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SaltyWet 06/19/22 1:09:09 AM #51:	Smallville posted... I really like big cats too. What do you think of the future of big cats in the wild? specifically the bengal , siberian and african lion? Prob the african lion's wild numbers are easily the largest. Do you think they may disappear from the wild in the next 50 yrs or so? They will not dissapear in so short a time. But their presence outside of protected areas keeps plummeting. Some estimates put their numbers at 30,000 down from 200,000 decades ago. The Amur tiger will be fine. There is a greater awareness of their plight than pretty much any other animal. Also, 95% of their population is contiguous, which reduces inbreeding. The Bengal tiger is also on the upswing. Problem is they are in reproductively isolated units. Depending on how serious India is about creating wildlife corridors, we will see which way their fortunes swing. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965930985] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>I really like big cats too. What do you think of the future of big cats in the wild? specifically the bengal , siberian and african lion? Prob the african lion's wild numbers are easily the largest. Do you think they may disappear from the wild in the next 50 yrs or so?</quote> They will not dissapear in so short a time. But their presence outside of protected areas keeps plummeting. Some estimates put their numbers at 30,000 down from 200,000 decades ago. The Amur tiger will be fine. There is a greater awareness of their plight than pretty much any other animal. Also, 95% of their population is contiguous, which reduces inbreeding. The Bengal tiger is also on the upswing. Problem is they are in reproductively isolated units. Depending on how serious India is about creating wildlife corridors, we will see which way their fortunes swing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 1:26:51 AM #52:	you said that you believe big cats evolved to hunt large bovines in an earlier post....so is the diet of the african lion, mostly cape buffalo? The bengal tiger's main diet is guar? But, iirc the main diet of the siberian is mostly wild boar. What have you read on this? --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965931229] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>you said that you believe big cats evolved to hunt large bovines in an earlier post....so is the diet of the african lion, mostly cape buffalo? The bengal tiger's main diet is guar? But, iirc the main diet of the siberian is mostly wild boar. What have you read on this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/19/22 1:32:37 AM #53:	Is there a cat more badass than a leopard? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:965931298] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Is there a cat more badass than a leopard? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 1:33:40 AM #54:	Smallville posted... you said that you believe big cats evolved to hunt large bovines in an earlier post....so is the diet of the african lion, mostly cape buffalo? The bengal tiger's main diet is guar? But, iirc the main diet of the siberian is mostly wild boar. What have you read on this? I said it's possible. I'm basing that on the fact that big cats need big animals to survive, and those big prey animals are around in numbers that can support a self-sufficient big cat population. The gaur is an example where their only natural predator is the tiger. The smaller leopard could never hunt them, but their niche is animals like chital deer, which are also about the biggest prey animal where their diets overlap with tigers. Elephants are massive, but there aren't enough of them to support a predator that preys on them. Last time that happened was the ice age and pretty much all those massive mammals are gone now. The siberian tiger can prey on smaller animals while retaining a large body size. I have several theories on this: This subspecies is large because of bergman's rule, but they are not larger than bengal tigers possibly because they are limited by prey availability At least in the winter, their prey lasts a lot longer (they don't putrefy like a carcass would in India for instance) The lion is an anomaly in the big cat family. They can kill large prey because they hunt in prides. Also they live with huge numbers of other carnivores like hyenas and leopards from whom they can usurp prey. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965931309] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>you said that you believe big cats evolved to hunt large bovines in an earlier post....so is the diet of the african lion, mostly cape buffalo? The bengal tiger's main diet is guar? But, iirc the main diet of the siberian is mostly wild boar. What have you read on this?</quote> I said it's possible. I'm basing that on the fact that big cats need big animals to survive, and those big prey animals are around in numbers that can support a self-sufficient big cat population. The gaur is an example where their only natural predator is the tiger. The smaller leopard could never hunt them, but their niche is animals like chital deer, which are also about the biggest prey animal where their diets overlap with tigers. Elephants are massive, but there aren't enough of them to support a predator that preys on them. Last time that happened was the ice age and pretty much all those massive mammals are gone now. The siberian tiger can prey on smaller animals while retaining a large body size. I have several theories on this: This subspecies is large because of bergman's rule, but they are not larger than bengal tigers possibly because they are limited by prey availability At least in the winter, their prey lasts a lot longer (they don't putrefy like a carcass would in India for instance) The lion is an anomaly in the big cat family. They can kill large prey because they hunt in prides. Also they live with huge numbers of other carnivores like hyenas and leopards from whom they can usurp prey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 1:33:55 AM #55:	Solid Snake07 posted... Is there a cat more badass than a leopard? They are pretty badass. I think not. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965931312] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Is there a cat more badass than a leopard?</quote> They are pretty badass. I think not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 1:38:54 AM #56:	SaltyWet posted... I said it's possible. I'm basing that on the fact that big cats need big animals to survive, and those big prey animals are around in numbers that can support a self-sufficient big cat population. The gaur is an example where their only natural predator is the tiger. The smaller leopard could never hunt them, but their niche is animals like chital deer, which are also about the biggest prey animal where their diets overlap with tigers. Elephants are massive, but there aren't enough of them to support a predator that preys on them. Last time that happened was the ice age and pretty much all those massive mammals are gone now. The siberian tiger can prey on smaller animals while retaining a large body size. I have several theories on this: This subspecies is large because of bergman's rule, but they are not larger than bengal tigers possibly because they are limited by prey availability At least in the winter, their prey lasts a lot longer (they don't putrefy like a carcass would in India for instance) The lion is an anomaly in the big cat family. They can kill large prey because they hunt in prides. Also they live with huge numbers of other carnivores like hyenas and leopards from whom they can usurp prey. yeah that might make sense. siberian tiger's size in the wild being limited by the abundance of prey. Iirc most of the largest big cats in captivity have been male siberian tigers. They can probably get enough food in captivity to grow very large. Saw a youtube video with a 700 lb siberian and he carried the weight well, but the 600 lb male lion was very overweight. the siberian just had a bigger frame to handle that weight. --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965931377] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>I said it's possible. I'm basing that on the fact that big cats need big animals to survive, and those big prey animals are around in numbers that can support a self-sufficient big cat population. The gaur is an example where their only natural predator is the tiger. The smaller leopard could never hunt them, but their niche is animals like chital deer, which are also about the biggest prey animal where their diets overlap with tigers. Elephants are massive, but there aren't enough of them to support a predator that preys on them. Last time that happened was the ice age and pretty much all those massive mammals are gone now. The siberian tiger can prey on smaller animals while retaining a large body size. I have several theories on this: This subspecies is large because of bergman's rule, but they are not larger than bengal tigers possibly because they are limited by prey availability At least in the winter, their prey lasts a lot longer (they don't putrefy like a carcass would in India for instance) The lion is an anomaly in the big cat family. They can kill large prey because they hunt in prides. Also they live with huge numbers of other carnivores like hyenas and leopards from whom they can usurp prey.</quote>yeah that might make sense. siberian tiger's size in the wild being limited by the abundance of prey. Iirc most of the largest big cats in captivity have been male siberian tigers. They can probably get enough food in captivity to grow very large. Saw a youtube video with a 700 lb siberian and he carried the weight well, but the 600 lb male lion was very overweight. the siberian just had a bigger frame to handle that weight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/19/22 1:44:24 AM #57:	SaltyWet posted... They are pretty badass. I think not. Actually to make a minor correction I was thinking of the jaguar. Very similar but I think Jaguars are a bit more stocky and stronger than their Asian and African cousins. Absolutely fascinating, impressive, and terrifying animals though --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:965931459] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>They are pretty badass. I think not.</quote> Actually to make a minor correction I was thinking of the jaguar. Very similar but I think Jaguars are a bit more stocky and stronger than their Asian and African cousins. Absolutely fascinating, impressive, and terrifying animals though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 1:45:14 AM #58:	Btw, tc, do you know the user dolomedes? iirc he's also one of the biggest nature guys on this site. --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965931471] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Btw, tc, do you know the user dolomedes? iirc he's also one of the biggest nature guys on this site. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 1:47:01 AM #59:	Solid Snake07 posted... Actually to make a minor correction I was thinking of the jaguar. Very similar but I think Jaguars are a bit more stocky and stronger than their Asian and African cousins. Absolutely fascinating, impressive, and terrifying animals though They are definitely stocky but not stronger. Smallville posted... Btw, tc, do you know the user dolomedes? iirc he's also one of the biggest nature guys on this site. I've heard of him. That's about it. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965931501] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually to make a minor correction I was thinking of the jaguar. Very similar but I think Jaguars are a bit more stocky and stronger than their Asian and African cousins. Absolutely fascinating, impressive, and terrifying animals though</quote> They are definitely stocky but not stronger. Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>Btw, tc, do you know the user dolomedes? iirc he's also one of the biggest nature guys on this site.</quote>I've heard of him. That's about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 06/19/22 1:51:18 AM #60:	SaltyWet posted... They are definitely stocky but not stronger. Really? I mean I didn't think the difference was massive but Jaguars are typically bigger. I just assumed that would probably translate to stronger. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:965931566] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>They are definitely stocky but not stronger.</quote> Really? I mean I didn't think the difference was massive but Jaguars are typically bigger. I just assumed that would probably translate to stronger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 1:54:50 AM #61:	Solid Snake07 posted... Really? I mean I didn't think the difference was massive but Jaguars are typically bigger. I just assumed that would probably translate to stronger. I need sleep. I thought you were referring to jaguars being bigger than lion sand tigers lololol --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965931633] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Really? I mean I didn't think the difference was massive but Jaguars are typically bigger. I just assumed that would probably translate to stronger.</quote> I need sleep. I thought you were referring to jaguars being bigger than lion sand tigers lololol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 2:05:08 AM #62:	Smallville posted... yeah that might make sense. siberian tiger's size in the wild being limited by the abundance of prey. Iirc most of the largest big cats in captivity have been male siberian tigers. They can probably get enough food in captivity to grow very large. Saw a youtube video with a 700 lb siberian and he carried the weight well, but the 600 lb male lion was very overweight. the siberian just had a bigger frame to handle that weight. oh yeah, tc, you forgot to respond to this one. At least i think you forgot to respond to this one --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965931797] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>yeah that might make sense. siberian tiger's size in the wild being limited by the abundance of prey. Iirc most of the largest big cats in captivity have been male siberian tigers. They can probably get enough food in captivity to grow very large. Saw a youtube video with a 700 lb siberian and he carried the weight well, but the 600 lb male lion was very overweight. the siberian just had a bigger frame to handle that weight.</quote>oh yeah, tc, you forgot to respond to this one. At least i think you forgot to respond to this one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 2:05:25 AM #63:	Smallville posted... oh yeah, tc, you forgot to respond to this one. At least i think you forgot to respond to this one What's the question? --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965931800] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>oh yeah, tc, you forgot to respond to this one. At least i think you forgot to respond to this one</quote>What's the question? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 2:30:03 AM #64:	SaltyWet posted... What's the question? not really question, just wanted to know your thoughts on that post etc......... --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965932111] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>What's the question?</quote>not really question, just wanted to know your thoughts on that post etc......... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyReborn 06/19/22 2:38:26 AM #65:	Is the snow leapord population going to be ok? --- BotW board and Sequel board town drunk now and forever <cite>RustyReborn posted [p:965932200] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Is the snow leapord population going to be ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 2:41:35 AM #66:	Smallville posted... not really question, just wanted to know your thoughts on that post etc......... i have no thoughts except many big cat weights are exaggerated RustyReborn posted... Is the snow leapord population going to be ok? I hope so --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965932231] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>not really question, just wanted to know your thoughts on that post etc.........</quote> i have no thoughts except many big cat weights are exaggerated RustyReborn posted... </cite> <quote>Is the snow leapord population going to be ok?</quote> I hope so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 06/19/22 2:48:08 AM #67:	Could the largest cat beat the largest dog in a death battle? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Middle hope posted [p:965932283] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Could the largest cat beat the largest dog in a death battle? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaltyWet 06/19/22 9:39:29 AM #69:	Middle hope posted... Could the largest cat beat the largest dog in a death battle? Amur tigers are known to suppress entire populations of gray wolves so probably [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Go away, troll --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965936068] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>Could the largest cat beat the largest dog in a death battle?</quote> Amur tigers are known to suppress entire populations of gray wolves so probably <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Go away, troll </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chadwick69 06/19/22 9:41:20 AM #70:	Tell me what you know about ligers --- Xe/Xim <cite>Chadwick69 posted [p:965936096] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Tell me what you know about ligers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 9:44:14 AM #71:	Chadwick69 posted... Tell me what you know about ligers very little --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965936145] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Chadwick69 posted... </cite> <quote>Tell me what you know about ligers</quote> very little </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaltyWet 06/19/22 10:22:26 PM #73:	Bored again --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965951389] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Bored again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 06/19/22 10:25:00 PM #74:	What's the craziest man-eating big cat story you have? --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:965951436] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>What's the craziest man-eating big cat story you have? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 10:46:39 PM #75:	GeraldDarko posted... What's the craziest man-eating big cat story you have? The Tsavo lions who I do not care to summarize now. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965951807] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>GeraldDarko posted... </cite> <quote>What's the craziest man-eating big cat story you have?</quote> The Tsavo lions who I do not care to summarize now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 10:48:50 PM #76:	SaltyWet posted... The Tsavo lions who I do not care to summarize now. i read that most big cats do not like the taste of human flesh, is that true? unlike like a crocodile which would probably eat a human and it wouldn't matter to it --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965951838] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>The Tsavo lions who I do not care to summarize now.</quote>i read that most big cats do not like the taste of human flesh, is that true? unlike like a crocodile which would probably eat a human and it wouldn't matter to it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 10:50:12 PM #77:	Smallville posted... i read that most big cats do not like the taste of human flesh, is that true? unlike like a crocodile which would probably eat a human and it wouldn't matter to it There is in fact, evidence that they develop a liking for it after tasting it. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965951871] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>i read that most big cats do not like the taste of human flesh, is that true? unlike like a crocodile which would probably eat a human and it wouldn't matter to it</quote> There is in fact, evidence that they develop a liking for it after tasting it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 06/19/22 10:51:33 PM #78:	really? tigers more or lions? prob those 2, what other cats are big enough to prey on humans? --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ <cite>Smallville posted [p:965951903] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>really? tigers more or lions? prob those 2, what other cats are big enough to prey on humans? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 06/19/22 11:02:58 PM #79:	SaltyWet posted... The Tsavo lions who I do not care to summarize now. Is that the case that Val Kilmer movie is based on? That was a dope movie. --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:965952092] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>SaltyWet posted... </cite> <quote>The Tsavo lions who I do not care to summarize now.</quote>Is that the case that Val Kilmer movie is based on? That was a dope movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/19/22 11:08:53 PM #80:	Smallville posted... really? tigers more or lions? prob those 2, what other cats are big enough to prey on humans? All of them, along with leopards. Jaguars don't prey on humans. GeraldDarko posted... Is that the case that Val Kilmer movie is based on? That was a dope movie. I don't know who Val Kilmer is. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965952194] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Smallville posted... </cite> <quote>really? tigers more or lions? prob those 2, what other cats are big enough to prey on humans?</quote> All of them, along with leopards. Jaguars don't prey on humans. GeraldDarko posted... </cite> <quote>Is that the case that Val Kilmer movie is based on? That was a dope movie.</quote> I don't know who Val Kilmer is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeraldDarko 06/19/22 11:18:30 PM #81:	It is. I'm guessing the actual account is pretty different, but I liked the movie. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_and_the_Darkness --- Carpe petat <cite>GeraldDarko posted [p:965952342] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>It is. I'm guessing the actual account is pretty different, but I liked the movie. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_and_the_Darkness </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 06/21/22 9:55:07 AM #82:	I'm sure none of the big cats make for good pets, but if one breed had to be chosen, which would you choose as a pet? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:965985430] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure none of the big cats make for good pets, but if one breed had to be chosen, which would you choose as a pet? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/21/22 11:02:56 AM #83:	Ruvan22 posted... I'm sure none of the big cats make for good pets, but if one breed had to be chosen, which would you choose as a pet? I havent thought about this but probably the Arabian leopard as they are the smallest big cat. --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:965986773] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sure none of the big cats make for good pets, but if one breed had to be chosen, which would you choose as a pet?</quote> I havent thought about this but probably the Arabian leopard as they are the smallest big cat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaltyWet 06/23/22 12:41:33 PM #84:	Meaning they have the smallest food bill --- FlowerBridge <cite>SaltyWet posted [p:966042130] in Ask me any... [t:80062950]...</cite> <quote>Meaning they have the smallest food bill </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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