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dan da man 06/10/22 1:33:26 PM #252:	neccis posted... @FaultyCircuitry Your post was the idiotic one. Hormone therapy for people wanting to look more like something else is a luxury. Gotta pay to play has always been the game, did you really not know that? It's real dumb to pretend essential medical treatment isnt essential medical treatment, even for a brainwashed American --- 313's only* true cinema fan* <cite>dan da man posted [p:965699597] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>neccis posted... </cite> <quote>@FaultyCircuitry Your post was the idiotic one. Hormone therapy for people wanting to look more like something else is a luxury. Gotta pay to play has always been the game, did you really not know that?</quote> It's real dumb to pretend essential medical treatment isnt essential medical treatment, even for a brainwashed American </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedRanger 06/10/22 4:05:02 PM #253:	Musourenka posted... Puberty blockers are safe and reversable. @Musourenka Except that weve already seen in this thread thats not completely true. Puberty blockers and hormone therapy can have permanent side effects because youre shutting off the bodys growth process. As has been mentioned, for example, this can affect a males height. Now for somebody like Gunplaygirl this isnt a big deal, as she said. But an 11 year old who starts the process and later decides at 14 that it isnt for them, may have to live with that consequence. Thats why parents need to be involved in the decision making process. Umbreon posted... 200+ posts of a throwaway account ignoring the input of actually trans users. Why is everyone ignoring the trans poster who came into this thread and said if they started the process as a child then they probably would have regretted it? Why does that voice not count? I have been listening to everyone, it seems other people arent. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965703577] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Musourenka posted... </cite> <quote>Puberty blockers are safe and reversable.</quote>@Musourenka Except that weve already seen in this thread thats not completely true. Puberty blockers and hormone therapy can have permanent side effects because youre shutting off the bodys growth process. As has been mentioned, for example, this can affect a males height. Now for somebody like Gunplaygirl this isnt a big deal, as she said. But an 11 year old who starts the process and later decides at 14 that it isnt for them, may have to live with that consequence. Thats why parents need to be involved in the decision making process. Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>200+ posts of a throwaway account ignoring the input of actually trans users.</quote>Why is everyone ignoring the trans poster who came into this thread and said if they started the process as a child then they probably would have regretted it? Why does that voice not count? I have been listening to everyone, it seems other people arent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scintillant 06/10/22 4:10:50 PM #254:	RedRanger posted... I have been listening to everyone, it seems other people arent. Shut the fuck up --- whats cat up to <cite>Scintillant posted [p:965703747] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote> I have been listening to everyone, it seems other people arent.</quote> Shut the fuck up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 06/10/22 4:12:22 PM #255:	>implying that starting puberty at 14 is an issue when historically it was common to start around the age of 16 up until the beginning of the 20th century --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:965703786] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>>implying that starting puberty at 14 is an issue when historically it was common to start around the age of 16 up until the beginning of the 20th century </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaultyCircuitry 06/10/22 4:13:13 PM #256:	Why does the one person who regrets it more important than the massive amount of people it helps? Why should transphobic parents get to inflict their hate on their children by denying them necessary medical care? --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone ~[she/her\|they/them]~ <cite>FaultyCircuitry posted [p:965703804] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Why does the one person who regrets it more important than the massive amount of people it helps? Why should transphobic parents get to inflict their hate on their children by denying them necessary medical care? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedRanger 06/10/22 4:16:07 PM #257:	gunplagirl posted... >implying that starting puberty at 14 is an issue when historically it was common to start around the age of 16 up until the beginning of the 20th century Im not sure what youre referencing. I never implied puberty starts at 14. I listed the age 14 in a few posts because our conversation had been about kids who started at 11 and had been on blockers for a few years. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965703891] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>>implying that starting puberty at 14 is an issue when historically it was common to start around the age of 16 up until the beginning of the 20th century</quote>Im not sure what youre referencing. I never implied puberty starts at 14. I listed the age 14 in a few posts because our conversation had been about kids who started at 11 and had been on blockers for a few years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 4:17:53 PM #258:	RedRanger posted... Why is everyone ignoring the trans poster who came into this thread and said if they started the process as a child then they probably would have regretted it? Oubliettes is not trans --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965703937] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Why is everyone ignoring the trans poster who came into this thread and said if they started the process as a child then they probably would have regretted it?</quote> Oubliettes is not trans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedRanger 06/10/22 4:19:22 PM #260:	FaultyCircuitry posted... Why does the one person who regrets it more important than the massive amount of people it helps? Theyre not more or less important, but several posters here just want to discount them and pretend they dont exist. All Im saying is that those people are out there, and that makes this a complex decision that parents should be apart of. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965703975] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>FaultyCircuitry posted... </cite> <quote>Why does the one person who regrets it more important than the massive amount of people it helps?</quote> Theyre not more or less important, but several posters here just want to discount them and pretend they dont exist. All Im saying is that those people are out there, and that makes this a complex decision that parents should be apart of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaultyCircuitry 06/10/22 4:21:59 PM #261:	FaultyCircuitry posted... Why should transphobic parents get to inflict their hate on their children by denying them necessary medical care? --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone ~[she/her\|they/them]~ <cite>FaultyCircuitry posted [p:965704041] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>FaultyCircuitry posted... </cite> <quote>Why should transphobic parents get to inflict their hate on their children by denying them necessary medical care?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stalolin 06/10/22 4:24:05 PM #263:	Its such an extreme rarity I dont know why this breaks peoples brains so much. --- "We see things not as they are, but as we are." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:965704088] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Its such an extreme rarity I dont know why this breaks peoples brains so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 4:25:34 PM #264:	Oubliettes is a cis man, and he didnt even agree with you. You completely failed to comprehend his post and then assigned him as the voice of trans people youre willing to listen to because you mistakenly thought he agreed with you. Wow. Its such a gross level of disingenuousness. --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965704133] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Oubliettes is a cis man, and he didnt even agree with you. You completely failed to comprehend his post and then assigned him as the voice of trans people youre willing to listen to because you mistakenly thought he agreed with you. Wow. Its such a gross level of disingenuousness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 4:26:36 PM #265:	I think its Tommy --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965704159] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>I think its Tommy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedRanger 06/10/22 4:27:55 PM #267:	FaultyCircuitry posted... Why should transphobic parents get to inflict their hate on their children by denying them necessary medical care? Dont do that. Dont say that every parent whos worried about their 11 year old starting puberty blockers and hormone therapy is trying to inflect their hate on their child. You know thats not true and this is a difficult decision for all parents. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965704195] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>FaultyCircuitry posted... </cite> <quote>Why should transphobic parents get to inflict their hate on their children by denying them necessary medical care?</quote> Dont do that. Dont say that every parent whos worried about their 11 year old starting puberty blockers and hormone therapy is trying to inflect their hate on their child. You know thats not true and this is a difficult decision for all parents. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greyfox747 06/10/22 4:30:54 PM #269:	RedRanger posted... Dont do that. Dont say that every parent whos worried about their 11 year old starting puberty blockers and hormone therapy is trying to inflect their hate on their child. You know thats not true and this is a difficult decision for all parents. Maybe you should try supporting and loving your kids for once then, and give them the medical care that they need instead of crying about how you're the real victim here and how hard this is for you to go through. Maybe try to think about how your child feels. I know that must be hard for you though, since you don't actually care about them that much. Since, you know, you're making this all about you. --- Officially Certified Gamer Girl in 27 states She/her <cite>greyfox747 posted [p:965704272] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Dont do that. Dont say that every parent whos worried about their 11 year old starting puberty blockers and hormone therapy is trying to inflect their hate on their child. You know thats not true and this is a difficult decision for all parents.</quote> Maybe you should try supporting and loving your kids for once then, and give them the medical care that they need instead of crying about how you're the real victim here and how hard this is for you to go through. Maybe try to think about how your child feels. I know that must be hard for you though, since you don't actually care about them that much. Since, you know, you're making this all about you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 4:32:37 PM #270:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Agreed, I think its getting under my skin too because the intent is obviously to sway people to continue thinking this way. Its transparent to people who have spent any amount of time looking into this, or even those who are simply true libertarians, but for some people its probably not that obvious what hes doing. --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965704331] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Agreed, I think its getting under my skin too because the intent is obviously to sway people to continue thinking this way. Its transparent to people who have spent any amount of time looking into this, or even those who are simply true libertarians, but for some people its probably not that obvious what hes doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedRanger 06/10/22 4:33:24 PM #271:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] So now 50% of the people in this thread (131 posters) are trolling because they dont agree with you? Ive been straight forward and honest with every single person here. I believe any adult should be allowed to choose their own path in life. Im just not comfortable giving puberty blockers and hormone therapy to children as young as 10 or 11. If you think that makes me a monster, fine. Im done. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965704357] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> So now 50% of the people in this thread (131 posters) are trolling because they dont agree with you? Ive been straight forward and honest with every single person here. I believe any adult should be allowed to choose their own path in life. Im just not comfortable giving puberty blockers and hormone therapy to children as young as 10 or 11. If you think that makes me a monster, fine. Im done. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 4:34:10 PM #272:	ITS NOT THE PARENTS LIFE how is that difficult to accept? --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965704371] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>ITS NOT THE PARENTS LIFE how is that difficult to accept? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Derwood 06/10/22 4:36:04 PM #274:	My kid wants to do it. I wish we had started it years ago <cite>Derwood posted [p:965704423] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>My kid wants to do it. I wish we had started it years ago </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 06/10/22 4:36:21 PM #275:	RedRanger posted... Im just not comfortable giving puberty blockers and hormone therapy to children as young as 10 or 11. But forcing trans youth through the wrong puberty is fine. --- The reminder of the inevitability of death teaches a person something. Let it be a good lesson. No clue. Homeslice just went bananacakes about it allofa sudden. <cite>GranAures posted [p:965704430] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Im just not comfortable giving puberty blockers and hormone therapy to children as young as 10 or 11.</quote>But forcing trans youth through the wrong puberty is fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedRanger 06/10/22 4:37:48 PM #276:	Derwood posted... My kid wants to do it. I wish we had started it years ago Well, great. Thats a choice you made together as a parent and child. More power to you. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965704465] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite> <quote>My kid wants to do it. I wish we had started it years ago</quote>Well, great. Thats a choice you made together as a parent and child. More power to you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greyfox747 06/10/22 4:40:55 PM #277:	GranAures posted... But forcing trans youth through the wrong puberty is fine. It's an easy thing to rationalize when you're like TC and don't think that trans people are actually people, just a hypothetical scenario that they feel like being cruel about. --- Officially Certified Gamer Girl in 27 states She/her <cite>greyfox747 posted [p:965704551] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>GranAures posted... </cite> <quote>But forcing trans youth through the wrong puberty is fine.</quote>It's an easy thing to rationalize when you're like TC and don't think that trans people are actually people, just a hypothetical scenario that they feel like being cruel about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/10/22 4:40:56 PM #278:	RedRanger posted... Well, great. Thats a choice you made together as a parent and child. More power to you. Nice to see some parents that give a damn about what ails their children --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965704552] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Well, great. Thats a choice you made together as a parent and child. More power to you.</quote>Nice to see some parents that give a damn about what ails their children </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Derwood 06/10/22 4:41:30 PM #279:	RedRanger posted... Well, great. Thats a choice you made together as a parent and child. More power to you. See, you're learning. Now stop making blanket statements for all of us <cite>Derwood posted [p:965704567] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Well, great. Thats a choice you made together as a parent and child. More power to you.</quote> See, you're learning. Now stop making blanket statements for all of us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedRanger 06/10/22 4:43:15 PM #280:	DespondentDeity posted... ITS NOT THE PARENTS LIFE how is that difficult to accept? Were talking about an 11 year old. Parents have a duty of care. They have a responsibility to look at all the medications involved, their potential side effects, and then to determine whats appropriate for their child. Im sorry if you dont like that answer, but thats what being a parent is. --- Recruiting teenagers with attitude! <cite>RedRanger posted [p:965704599] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>DespondentDeity posted... </cite> <quote>ITS NOT THE PARENTS LIFE how is that difficult to accept?</quote>Were talking about an 11 year old. Parents have a duty of care. They have a responsibility to look at all the medications involved, their potential side effects, and then to determine whats appropriate for their child. Im sorry if you dont like that answer, but thats what being a parent is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 4:51:57 PM #281:	RedRanger posted... Were talking about an 11 year old. Parents have a duty of care. They have a responsibility to look at all the medications involved, their potential side effects, and then to determine whats appropriate for their child. Im sorry if you dont like that answer, but thats what being a parent is. No, youre talking about an 11 year old you dont trust to know information about their self. Im talking about a human individual who deserves the absolute highest quality of life possible. --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965704817] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Were talking about an 11 year old. Parents have a duty of care. They have a responsibility to look at all the medications involved, their potential side effects, and then to determine whats appropriate for their child. Im sorry if you dont like that answer, but thats what being a parent is.</quote> No, youre talking about an 11 year old you dont trust to know information about their self. Im talking about a human individual who deserves the absolute highest quality of life possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 06/10/22 4:52:56 PM #282:	I mean, that's around the time they should be getting it, so yes? --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:965704844] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>I mean, that's around the time they should be getting it, so yes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhlavicLanguage 06/10/22 5:26:32 PM #283:	What's there to think about it? It's literally life-saving. Shouldn't be a controversial thing at all. <cite>KhlavicLanguage posted [p:965705783] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>What's there to think about it? It's literally life-saving. Shouldn't be a controversial thing at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 06/10/22 6:31:52 PM #284:	RedRanger posted... Theyre not more or less important, but several posters here just want to discount them and pretend they dont exist. All Im saying is that those people are out there, and that makes this a complex decision that parents should be apart of. That's not all you are saying, as your very first post called into question ALL people taking puberty blockers before 18... interesting how your argument has changed (as you've criticized others for doing) <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:965707440] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Theyre not more or less important, but several posters here just want to discount them and pretend they dont exist. All Im saying is that those people are out there, and that makes this a complex decision that parents should be apart of.</quote> That's not all you are saying, as your very first post called into question ALL people taking puberty blockers before 18... interesting how your argument has changed (as you've criticized others for doing) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heavy_D_Forever 06/10/22 6:34:49 PM #285:	DespondentDeity posted... No, youre talking about an 11 year old you dont trust to know information about their self. I don't trust 11 year olds with major life choices of any kind. They are ELEVEN. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES <cite>Heavy_D_Forever posted [p:965707510] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>DespondentDeity posted... </cite> <quote>No, youre talking about an 11 year old you dont trust to know information about their self.</quote> I don't trust 11 year olds with major life choices of any kind. They are ELEVEN. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaultyCircuitry 06/10/22 6:46:31 PM #286:	Heavy_D_Forever posted... I don't trust 11 year olds with major life choices of any kind. They are ELEVEN. will you shut the fuck up with this shit people know their gender very early on, like 3-4 so plz leave this stupid fucking anti-trans / complete ageist shit at the fucking door we're not tasking 11 year olds with performing maintenence on a nuclear reactor here, we're BELIEVING THAT THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone ~[she/her\|they/them]~ <cite>FaultyCircuitry posted [p:965707826] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Heavy_D_Forever posted... </cite> <quote>I don't trust 11 year olds with major life choices of any kind. They are ELEVEN.</quote> will you shut the fuck up with this shit people know their gender very early on, like 3-4 so plz leave this stupid fucking anti-trans / complete ageist shit at the fucking door we're not tasking 11 year olds with performing maintenence on a nuclear reactor here, we're BELIEVING THAT THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabinogiFan 06/10/22 7:16:19 PM #287:	Geunine question, if being trans isn't a mental thing, what is it? Are there theories as to what causes it? <cite>MabinogiFan posted [p:965708605] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Geunine question, if being trans isn't a mental thing, what is it? Are there theories as to what causes it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
twilightking5 06/10/22 7:22:02 PM #288:	I dont care as long as I don't have to pay for it --- 3ds FC: 0989-2338-4719 <cite>twilightking5 posted [p:965708749] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>I dont care as long as I don't have to pay for it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/10/22 7:25:59 PM #289:	Anti-LGBT people can never tell you at what age they chose to be straight or cis, or the reasoning behind it. Weird. It's almost like people were who they are all along and there is no choice involved --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965708850] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Anti-LGBT people can never tell you at what age they chose to be straight or cis, or the reasoning behind it. Weird. It's almost like people were who they are all along and there is no choice involved </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/10/22 7:26:55 PM #290:	twilightking5 posted... I dont care as long as I don't have to pay for it Pay for just this or any universal healthcare initiative? Do you also not have health insurance? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965708881] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>twilightking5 posted... </cite> <quote>I dont care as long as I don't have to pay for it</quote>Pay for just this or any universal healthcare initiative? Do you also not have health insurance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ozarhok 06/10/22 7:32:14 PM #291:	What's all this about it being life saving surgery? So if you come out as trans and don't get surgery within a certain time you drop dead or something? Educate me --- oops <cite>Ozarhok posted [p:965708998] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>What's all this about it being life saving surgery? So if you come out as trans and don't get surgery within a certain time you drop dead or something? Educate me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/10/22 7:33:59 PM #292:	Ozarhok posted... What's all this about it being life saving surgery? So if you come out as trans and don't get surgery within a certain time you drop dead or something? Do you also believe children shouldn't see a doctor for anxiety or depression because it might be a phase and they aren't guaranteed to commit suicide? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965709032] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Ozarhok posted... </cite> <quote>What's all this about it being life saving surgery? So if you come out as trans and don't get surgery within a certain time you drop dead or something?</quote>Do you also believe children shouldn't see a doctor for anxiety or depression because it might be a phase and they aren't guaranteed to commit suicide? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/10/22 7:38:20 PM #293:	RedRanger posted... Were talking about an 11 year old. Parents have a duty of care. They have a responsibility to look at all the medications involved, their potential side effects, and then to determine whats appropriate for their child. Im sorry if you dont like that answer, but thats what being a parent is. A good parent knows when to shut the fuck up and defer to the experts. A bad, abusive parent gets their child checked out for what's ailing them and then goes "Nah. I disagree with the doctors" and forces their kids to suffer until they're older. It is literally no different than forcing them to endure any other physical or mental anguish. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965709136] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>RedRanger posted... </cite> <quote>Were talking about an 11 year old. Parents have a duty of care. They have a responsibility to look at all the medications involved, their potential side effects, and then to determine whats appropriate for their child. Im sorry if you dont like that answer, but thats what being a parent is.</quote>A good parent knows when to shut the fuck up and defer to the experts. A bad, abusive parent gets their child checked out for what's ailing them and then goes "Nah. I disagree with the doctors" and forces their kids to suffer until they're older. It is literally no different than forcing them to endure any other physical or mental anguish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oubliettes 06/10/22 7:46:17 PM #294:	DespondentDeity posted... Oubliettes is a cis man i wasn't for most of my life, and tbh i don't really identify as anything unless prompted, and even then cis only because it's frankly easier than explaining otherwise. my inner monologue isnt "cis man" and never has been. i was incredibly dysphoric in my youth and spent the majority of my teens and twenties struggling with my gender identity and anorexia/bulimia. for the better part of two decades, the most accurate descriptor for me was probably NB, typically presenting female/agendered, not knowing whether i was gay, straight, man, woman, something in between, or something else entirely. NB wasnt really a widely discussed or explored concept when i was younger, and the only lgbt people in my social circle were a handful of cis gays and lesbians. but most people i knew assumed i was mtf trans. i wore either womens or gender neutral clothing the majority of the time, had hair down to my shoulders, and refused to leave the house without a full face of makeup. dealing with an absolutely horrifying family medical crisis a few years ago, and mounting depression associated with it, i stopped really caring about my appearance whatsoever. gained weight, stopped wearing makeup or tweezing my brows, and grew facial hair for the first time in my life. even after overcoming what i was dealing with, i just didnt care anymore and that peace is nice for a change. but yeah, tc, not on your side here friendo --- http://i.imgur.com/ozVGOuh.png <cite>Oubliettes posted [p:965709326] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>DespondentDeity posted... </cite> <quote>Oubliettes is a cis man</quote> i wasn't for most of my life, and tbh i don't really identify as anything unless prompted, and even then cis only because it's frankly easier than explaining otherwise. my inner monologue isnt "cis man" and never has been. i was incredibly dysphoric in my youth and spent the majority of my teens and twenties struggling with my gender identity and anorexia/bulimia. for the better part of two decades, the most accurate descriptor for me was probably NB, typically presenting female/agendered, not knowing whether i was gay, straight, man, woman, something in between, or something else entirely. NB wasnt really a widely discussed or explored concept when i was younger, and the only lgbt people in my social circle were a handful of cis gays and lesbians. but most people i knew assumed i was mtf trans. i wore either womens or gender neutral clothing the majority of the time, had hair down to my shoulders, and refused to leave the house without a full face of makeup. dealing with an absolutely horrifying family medical crisis a few years ago, and mounting depression associated with it, i stopped really caring about my appearance whatsoever. gained weight, stopped wearing makeup or tweezing my brows, and grew facial hair for the first time in my life. even after overcoming what i was dealing with, i just didnt care anymore and that peace is nice for a change. but yeah, tc, not on your side here friendo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DespondentDeity 06/10/22 8:03:40 PM #295:	Oubliettes posted... i wasn't for most of my life, and tbh i don't really identify as anything unless prompted, and even then cis only because it's frankly easier than explaining otherwise. my inner monologue isnt "cis man" and never has been. i was incredibly dysphoric in my youth and spent the majority of my teens and twenties struggling with my gender identity and anorexia/bulimia. for the better part of two decades, the most accurate descriptor for me was probably NB, typically presenting female/agendered, not knowing whether i was gay, straight, man, woman, something in between, or something else entirely. NB wasnt really a widely discussed or explored concept when i was younger, and the only lgbt people in my social circle were a handful of cis gays and lesbians. but most people i knew assumed i was mtf trans. i wore either womens or gender neutral clothing the majority of the time, had hair down to my shoulders, and refused to leave the house without a full face of makeup. dealing with an absolutely horrifying family medical crisis a few years ago, and mounting depression associated with it, i stopped really caring about my appearance whatsoever. gained weight, stopped wearing makeup or tweezing my brows, and grew facial hair for the first time in my life. even after overcoming what i was dealing with, i just didnt care anymore and that peace is nice for a change. but yeah, tc, not on your side here friendo Awh gotcha, sorry about that. I didnt mean to cause any offense by assuming, not that it reads as though youre offended or anything. I saw your photo in a selfie topic and you were presenting in a masculine way. Theres a combination of other things that factored into that, not really important, I appreciate you taking the time to share that and Im happy to learn more. Its definitely humbling to realize how little can really be gleaned from looking at someone and a few of their statements in isolation. I have a tendency to over apologize so Im trying to focus more on things like it being meaningful that you opened up, I do genuinely appreciate the insight. Im sorry to hear of your familys medical crisis, Im hoping your referencing of it in the past tense means its resolved and hopefully had a positive outcome. do you feel more respected when people use they/them pronouns? --- SHE: In black of night, a die is cast, heavens overflow with stars HER: All is light, all is ash, you must become just as you are <cite>DespondentDeity posted [p:965709736] in How do you... [t:80050875]...</cite> <quote>Oubliettes posted... </cite> <quote>i wasn't for most of my life, and tbh i don't really identify as anything unless prompted, and even then cis only because it's frankly easier than explaining otherwise. my inner monologue isnt "cis man" and never has been. i was incredibly dysphoric in my youth and spent the majority of my teens and twenties struggling with my gender identity and anorexia/bulimia. for the better part of two decades, the most accurate descriptor for me was probably NB, typically presenting female/agendered, not knowing whether i was gay, straight, man, woman, something in between, or something else entirely. NB wasnt really a widely discussed or explored concept when i was younger, and the only lgbt people in my social circle were a handful of cis gays and lesbians. but most people i knew assumed i was mtf trans. i wore either womens or gender neutral clothing the majority of the time, had hair down to my shoulders, and refused to leave the house without a full face of makeup. dealing with an absolutely horrifying family medical crisis a few years ago, and mounting depression associated with it, i stopped really caring about my appearance whatsoever. gained weight, stopped wearing makeup or tweezing my brows, and grew facial hair for the first time in my life. even after overcoming what i was dealing with, i just didnt care anymore and that peace is nice for a change. but yeah, tc, not on your side here friendo</quote> Awh gotcha, sorry about that. I didnt mean to cause any offense by assuming, not that it reads as though youre offended or anything. I saw your photo in a selfie topic and you were presenting in a masculine way. Theres a combination of other things that factored into that, not really important, I appreciate you taking the time to share that and Im happy to learn more. Its definitely humbling to realize how little can really be gleaned from looking at someone and a few of their statements in isolation. I have a tendency to over apologize so Im trying to focus more on things like it being meaningful that you opened up, I do genuinely appreciate the insight. Im sorry to hear of your familys medical crisis, Im hoping your referencing of it in the past tense means its resolved and hopefully had a positive outcome. do you feel more respected when people use they/them pronouns? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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