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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 4:28:35 AM #1: |
Eve Onlines community has been outraged and in full revolt after CCP announced it's first price hike since 2003. A subscription will increase from $15 to $20 a month starting June. As someone with a job spending $80 a month for four accounts really isn't a big deal put lots of players are PISSED. Trying to get some perspective on if the outrage is warranted after two decades of inflation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OpenlyGator 05/24/22 4:30:36 AM #2: |
What's the benefit of having multiple accounts to play Eve Online? --- The funny thing about telling others to take the high road is how often it's hypocritical advice. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/28/IdSqD.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DEKMStephens 05/24/22 4:32:33 AM #3: |
However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess --- ----- ------- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnny_Nutcase 05/24/22 4:35:23 AM #5: |
I wouldn't --- Drunk people really make a lot of sense if you don't know what they're talking about - Jim Lahey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 4:38:06 AM #6: |
OpenlyGator posted... What's the benefit of having multiple accounts to play Eve Online? It's essential to play at higher levels. Most players multibox 3-5 characters. You'll need your subcapital pilot for most fleet PvP, your Dreadnaught/Supercapital alt, your FAX, (capital sized healer) and your cyno characters to allow your capital ships to jump out of sticky situations. This doesn't include possible spy accounts you put into other alliances to read their plans/Intel/fleet pings. Training skills is time based in Eve. One character would take literal decades to train everything so you have your characters specialize. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 05/24/22 4:40:03 AM #7: |
DEKMStephens posted... However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 4:42:44 AM #8: |
It's essential to play at higher levels. Most players multibox 3-5 characters. Sounds like a game not even worth paying $15/mo for (sorry, $45-75/mo apparently), let alone $20/mo (sorry, $60-100/mo apparently) But what do I know ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn 05/24/22 4:45:24 AM #9: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 05/24/22 4:46:20 AM #10: |
The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. The malding from that segment of the community was hilarious. From what I understand the server economies has greatly improved after that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnadSPlDaZQ --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 4:52:15 AM #11: |
Philip027 posted...
That's ok most people hide their lack of ability with contempt. You wouldn't be able to do it so it wouldnt be worth paying for. I agree. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nexigrams 05/24/22 5:05:43 AM #12: |
pogo_rabid posted... The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. The malding from that segment of the community was hilarious. From what I understand the server economies has greatly improved after that. Nah it's the same thing. Still got millions of bots skinning, mining, crafting, etc. and flooding the market with tens of thousands of mats. It just makes people feel better to not see chains of boomies running around skinning, but the fact of the matter is there is no difference between a couple million bots and a couple million bots multiboxxing 8 characters. The result is so much additional mats on the AH that any real live human player who attempts to craft something will lose gold. The bots got the Walmart strategy down. They deal in such bulk that no human could ever keep up with them, and therefore are able to grind prices down to a point where it's not cost effective to try anyways. --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 05/24/22 5:07:09 AM #13: |
$0 Theyre not my thing. --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 05/24/22 5:08:00 AM #14: |
DEKMStephens posted... However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocDelicious 05/24/22 5:08:02 AM #15: |
pogo_rabid posted... The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. People still multibox all the time though? There are whole guilds full of one player's characters. Anyway, I'd either pay the $10-15 monthly or $60 purchase price, not both. No way in hell I'd pay $20 monthly. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY 05/24/22 5:08:56 AM #16: |
I would not pay anything at all, and I would not be wasting my valuable time in a stupid MMO to begin with. Learned way back in 2002, 2003 to not play those time wasting games. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 05/24/22 5:09:37 AM #17: |
pogo_rabid posted... The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. The malding from that segment of the community was hilarious. From what I understand the server economies has greatly improved after that.multiboxing was always the stupidest thing and always had the stupidest defenders. and boy were there a lot of stupid defenders. sucked a lot of fun out of the game just encountering a random multiboxer who reports you 40 times and kicks you out of the game because you were about to take his mining node, or encountering a multiboxer in a BG and ruining it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 5:12:22 AM #18: |
That's ok most people hide their lack of ability with contempt. You wouldn't be able to do it so it wouldnt be worth paying for. I agree. You mean kind of like how most people will brush aside critique of the things they enjoy by suggesting the other person was probably just incapable? Yeah, I get that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 5:14:12 AM #19: |
Kloe_Rinz posted... multiboxing was always the stupidest thing and always had the stupidest defenders. and boy were there a lot of stupid defenders. sucked a lot of fun out of the game just encountering a random multiboxer who reports you 40 times and kicks you out of the game because you were about to take his mining node, or encountering a multiboxer in a BG and ruining it One of the pros of Eve is the players and alliances police themselves. I could take 4 characters out and mine all of a resource but you'll be socially ostracized for it and possibly kicked from the group. If you do want to suck resources like that on your space you pay the alliance extra tax to put up your own structures for private use ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pogo_rabid 05/24/22 5:14:48 AM #20: |
RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted... Learned way back in 2002, 2003 to not play those time wasting games.Name me a few video games that aren't for the purpose of wasting time. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pitlord_Special 05/24/22 5:37:33 AM #21: |
I pay $13/mo for XIV Definitely wouldnt touch $20/mo though. --- Posted from my iPhone 13 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 05/24/22 5:45:05 AM #22: |
i'm paying 24/month for ffxiv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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b_hamnite 05/24/22 7:32:27 AM #24: |
Nothing...unless you're bringing out City of Heroes 2. Then, we'll talk. --- I miss the days when you could bring a game home and play, no updates to wait for. Now, get off my lawn. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RealityDose 05/24/22 7:33:23 AM #25: |
I thought you could buy time with plex and earn plex in game? --- they be bumpin they be rulin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 7:34:06 AM #26: |
Philip027 posted... will brush aside critique of the things they enjoy Philip027 posted... Sounds like a game not even worth paying $15/mo for (sorry, $45-75/mo apparently), let alone $20/mo (sorry, $60-100/mo apparently) I missed the critique. Care to point it out from your post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 05/24/22 7:35:40 AM #27: |
I pay $13 a month for OSRS. I'd probaby be pissed if they hiked up the price like that. --- People say friends don't destroy one another - what do they know about friends? Now Playing: Old-School Runescape, Paladins, Tetris 99 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delta_Force 05/24/22 7:38:11 AM #28: |
Nothing. The only way I would pay is if for example I buy a 30 day service, I actually get 43200 minutes. Otherwise I'm just throwing money away because I can't play every day. --- More Bush on Obama's Clinton! What the hell does "should of" mean? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Koishi 05/24/22 7:39:57 AM #29: |
DEKMStephens posted... However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess --- Komeiji Koishi, The Closed Eyes of Love ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 7:40:57 AM #30: |
You can buy PLEX which is what you redeem for your monthly subscription. You can also buy PLEX using the ingame currency ISK. Grinding that out gets tedious, i'd rather save my ISK and just pay with 1-2 hours of irl work. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 7:43:01 AM #31: |
IXI_Fission_IXI posted... I missed the critique. Care to point it out from your post. The critique was that if it's "essential" to multibox a game like that (on top of having to pay a monthly subscription for each account, on top of the game increasing its subscription price after being idek how many years old) I don't feel like it's a well-put-together game and it just seems more like an attempt at blatant cashgrab to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 7:44:57 AM #32: |
Philip027 posted...
It isnt essential to play. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 7:49:46 AM #33: |
I'm just going by what you yourself said in post #6. I don't play this game myself. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 7:54:21 AM #34: |
Philip027 posted... I'm just going by what you yourself said in post #6. I don't play this game myself. At the highest levels. You can play the game just fine on one account. Many people play for years using the free Alpha state. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 7:58:01 AM #35: |
At the highest levels. I know what you said. I'm saying that if that is how the game is built (where you cannot play at the "highest level" without multiboxing), my opinion is that it's not a well-put-together game. The fact that each account just requires you to shell out more money monthly just makes it even more egregious. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 8:01:43 AM #36: |
Philip027 posted...
It doesn't require you to shell out real money to multibox. It can be done for free. Highest level in this game means 5+ years of playing before you can even think of that style of gameplay. It doesn't cater to players looking for instant gratification. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 8:05:14 AM #37: |
It doesn't require you to shell out real money to multibox. It can be done for free. Then why's everyone pissed? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 8:07:35 AM #38: |
Philip027 posted...
Because some of the people who do pay don't want to pay more... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 8:09:19 AM #39: |
So that implies there is still a cost involved with playing it "for free", which essentially means it's not actually free. So, that pretty much brings me right back to post #35. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 8:13:05 AM #40: |
There is no cost for playing for free and there is no implication of that. Playing for free costs nothing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 8:19:43 AM #41: |
So why would people choose to pay something to play this game instead of paying nothing? And why would people suddenly complain about paying more, when they already had the option to pay nothing? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jerry_Hellyeah 05/24/22 8:22:41 AM #42: |
Play Warframe. Absolutely free, 8 years of updates and refinement. Incredible game. Its better than that MMO youre playing now. --- This is a cool sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 8:23:06 AM #43: |
Philip027 posted... So why would people choose to pay something to play this game instead of paying nothing? And why would people suddenly complain about paying more, when they already had the option to pay nothing? Paying unlocks Omega. You can play the game as an Alpha. The other two are self evident. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Philip027 05/24/22 8:26:48 AM #44: |
No clue what you're talking about with this Alpha/Omega stuff. Like I said, I don't play this game. Sounds to me like you're saying that there's some kind of benefit to paying that free players don't get, though. Which, again, brings me back to post #35. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 05/24/22 8:28:48 AM #45: |
zero. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/24/22 8:31:20 AM #46: |
$0 But I can see the reason why a fan who has paid Thousands of dollars to Eve Online for years would be upset by this Isn't WoW free now? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spiritlittle 05/24/22 8:32:31 AM #47: |
$12.99 for FF14. Well worth it. --- Official Fujin of the Mortal Kombat 11 board. Trails of Cold Steel is the most underappreciated JRPG series ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IXI_Fission_IXI 05/24/22 8:35:43 AM #48: |
Philip027 posted... Like I said, I don't play this game. Then why do you have such a strong opinion? Philip027 posted...
Point out the contradiction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 05/24/22 9:02:24 AM #49: |
Is this topic the first time Phil has heard of EVE online or something? I thought everyone knew the top players take that game super serious --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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