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kage_53
06/16/22 3:38:44 PM
#102:


If DoJ doesnt charge Trump, they are enabling republicans to attempt a coup again next time.
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DarkRoast
06/16/22 3:40:12 PM
#103:


I find it absolutely absurd and unacceptable that politicians can avoid responsibilities simply by refusing to show up and talk about it. As long as they don't directly answer any of these questions, claim they don't remember, they are let off the hook.

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CableZL
06/16/22 3:44:42 PM
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Judge Luttig:

Mr. Chairman, I'm honored beyond words by your words. I was honored on January 6th 2021. Then also honored beyond words to have been able to come to the aid of Vice President Mike Pence. I prayed that day, just like the Vice President prayed that day. I believe we may have prayed the same prayer to the same God. I prayed that same prayer with my wife this morning before I came into these hearings. I have written, as you said, Chairmain Thompson, that today, almost two years after that fateful day in January 2021, that still Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy. That's not because of what happened on January 6th. It's because to this very day, the former president, his allies, and supporters pledge that in the presidential election of 2024, if the former president or his anointed successor as the Republican party presidential candidate were to lose that election, that they would attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election but succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020.

I don't speak those words lightly. I would have never spoken those words ever in my life except that that's what the former president and his allies are telling us. As I said in that New York Times op ed, wherein I was speaking about the Electoral Count Act of 1887, the former president and his allies are executing that blueprint for 2024 in open and plain view of the American Public. I repeat: I would have never uttered one single one of those words unless the former president and his allies were candidly and proudly speaking those exact words to America. Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to appear here today with these proceedings.

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CADE FOSTER
06/16/22 3:46:09 PM
#106:


kage_53 posted...
If DoJ doesnt charge Trump, they are enabling republicans to attempt a coup again next time.
They are already doing it in new mexico not certifying a democrat win
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MattcheteGuy
06/16/22 3:46:30 PM
#107:


kage_53 posted...
If DoJ doesnt charge Trump, they are enabling republicans to attempt a coup again next time.


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CableZL
06/16/22 3:47:27 PM
#108:


Hearing #3 is over

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Will_VIIII
06/16/22 3:50:02 PM
#109:


CADE FOSTER posted...
They are already doing it in new mexico not certifying a democrat win
More details?

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CableZL
06/16/22 3:51:09 PM
#110:


Also: John Eastman sent an email saying he believed should be on the pardon list.

He, of course, did not get a pardon.

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CableZL
06/16/22 3:56:29 PM
#111:


Will_VIIII posted...
More details?

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-hector-balderas-presidential-new-mexico-2786f37f1c50107fdf7a63fda89ba9a4

This one is pretty crazy. A couple members of Cowboys for Trump are on the election commission in Otero county, including Cuoy Griffin. They don't want to certify the vote.

The case was sent to the New Mexico state supreme court, which ordered the election commission to certify the vote. The GOP brought no evidence and only discredited conspiracy theories about Dominion voting machines to the case.

Cuoy Griffin was found guilty back in March of trespassing on January 6th and is due to be sentenced soon, I believe.

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DarthAragorn
06/16/22 3:57:52 PM
#112:


this shit needs to end in life sentences and/or executions

set a precedent that illegal attempts to grab power aren't to be tolerated whatsoever

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CableZL
06/16/22 4:01:42 PM
#113:


The next hearing is set for Tuesday at 1PM US Eastern. I'll be working during that time, but I'll try to cover as much as I can.

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Tom Clark
06/16/22 4:02:20 PM
#114:


CableZL posted...
The next hearing is set for Tuesday at 1PM US Eastern. I'll be working during that time, but I'll try to cover as much as I can.

You've done a great job with this topic, thank you.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
06/16/22 4:04:20 PM
#115:


Tom Clark posted...
You've done a great job with this topic, thank you.
I agree, thank you

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Were_Wyrm
06/16/22 4:12:00 PM
#116:


So people were calling Pence a traitor and calling for his head because he refused to not certify the election, before he certified the election? How did these people know he was going to go against Trump and certify if this whole scheme was discussed behind closed doors?

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Vegy
06/16/22 4:20:54 PM
#117:


Good episode, minus da slow talking fellow but overall i liked it

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CADE FOSTER
06/16/22 4:22:28 PM
#118:


How sad is it we were a butt hair if Pence had just said fuck it from being a fascist dictator country
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CableZL
06/16/22 4:28:08 PM
#119:


Were_Wyrm posted...
So people were calling Pence a traitor and calling for his head because he refused to not certify the election, before he certified the election? How did these people know he was going to go against Trump and certify if this whole scheme was discussed behind closed doors?

Trump tweeted out the fact that Mike Pence refused to certify. The rioters were reading his tweets aloud on bullhorns. That's when the rioters started to say "Pence caved," "Pence is a traitor," "Bring out Pence," "Hang Mike Pence," etc.

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CableZL
06/16/22 4:37:35 PM
#120:


The committee also showed the URL for their tip line at the end. They probably already have the info by now, but I submitted a tip that Rep Mo. Brooks was wearing body armor on January 6th because he knew something bad was about to happen.

I'd be interesting in finding out how he knew.

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CableZL
06/16/22 5:35:08 PM
#121:


In hindsight, I think Judge Luttig was being so long winded and speaking so slowly because he understood the historical significance these hearings have. This will likely be in history books forever unless Republicans ban them for teaching this part of history. I guess it makes sense that he would want a typical judge's opinion to be part of the historical record.

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darkmaian23
06/16/22 6:42:36 PM
#122:


CableZL posted...
That's not true. The committee will be sending all of their evidence to the DoJ in September,
That's way too slow with midterms coming up.
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CableZL
06/16/22 6:48:12 PM
#124:


darkmaian23 posted...
That's way too slow with midterms coming up.
Yeah, I think they should just go ahead and send all of their evidence now... But it seems they may still be investigating things.

  1. It appears Ginni Thomas is gonna speak with the January 6th committee: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3526587-ginni-thomas-i-cant-wait-to-talk-to-jan-6-committee-will-clear-up-misconceptions/
  2. The DoJ has requested transcripts from all of the January 6th committee's interviews because there appears to be a clear overlap with their current prosecutions: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-says-jan-6-committee-interview-transcripts-critical-rcna33995


So I hope they go ahead and share all of their transcripts now.

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CrimsonAngel
06/16/22 6:49:14 PM
#125:


ScazarMeltex posted...
It should also be noted that anyone who does get convicted for their role in the coup attempt will just get a pardon from the next GOP president. That includes the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys.
I don't think the oathkeepers or proud boys would get pardons. Republicans don't care enough about their minions to bother.

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CableZL
06/16/22 6:57:33 PM
#128:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Aren't the seditious conspiracy charges federal, though?

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Medussa
06/16/22 7:08:14 PM
#129:


ScazarMeltex posted...
It should also be noted that anyone who does get convicted for their role in the coup attempt will just get a pardon from the next GOP president. That includes the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys.

as if we need any more reasons to make sure there are no more GOP presidents.

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CableZL
06/16/22 7:11:31 PM
#130:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/1/AABjoOAADWUv.jpg

This is the picture they showed of Mike Pence in a secure location at the capitol as he was looking at the video Trump released on Twitter praising the rioters.

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fire_bolt
06/16/22 9:04:14 PM
#132:


CableZL posted...
Jacobs: When Pence came back in the room after the call, Pence was "Steely, determined, grim."

CableZL posted...
Greg Jacobs on Mike Pence's refusal to leave:
* Secret service directed us to get in the cars, so I got out of the car that I had gotten into. I understood that the VP ahd refused to get into the car. The head of his secret service detail had said "I assure you we're not going to drive out of the building without our permission."
* Pence: Tim, I know you, I trust you, but you're not the one behind the wheel.

Pence did not want the world to see the vice president of the United States fleeing the capitol. He didn't want the rioters to have the satisfaction of disrupting the proceedings beyond the day on which they were supposed to happen.


Fuck, suddenly I have an iota of respect for Pence. He might be a scumsucking shitstain but maybe he at least has some honor

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DarkRoast
06/17/22 10:12:17 AM
#133:


For what it's worth, Pence had basically no good options. Low-key defying Trump was the safest option both for himself and likely the riot as well.

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CableZL
06/17/22 10:14:23 AM
#134:


Just realized I switched from "Greg Jacob" to "Greg Jacobs" somehow ITT. Greg Jacob is the correct name.

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