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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 4:28:35 AM
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Eve Onlines community has been outraged and in full revolt after CCP announced it's first price hike since 2003. A subscription will increase from $15 to $20 a month starting June.

As someone with a job spending $80 a month for four accounts really isn't a big deal put lots of players are PISSED.

Trying to get some perspective on if the outrage is warranted after two decades of inflation.
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OpenlyGator
05/24/22 4:30:36 AM
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What's the benefit of having multiple accounts to play Eve Online?

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DEKMStephens
05/24/22 4:32:33 AM
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However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess

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Johnny_Nutcase
05/24/22 4:35:23 AM
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I wouldn't

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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 4:38:06 AM
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OpenlyGator posted...
What's the benefit of having multiple accounts to play Eve Online?

It's essential to play at higher levels. Most players multibox 3-5 characters.

You'll need your subcapital pilot for most fleet PvP, your Dreadnaught/Supercapital alt, your FAX, (capital sized healer) and your cyno characters to allow your capital ships to jump out of sticky situations. This doesn't include possible spy accounts you put into other alliances to read their plans/Intel/fleet pings.

Training skills is time based in Eve. One character would take literal decades to train everything so you have your characters specialize.
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pogo_rabid
05/24/22 4:40:03 AM
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DEKMStephens posted...
However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess


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Philip027
05/24/22 4:42:44 AM
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It's essential to play at higher levels. Most players multibox 3-5 characters.

Sounds like a game not even worth paying $15/mo for (sorry, $45-75/mo apparently), let alone $20/mo (sorry, $60-100/mo apparently)

But what do I know
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
05/24/22 4:45:24 AM
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pogo_rabid
05/24/22 4:46:20 AM
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The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. The malding from that segment of the community was hilarious. From what I understand the server economies has greatly improved after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnadSPlDaZQ

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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 4:52:15 AM
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Philip027 posted...

Sounds like a game not even worth paying $15/mo for (sorry, $45-75/mo apparently), let alone $20/mo (sorry, $60-100/mo apparently)

But what do I know

That's ok most people hide their lack of ability with contempt. You wouldn't be able to do it so it wouldnt be worth paying for. I agree.
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nexigrams
05/24/22 5:05:43 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. The malding from that segment of the community was hilarious. From what I understand the server economies has greatly improved after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnadSPlDaZQ

Nah it's the same thing. Still got millions of bots skinning, mining, crafting, etc. and flooding the market with tens of thousands of mats. It just makes people feel better to not see chains of boomies running around skinning, but the fact of the matter is there is no difference between a couple million bots and a couple million bots multiboxxing 8 characters.

The result is so much additional mats on the AH that any real live human player who attempts to craft something will lose gold. The bots got the Walmart strategy down. They deal in such bulk that no human could ever keep up with them, and therefore are able to grind prices down to a point where it's not cost effective to try anyways.

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rexcrk
05/24/22 5:07:09 AM
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$0

Theyre not my thing.


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Kloe_Rinz
05/24/22 5:08:00 AM
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DEKMStephens posted...
However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess

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DocDelicious
05/24/22 5:08:02 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing.

People still multibox all the time though? There are whole guilds full of one player's characters.

Anyway, I'd either pay the $10-15 monthly or $60 purchase price, not both. No way in hell I'd pay $20 monthly.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/24/22 5:08:56 AM
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I would not pay anything at all, and I would not be wasting my valuable time in a stupid MMO to begin with. Learned way back in 2002, 2003 to not play those time wasting games.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/24/22 5:09:37 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
The greatest thing Blizzard ever did in the past few years was they day they randomly decided to ban multiboxing. The malding from that segment of the community was hilarious. From what I understand the server economies has greatly improved after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnadSPlDaZQ
multiboxing was always the stupidest thing and always had the stupidest defenders. and boy were there a lot of stupid defenders. sucked a lot of fun out of the game just encountering a random multiboxer who reports you 40 times and kicks you out of the game because you were about to take his mining node, or encountering a multiboxer in a BG and ruining it
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Philip027
05/24/22 5:12:22 AM
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That's ok most people hide their lack of ability with contempt. You wouldn't be able to do it so it wouldnt be worth paying for. I agree.

You mean kind of like how most people will brush aside critique of the things they enjoy by suggesting the other person was probably just incapable? Yeah, I get that
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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 5:14:12 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
multiboxing was always the stupidest thing and always had the stupidest defenders. and boy were there a lot of stupid defenders. sucked a lot of fun out of the game just encountering a random multiboxer who reports you 40 times and kicks you out of the game because you were about to take his mining node, or encountering a multiboxer in a BG and ruining it

One of the pros of Eve is the players and alliances police themselves. I could take 4 characters out and mine all of a resource but you'll be socially ostracized for it and possibly kicked from the group. If you do want to suck resources like that on your space you pay the alliance extra tax to put up your own structures for private use
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pogo_rabid
05/24/22 5:14:48 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Learned way back in 2002, 2003 to not play those time wasting games.
Name me a few video games that aren't for the purpose of wasting time.

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Pitlord_Special
05/24/22 5:37:33 AM
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I pay $13/mo for XIV

Definitely wouldnt touch $20/mo though.

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Kaiganeer
05/24/22 5:45:05 AM
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i'm paying 24/month for ffxiv
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b_hamnite
05/24/22 7:32:27 AM
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Nothing...unless you're bringing out City of Heroes 2. Then, we'll talk.

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RealityDose
05/24/22 7:33:23 AM
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I thought you could buy time with plex and earn plex in game?

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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 7:34:06 AM
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Philip027 posted...
will brush aside critique of the things they enjoy

Philip027 posted...
Sounds like a game not even worth paying $15/mo for (sorry, $45-75/mo apparently), let alone $20/mo (sorry, $60-100/mo apparently)

But what do I know

I missed the critique. Care to point it out from your post.
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MrMallard
05/24/22 7:35:40 AM
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I pay $13 a month for OSRS. I'd probaby be pissed if they hiked up the price like that.

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Delta_Force
05/24/22 7:38:11 AM
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Nothing.

The only way I would pay is if for example I buy a 30 day service, I actually get 43200 minutes.
Otherwise I'm just throwing money away because I can't play every day.

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Koishi
05/24/22 7:39:57 AM
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DEKMStephens posted...
However much I am paying for FFXIV I guess


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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 7:40:57 AM
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You can buy PLEX which is what you redeem for your monthly subscription. You can also buy PLEX using the ingame currency ISK. Grinding that out gets tedious, i'd rather save my ISK and just pay with 1-2 hours of irl work.
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Philip027
05/24/22 7:43:01 AM
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IXI_Fission_IXI posted...
I missed the critique. Care to point it out from your post.

The critique was that if it's "essential" to multibox a game like that (on top of having to pay a monthly subscription for each account, on top of the game increasing its subscription price after being idek how many years old) I don't feel like it's a well-put-together game and it just seems more like an attempt at blatant cashgrab to me.
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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 7:44:57 AM
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Philip027 posted...


The critique was that if it's "essential" to multibox a game like that (on top of having to pay a monthly subscription for each account, on top of the game increasing its subscription price after being idek how many years old) I don't feel like it's a well-put-together game and it just seems more like an attempt at blatant cashgrab to me.

It isnt essential to play.
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Philip027
05/24/22 7:49:46 AM
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I'm just going by what you yourself said in post #6. I don't play this game myself.
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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 7:54:21 AM
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Philip027 posted...
I'm just going by what you yourself said in post #6. I don't play this game myself.

At the highest levels. You can play the game just fine on one account. Many people play for years using the free Alpha state.
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Philip027
05/24/22 7:58:01 AM
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At the highest levels.

I know what you said. I'm saying that if that is how the game is built (where you cannot play at the "highest level" without multiboxing), my opinion is that it's not a well-put-together game. The fact that each account just requires you to shell out more money monthly just makes it even more egregious.
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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 8:01:43 AM
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Philip027 posted...

I know what you said. I'm saying that if that is how the game is built (where you cannot play at the "highest level" without multiboxing), my opinion is that it's not a well-put-together game. The fact that each account just requires you to shell out more money monthly just makes it even more egregious.

It doesn't require you to shell out real money to multibox. It can be done for free. Highest level in this game means 5+ years of playing before you can even think of that style of gameplay.

It doesn't cater to players looking for instant gratification.
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Philip027
05/24/22 8:05:14 AM
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It doesn't require you to shell out real money to multibox. It can be done for free.

Then why's everyone pissed?
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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 8:07:35 AM
#38:


Philip027 posted...

Then why's everyone pissed?

Because some of the people who do pay don't want to pay more...
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Philip027
05/24/22 8:09:19 AM
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So that implies there is still a cost involved with playing it "for free", which essentially means it's not actually free.

So, that pretty much brings me right back to post #35.
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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 8:13:05 AM
#40:


There is no cost for playing for free and there is no implication of that.

Playing for free costs nothing.
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Philip027
05/24/22 8:19:43 AM
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So why would people choose to pay something to play this game instead of paying nothing? And why would people suddenly complain about paying more, when they already had the option to pay nothing?
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Jerry_Hellyeah
05/24/22 8:22:41 AM
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Play Warframe.

Absolutely free, 8 years of updates and refinement. Incredible game.

Its better than that MMO youre playing now.

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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 8:23:06 AM
#43:


Philip027 posted...
So why would people choose to pay something to play this game instead of paying nothing? And why would people suddenly complain about paying more, when they already had the option to pay nothing?

Paying unlocks Omega. You can play the game as an Alpha. The other two are self evident.

I get you're playing semantics but you're failing horribly.
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Philip027
05/24/22 8:26:48 AM
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No clue what you're talking about with this Alpha/Omega stuff. Like I said, I don't play this game.

Sounds to me like you're saying that there's some kind of benefit to paying that free players don't get, though. Which, again, brings me back to post #35.

I'm not "playing" anything. You sure do contradict yourself a lot, though.
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ZevLoveDOOM
05/24/22 8:28:48 AM
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zero.
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UnfairRepresent
05/24/22 8:31:20 AM
#46:


$0

But I can see the reason why a fan who has paid Thousands of dollars to Eve Online for years would be upset by this

Isn't WoW free now?

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Spiritlittle
05/24/22 8:32:31 AM
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$12.99 for FF14. Well worth it.

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IXI_Fission_IXI
05/24/22 8:35:43 AM
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Philip027 posted...
Like I said, I don't play this game.

Then why do you have such a strong opinion?

Philip027 posted...

I'm not "playing" anything. You sure do contradict yourself a lot, though.

Point out the contradiction.
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thronedfire2
05/24/22 9:02:24 AM
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Is this topic the first time Phil has heard of EVE online or something?

I thought everyone knew the top players take that game super serious

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