, curry, noodles, etc.

While I also like dishes like these, almost all of them I eat with some kind of meat

Xenozoa425 posted...

Which is that they are going to die anyways, so its ok? A meaningless, painful and wholly unnecessary death?

I think theyre sayjng that you both agree on the happy period being short

Xenozoa425 posted...

The point is they don't have to live terrible lives at all, yet people are still choosing to pay for it to happen anyways, unaware of everything that is happening in the process.

They dont have to. But I feel that the other farms, while better, have different problems. Not only are they more expensive (as stated earlier), but I feel there would be much less meat, as well

I'm going to continue enjoying chicken, bacon, burgers, and steak.

In fact, just yesterday, I put some of those frozen Tyson crispy tenders in my air fryer, and ate them with some mango habanero sauce.

Xenozoa425 posted...

About 4/5ths of the world's ice-free farmable land makes crops (corn, soy, wheat) for livestock that are killed to produce about 1/5th of the world's total caloric requirements.

It's extremely inefficient. Cows are the worst offenders, especially grass fed ones. They need at least 15x more acres of land to produce the same amount of calories as one acre of produce.

Instead, we can use all of that land to raise different crops (more variety of fruit, veggies, whole grains, legumes) and feed more people that don't have as easy means to purchase animal products as you or I do. It's faster, cheaper, healthier, more nutritionally adequate, and you don't have to unnecessarily artificially breed millions of innocent beings and kill them.

If plant lives matter to you also, then less plants are used in the above hypothetical solution of a more plant-based farming system, compared to how it's currently done with a mostly animal-based one. So it's still the better way to reduce unnecessary harm.

Someone call the Wambulance.

Xenozoa425 posted...

tastes good with some seasoning and breading.

Hnnnnnnng.

Joshua_Graham posted...

I'm going to continue enjoying chicken, bacon, burgers, and steak.

In fact, just yesterday, I put some of those frozen Tyson crispy tenders in my air fryer, and ate them with some mango habanero sauce.

boy you sure got those chickens

Joshua_Graham posted...

I'm going to continue enjoying chicken, bacon, burgers, and steak.

In fact, just yesterday, I put some of those frozen Tyson crispy tenders in my air fryer, and ate them with some mango habanero sauce.

Im more of a Tyson Chicken nugget kind of guy

Shablagoo posted...

boy you sure got those chickens

Thanks Error!

LinkPizza posted...

Im more of a Tyson Chicken nugget kind of guy

The crispy tenders has a better "deep fried" texture to it.

Joshua_Graham posted...

The crispy tenders has a better "deep fried" texture to it.

Probably I just like nuggets better

LinkPizza posted...

A little. But mainly because it happened so soon. It was too early

Way too early either way. The average wild chicken in its natural undomesticated environment lives a few years. Female broiler hens live about 6 weeks before slaughter. They are still essentially babies. Males are killed after hatching because they are considered "useless" and "unprofitable".

LinkPizza posted...

While this is true, it doesnt take away from the fact that there are also many foods that do require an animal death that also taste good. Plus, taste it subjective, so theres also that

Taste is indeed subjective, however the lives of others should be objectively brought into consideration. No one wants to die, nor should they die without a choice, just to satisfy a brief feeling of sensory pleasure.

LinkPizza posted...

While I also like dishes like these, almost all of them I eat with some kind of meat

You can choose to not eat them with some kind of meat, or use a substitute ingredient like lentils or seitan.

LinkPizza posted...

I think theyre sayjng that you both agree on the happy period being short

Fundamentally we have different views, because while others may think, or are being fooled into believing that they are leading happy lives, I know they are not.

LinkPizza posted...

They dont have to. But I feel that the other farms, while better, have different problems. Not only are they more expensive (as stated earlier), but I feel there would be much less meat, as well

If they still are forced to die, then giving them a better home with better conditions is an even greater act of cruelty against them, because they value their lives more when they are given more freedom and happiness. They are not simple commodities or objects. They are sentient and can feel and react to the world around them.

Disgusting that a Gamefaqs mod would do something like this.

Srk700 posted...

Disgusting that a Gamefaqs mod would do something like this.

Was just an honest mistake. What's a 27K chickens between friends anyway, eh?

Error1355 posted...

Was just an honest mistake. What's a 27K chickens between friends anyway, eh?

Unironically nothing.

Xenozoa425 posted...

Way too early either way. The average wild chicken in its natural undomesticated environment lives a few years. Female broiler hens live about 6 weeks before slaughter. They are still essentially babies. Males are killed after hatching because they are considered "useless" and "unprofitable".

While Im not saying they should be killed, multiple rooster can be bad in some cases. They can live together if its just roosters. But when you get hens involved, they usually each get a harem So too many rooster with not enough hens can get dangerous for all

Xenozoa425 posted...

Taste is indeed subjective, however the lives of others should be objectively brought into consideration. No one wants to die, nor should they die without a choice, just to satisfy a brief feeling of sensory pleasure.

Even if we dont kills them, that doesnt mean they get a choice. Most living things dont get a choice about living or dying We are brought into this world without choice. And most leave this world without choice And sure, its a brief sensory pleasure. But it taste good. Not only that. We arent the only creature that eats meat. Many other animals are carnivores and omnivores. We just found a way to make the meat easily get, and it greater numbers Other than us farming them, we arent different from those animals. It not like we need to force a lion to have a vegan diet like on Futurama just because we need to protect all animals

Xenozoa425 posted...

You can choose to not eat them with some kind of meat, or use a substitute ingredient like lentils or seitan.

I could. And they wouldnt taste the same. If I dont want meat in my pasta, I would cook it without meat. And I do once know a while. But usually, I do want meat (and cheese) in my pastas. Thats why I add them. Its not like I didnt know I could replace them. Its that I didnt want, nor need, to replace the meats

Plus, replacing stuff does very much alter the taste. It could alter it enough that I dont like it

Xenozoa425 posted...

Fundamentally we have different views, because while others may think, or are being fooled into believing that they are leading happy lives, I know they are not.

I couldnt tell you. I dont spend much time with those kinds of chickens. I have friends and family with chickens. But those are closer to pets. Though, they do use most of the eggs, though

Xenozoa425 posted...

If they still are forced to die, then giving them a better home with better conditions is an even greater act of cruelty against them, because they value their lives more when they are given more freedom and happiness. They are not simple commodities or objects. They are sentient and can feel and react to the world around them.

Really? I think itd be nicer. If youre going to die, would you rather live in place many people call a hellhole, or somewhere closer to paradise. Id choose paradise, personally I think most people would Are you saying you would choose the worse place to live if you only had so much time left to live True. They are living beings. That said, without farming, most of them wouldnt have even gotten a chance to live, if were being honest

LinkPizza posted...

While Im not saying they should be killed, multiple rooster can be bad in some cases. They can live together if its just roosters. But when you get hens involved, they usually each get a harem So too many rooster with not enough hens can get dangerous for all

Factory farms, as described in the OP, make up the vast majority of where the broiler hens are raised. There are no roosters at all. They cannot maintain a natural pecking order due to the overcrowding, the feces and other poor conditions. The hens have their beaks cut after birth, in order to prevent aggressive behaviors and cannibalism from the psychological torment of what I mentioned.

LinkPizza posted...

Even if we dont kills them, that doesnt mean they get a choice. Most living things dont get a choice about living or dying We are brought into this world without choice. And most leave this world without choice And sure, its a brief sensory pleasure. But it taste good. Not only that. We arent the only creature that eats meat. Many other animals are carnivores and omnivores. We just found a way to make the meat easily get, and it greater numbers Other than us farming them, we arent different from those animals. It not like we need to force a lion to have a vegan diet like on Futurama just because we need to protect all animals

You, me, and many other people on this planet were probably brought into this world because our parents wanted to. They probably chose to have children because they wanted to start a family. Unlike us though, the factory farmed animals do not choose to make children, as they are typically raped and artificially inseminated against their will.

Yes, it tastes good, but that taste cost somebody their child or their own life. Instead, you can choose to have other tasty foods that do not involve any acts of cruelty or brutality towards someone's life or their family.

A lion is an obligate carnivore, they cannot survive without consuming other animals. We aren't the same as them, or any other animal for that matter. We don't live in a natural environment and copy everything wild animals do. We live in towns, cities and other places, where we artificially alter the environment, build structures with specific purposes and designate individuals to carry out tasks, in order to support our societal needs. We are not obligate carnivores or omnivores, and we can both survive and thrive on herbivorous diets. It's more efficient to use several acres of land to grow a variety of crops, than it is to use all that land to grow monocrops to feed animals instead of starving humans.

LinkPizza posted...

I could. And they wouldnt taste the same. If I dont want meat in my pasta, I would cook it without meat. And I do once know a while. But usually, I do want meat (and cheese) in my pastas. Thats why I add them. Its not like I didnt know I could replace them. Its that I didnt want, nor need, to replace the meats...

Plus, replacing stuff does very much alter the taste. It could alter it enough that I dont like it

Taste is subjective, as you yourself mentioned. The same way you grow to dislike something, you can also grow to like something. With enough knowledge and the right ingredients, you can replicate virtually all tastes, textures and smells.

LinkPizza posted...

I couldnt tell you. I dont spend much time with those kinds of chickens. I have friends and family with chickens. But those are closer to pets. Though, they do use most of the eggs, though

The chickens are still being treated as commodities or objects either way.

LinkPizza posted...

Really? I think itd be nicer. If youre going to die, would you rather live in place many people call a hellhole, or somewhere closer to paradise. Id choose paradise, personally I think most people would Are you saying you would choose the worse place to live if you only had so much time left to live True. They are living beings. That said, without farming, most of them wouldnt have even gotten a chance to live, if were being honest

The point is that they don't get any choice in the matter at all. It's not a question of how good or bad they might live. They still are forced to suffer and die against their own wishes either way. The only reason they are living at all is so that money can be made from their children, and their dead bodies and secretions.

@Error1355 Menace to society. Should be like your twin sister who is: @Errorless

Xenozoa425 posted...

Factory farms, as described in the OP, make up the vast majority of where the broiler hens are raised. There are no roosters at all. They cannot maintain a natural pecking order due to the overcrowding, the feces and other poor conditions. The hens have their beaks cut after birth, in order to prevent aggressive behaviors and cannibalism from the psychological torment of what I mentioned.

If they only live to six weeks, pecking order might not be as important, tbh

Xenozoa425 posted...

You, me, and many other people on this planet were probably brought into this world because our parents wanted to. They probably chose to have children because they wanted to start a family. Unlike us though, the factory farmed animals do not choose to make children, as they are typically raped and artificially inseminated against their will.

Yes, it tastes good, but that taste cost somebody their child or their own life. Instead, you can choose to have other tasty foods that do not involve any acts of cruelty or brutality towards someone's life or their family.

A lion is an obligate carnivore, they cannot survive without consuming other animals. We aren't the same as them, or any other animal for that matter. We don't live in a natural environment and copy everything wild animals do. We live in towns, cities and other places, where we artificially alter the environment, build structures with specific purposes and designate individuals to carry out tasks, in order to support our societal needs. We are not obligate carnivores or omnivores, and we can both survive and thrive on herbivorous diets. It's more efficient to use several acres of land to grow a variety of crops, than it is to use all that land to grow monocrops to feed animals instead of starving humans.

Just because they chose to have us didnt mean we got a choice in living or not Thats the choice Im talking about. Our parents choosing to have us is their choice Not ours And I dont know if you knew, but they are plenty of animals that rape to mate Its actually kind of common

And I dont only eat meat. But I do like it. So, I have no reason to give it up. I still eat other stuff. But meat and other animal byproducts taste good. So, Ill eat those, too. And definitely not giving up really cheeses So many of them are so good. Plus, I try to rotate many different foods, because I can get sick or certain foods after too much of it. Which is why I rotate through different meats and veggies. Taking out all animal byproducts cuts my menu down significantly And while I heard they have gotten a little better, I remember the plant cheese use to be really bad Either way, there are still plenty of real cheeses I would want And again, taste is subjective, so saying you can have a tasty foods that dont involve cruelty or brutality isnt always true for everyone

We are still animals, though. We just evolved. Instead of living in trees of huts, we made houses and apartments. We used tools to build all kinds of amazing things. But in the end, we are still animals. Were just civilized. And instead of constantly hunting, we figured it be smarter to just raise the food ourselves And if were really honest, even if we only grew crops, most of the people who are starving now would still be starving In the end, I like my meat and animal byproducts. Without them, my happiness would definitely fall somewhat

Xenozoa425 posted...

Taste is subjective, as you yourself mentioned. The same way you grow to dislike something, you can also grow to like something. With enough knowledge and the right ingredients, you can replicate virtually all tastes, textures and smells.

I know I can grow to like something. But I also dont have to force myself to change my diet because someone else wants me to. I dont need to, nor do I want to. I like the foods I like. Not only that, but meals become harder other places. Like home. I wouldnt want to have to cook every time I go home. Nobody is my family that I know is vegan. Probably no vegetarians, either. Plus, while more places are getting vegan and veggie items, not all places are there yet. So, theres also that. And you can replicate a lot of taste, but it still wont actually be the same Theres always some little difference In the end, I have no need to change. I dont mind trying new things. But just because I found something else I like doesnt mean I have to give up something else I like. Ill just like them both. And maybe add it to my rotating menu of foods

Xenozoa425 posted...

The chickens are still being treated as commodities or objects either way.

Maybe to you. Idk. The people I know treat them more as pets

Xenozoa425 posted...

The point is that they don't get any choice in the matter at all. It's not a question of how good or bad they might live. They still are forced to suffer and die against their own wishes either way. The only reason they are living at all is so that money can be made from their children, and their dead bodies and secretions.

Theyre forced to do a lot of stuff against their wishes. In nature, they may not have made it as long, depending on the area Again, just because they are in the wild doesnt mean they actually get choices. They could be hunted by predators, for example

Arcanine2009 posted...

@Error1355 Menace to society. Should be like your twin sister who is: @Errorless

Shes also an idol. And they are all the rage in Japan

Sorry haven't had the chance to reply lately.

LinkPizza posted...

If they only live to six weeks, pecking order might not be as important, tbh

They are unable to live as they naturally would purely because of our unnatural methods of exploiting them for monetary gain.

Just because they chose to have us didnt mean we got a choice in living or not Thats the choice Im talking about. Our parents choosing to have us is their choice Not ours And I dont know if you knew, but they are plenty of animals that rape to mate Its actually kind of common

Correct, however I don't think you'll argue against your ability to exist as you do in the first place. I'm sure you're grateful for the life you have. All I'm pointing out is that while you have the ability to do as you please within practicality and reason, the chickens have no autonomy in their lives at all. They are treated as objects, as items, as products, as commodities. They are subject to injustices and cruelties in order to satisfy your desires and wants, not your requirements and needs. That does not have to happen and is entirely a choice.

And I dont only eat meat. But I do like it. So, I have no reason to give it up. I still eat other stuff. But meat and other animal byproducts taste good. So, Ill eat those, too. And definitely not giving up really cheeses So many of them are so good. Plus, I try to rotate many different foods, because I can get sick or certain foods after too much of it. Which is why I rotate through different meats and veggies. Taking out all animal byproducts cuts my menu down significantly And while I heard they have gotten a little better, I remember the plant cheese use to be really bad Either way, there are still plenty of real cheeses I would want And again, taste is subjective, so saying you can have a tasty foods that dont involve cruelty or brutality isnt always true for everyone

It doesn't cut your menu down, you can still enjoy the same foods, you just have to find or replace the ingredients that have the minimal amount of cruelty and suffering.

I still enjoy burgers, pizza, ice cream, macaroni & cheese, burritos, hotdogs and cookies. I just eat ones that are made from plants, not animal flesh or secretions.

We are still animals, though. We just evolved. Instead of living in trees of huts, we made houses and apartments. We used tools to build all kinds of amazing things. But in the end, we are still animals. Were just civilized. And instead of constantly hunting, we figured it be smarter to just raise the food ourselves And if were really honest, even if we only grew crops, most of the people who are starving now would still be starving In the end, I like my meat and animal byproducts. Without them, my happiness would definitely fall somewhat

If we are animals, then we should all just do as we please with no regard for laws and morality. Lions eat their own cubs, spiders eat the heads of their mates. We should do those things too, by your logic.

But we do not, because we humans have moral agency. We have a higher capacity of sentience, therefore we must hold ourselves to higher standards, and we should respect all aspects of life. If we are at the top, then we must act as the guardians of the planet, not as barbaric life takers. We are fully capable of transitioning to purely plant agriculture, and the benefits to that are mountainous. But it starts with a choice, and we all, for the most part, want to do the right thing and prevent unnecessary harm and suffering.

I know I can grow to like something. But I also dont have to force myself to change my diet because someone else wants me to. I dont need to, nor do I want to. I like the foods I like. Not only that, but meals become harder other places. Like home. I wouldnt want to have to cook every time I go home. Nobody is my family that I know is vegan. Probably no vegetarians, either. Plus, while more places are getting vegan and veggie items, not all places are there yet. So, theres also that. And you can replicate a lot of taste, but it still wont actually be the same Theres always some little difference In the end, I have no need to change. I dont mind trying new things. But just because I found something else I like doesnt mean I have to give up something else I like. Ill just like them both. And maybe add it to my rotating menu of foods

Then you must accept that your choices have consequences against others, and by nature of supply and demand, you are supporting animal cruelty, and paying for the torture, suffering and death of innocent beings. You are also indirectly contributing to human cruelty by voting with your dollar, you are paying companies for products that employ people who must work in the horrible conditions of factory farms and slaughterhouses to support their families.

Maybe to you. Idk. The people I know treat them more as pets

Well if someone is using the animal to take something from them, then that is exploitation, and that is morally wrong, period.

Theyre forced to do a lot of stuff against their wishes. In nature, they may not have made it as long, depending on the area Again, just because they are in the wild doesnt mean they actually get choices. They could be hunted by predators, for example

A factory farm and slaughterhouse is not natural. Artificial insemination is not natural. Domestication and genetic manipulation/engineering is not natural. These are real things that are being forced on them because of us. In nature, we don't feel guilty because we aren't being held responaible for what happens to them. Sometimes it is tragic, but what we do to billions of animals each year is a far greater travesty.

Its fine, I guess. Normally, when Im at work, Im usually watching something. So, I dont get to check the site much, anyway

Xenozoa425 posted...

They are unable to live as they naturally would purely because of our unnatural methods of exploiting them for monetary gain.

Yeah. Which is why pecking order might not be as important since they arent living natural lives

Xenozoa425 posted...

Correct, however I don't think you'll argue against your ability to exist as you do in the first place. I'm sure you're grateful for the life you have. All I'm pointing out is that while you have the ability to do as you please within practicality and reason, the chickens have no autonomy in their lives at all. They are treated as objects, as items, as products, as commodities. They are subject to injustices and cruelties in order to satisfy your desires and wants, not your requirements and needs. That does not have to happen and is entirely a choice.

While I personally may not argue against being here, I know people who have/do. Some people dont want to be here so much that they chose to not be here Some people are mad that they were born. None of us chose to be here, but here we are. Some are happy, some are fine with it, and some hate it As for us treating the chickens like items, Im fine with that choice, tbh I mean, even if they werent farmed, we probably still hunt them. If we didnt farm them, they would probably be gone like the Dodo bird

Xenozoa425 posted...

It doesn't cut your menu down, you can still enjoy the same foods, you just have to find or replace the ingredients that have the minimal amount of cruelty and suffering.

I still enjoy burgers, pizza, ice cream, macaroni & cheese, burritos, hotdogs and cookies. I just eat ones that are made from plants, not animal flesh or secretions.

No. You cant say that. It 100% cuts my menu down. I didnt say I cant eat tasty foods. But it definitely cuts my menu down. By more than half, at that Most of the meals I have require cheese. And about half of them (maybe a little more) require meats. So, yes. Taking out all animal byproducts, including meat, cuts my menu down significantly And I dont want to replace anything. If I wanted to replace it, I would have already done so And technically, replacing something makes it a different recipe. So, either way, Im losing recipes

And thats good for you. Im just going to enjoy the ones made from animals instead. I like those better Even if you can mimic the taste well, its not exactly the same. And even if I like them, sometimes, I may still want the real ones instead Its all about preference. And I know what I prefer Plus, it might just be my areas, but they are usually more expensive, as well

Xenozoa425 posted...

If we are animals, then we should all just do as we please with no regard for laws and morality. Lions eat their own cubs, spiders eat the heads of their mates. We should do those things too, by your logic.

But we do not, because we humans have moral agency. We have a higher capacity of sentience, therefore we must hold ourselves to higher standards, and we should respect all aspects of life. If we are at the top, then we must act as the guardians of the planet, not as barbaric life takers. We are fully capable of transitioning to purely plant agriculture, and the benefits to that are mountainous. But it starts with a choice, and we all, for the most part, want to do the right thing and prevent unnecessary harm and suffering.

You logic is flawed. We could do away with laws and morality, but not even all animals are like that. Dogs have pack leaders, for example. Many animals have a leader of their group. And they do what the leader tells them to do. If they do, some sort of consequence will be handed out. Humans are the same. We have leaders who tell us what to do. And when we dont follow the rules i.e. break the law), we also have consequences. Just because were animals doesnt mean we are all the same. Spiders and praying mantises (among others) kill their mate after sex. But not every animal does. Cats and dogs, for example, usually dont. So, wed be more like them when have sex Not exactly like them, but definitely closer

Also, just because we have higher sentience doesnt mean we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Also, by your standards, we cant eat plants, either. They are alive, after all you said respect all life And plants are also alive, so And like you said, we would all need to want that. But we all dont So, why try to force others to act just like you. Just let us eat what we want, and we let you eat what you want

Xenozoa425 posted...

Then you must accept that your choices have consequences against others, and by nature of supply and demand, you are supporting animal cruelty, and paying for the torture, suffering and death of innocent beings. You are also indirectly contributing to human cruelty by voting with your dollar, you are paying companies for products that employ people who must work in the horrible conditions of factory farms and slaughterhouses to support their families.

I already know my choices have consequences. And Ive accepted them, already This is nothing new

Xenozoa425 posted...

Well if someone is using the animal to take something from them, then that is exploitation, and that is morally wrong, period.

And when did I say thats what they were doing. I didnt. My co-workers wife wanted chickens. And they didnt have a rooster at the time. The chickens were still laying eggs. So, they just collected the unfertilized eggs. But the reason they got the chickens was because the wife likes animals Youre just assuming they got chickens for the eggs. But they didnt. Stop acting like youre morally superior and know what others are doing

Xenozoa425 posted...

A factory farm and slaughterhouse is not natural. Artificial insemination is not natural. Domestication and genetic manipulation/engineering is not natural. These are real things that are being forced on them because of us. In nature, we don't feel guilty because we aren't being held responaible for what happens to them. Sometimes it is tragic, but what we do to billions of animals each year is a far greater travesty.

I never said any of those things were natural, though. So, I dont know why youre telling me they arent natural. We already know they arent And it does kind of suck. But Ill take that suck to keep eating foods I like

wbloechel posted...

I like how people are still tagging error.

He knows what he did

AdrianBeterson posted...

How can you tell someone is vegan?

Dont do anything, theyll tell you themselves lmao

I like how you laughed at this with the full knowledge you'd be the only person to do so

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what the fuck are the posts before this one