Current Events > Should Lia Thomas be allowed to compete against women?

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Easiest solution would be to just abolish the gender segregation altogether and instead divide by a more-relevant factor

like sex, for instance

"gender" segregation in sports that I was talking about really is more like sex segregation in practice

Easiest solution would be to just abolish the gender segregation altogether and instead divide by a more-relevant factor (which may vary depending on the exact sport in question, and in some cases may even be "don't segregate at all").

like sex, for instance

Remove all barriers.

No sex, weight or age classes. Let the cream rise to the top.

Sometimes I wonder if TC worships Hitler as a Christ figure.

So basically kill all women's sport at any competitive level, and have all strength and fighting sports be dominated by giant fat men

I get the point of arguing this way but the end consequence is even worse than whatever fairness issue it is supposed to resolve

So Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are trash because they can't keep up with the heavyweights lol

i don't think sports are somehow sacred, but there is literally no physically competitive situation where pitting a female against a male wouldn't be unfair

Should a woman compete against women? Sounds like an easy yes to me.

I am just going to wait for gunpla and her small team of extremists to come in here and argue this. This topic wont get good til they get in here spouting their hatred.

edit: I voted no, but I do think that Lia should be able to compete in a division where she does not have an advantage.

Me: trans women are women
You: grrrrr EXTREMIST YOU ARE SO HATEFUL

right, and seperating the two sexes into different competitive categories because of the inherent biological advantages males have over females is the "more-relevant factor"

i don't think sports are somehow sacred, but there is literally no physically competitive situation where pitting a female against a male wouldn't be unfair

Unless the male is not a professional, then theres some leeway.

I am pretty beefy but lmao dont ever make me fight a female MMA fighter.

If you have them in the same weight class, I think some women would do some damage to men in MMA...

This topic should easily out all that people that

a) don't watch or have never competed in sports

and

b) aren't living in reality.

Highly, highly unlikely.

I disagree--I wish we could find out...

You disagree based on what?

I am just going to wait for gunpla and her small team of extremists to come in here and argue this. This topic wont get good til they get in here spouting their hatred.

edit: I voted no, but I do think that Lia should be able to compete in a division where she does not have an advantage.

Yes, anyone saying no or declaring that they have "nuanced thoughts about bigotry" should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

Can't tell if serious or not but I see quite a few comments like this on this board. I still don't understand how you can't see the problem for competitive sports and why you seem to have zero empathy for women that compete or cant see their perspective.

I have all the respect for trans women and respect whatever decision they make but there isn't much logic in having them compete against biological women. When you take the top level male athletes and compare against the top level female athletes the differences are drastic.

Looks like there is a pretty large silent majority on this board

I too can not wait until gunpla "Men should become women so they can get girlfriends" girl comes into this topic with her usual vitriol.

I didn't think gunpla would endorse the Incel to Trans Pipeline.

When you take the top level male athletes and compare against the top level female athletes the differences are drastic.

You disagree based on what?

Thats what I want to know. A skilled little man will beat an untrained, unskilled big man. A skilled big man will beat a skilled little man. A skilled male in the same weight class as a skilled female would destroy her, you can tell who never watches combat sports in these threads.

I've seen, in real life, Thai Kickboxer chicks take down much bigger dudes let alone guys their own size. Why do you think it's highly unlikely?

You're right--I've never once seen a man fighting a woman on a professional televised sports broadcast. Please show me where you're watching this or, you know, at the very least tell me why you think a skilled man would definitely beat a skilled woman of equal weight...

"Biological women" is such a cringe thing to say

Are you saying Lia Thomas is the same as a top level male athlete?