Poll of the Day > 10 Year Old who gets Pregnant has to cross State lines for a you know what...

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https://news.yahoo.com/10-old-forced-cross-state-014401071.html

Due to the overturning of you know what...didn't even know they could get pregnant at that age

Conservatives hate it when people have rights

I wonder what the opinion would be of those politicians who forbade it in her state, on a situation like this.

Would really reveal their (potentially lack of) humanity to me.

Biggest shock to me isn't that this happened so soon after Roe was overturned.
It's that Indiana is less far-right nutso than Ohio.
WTF happened to that state? It used to be purple!

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

I wonder what the opinion would be of those politicians who forbade it in her state, on a situation like this.

Would really reveal their (potentially lack of) humanity to me.

The politicians all need to have a mic shoved in their faces and asked that question.
Mike Huckabee used to grift people as a "compassionate conservative" but then defended a young girl in a South American country being forced to give birth to her *magical-R-word-that-I-can't-say* (hi, mods!) baby. The ensuing outrage completely killed his political career.

pionear posted...

https://news.yahoo.com/10-old-forced-cross-state-014401071.html

Due to the overturning of you know what...didn't even know they could get pregnant at that age

This is why men shouldn't make policy for women's health issues lol

There have been 5 year olds that had hormonal disorders raped by their fathers and uncles that were forced to give birth

Girls can get their periods very young. I got mine at 10. That meant I could have gotten pregnant.

I dont know how anyone can be surprised about what is happening. Half the country had trigger laws in place to effectively ban abortion the moment Roe was overturned, thats been known for decades.

VampireCoyote posted...

I dont know how anyone can be surprised about what is happening. Half the country had trigger laws in place to effectively ban abortion the moment Roe was overturned, thats been known for decades.

Expecting "regular" people to do evil the moment they are allowed does not sound like the healthiest mindset to me.

A 10 year old girl needing an abortion should always, without exception, result in an arrest. The USA is so fucked up that the girl is the one most likely to be arrested.

streamofthesky posted...

Biggest shock to me isn't that this happened so soon after Roe was overturned.
It's that Indiana is less far-right nutso than Ohio.
WTF happened to that state? It used to be purple!

It's not. Ohio just had a trigger law so they could ban abortion right away. Indiana is chomping at the bit to pass their own law and should have abortion banned in short order. But thanks to the demographics of Ohio, it's likely shifted to a reliably red state and essentially turned into another Indiana.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Expecting "regular" people to do evil the moment they are allowed does not sound like the healthiest mindset to me.

they literally have been announcing what they would do for decades

regular people put these people into office and supported all of this

to remain ignorant of that in america is not only unhealthy, but at a certain point it becomes complicit

sveksii posted...

It's not. Ohio just had a trigger law so they could ban abortion right away. Indiana is chomping at the bit to pass their own law and should have abortion banned in short order. But thanks to the demographics of Ohio, it's likely shifted to a reliably red state and essentially turned into another Indiana.

Ok. But Indiana did NOT have such a trigger law. And over a dozen red states had them, it wasn't some novel concept. How did it even get put in place to begin with in Ohio and not Indiana w/o Ohio's GOP being more extreme than even Indiana's?
So that means either Ohio truly is as extreme or more than Indiana now, or the GOP there wildly overstepped the bounds of their voters and they should pay for it dearly this fall.
Guess it's up to the voters there to confirm if Ohio is a pro-child pregnancy shit hole or not. The rest of us are watching. Even Alabama said no to Roy Moore. Are you Ohioans really worse than Alabama?

faramir77 posted...

A 10 year old girl needing an abortion should always, without exception, result in an arrest. The USA is so fucked up that the girl is the one most likely to be arrested.

It was about to say this is assuming the person I got her pregnant was a legal adult, but it's very likely it was another minor since we would have probably heard about it in the news story because that's a pretty big controversial story.

But then you go saying that the girl would probably be arrested? As far as I know it's not illegal to cross state lines to get an abortion. Even if it was she still a minor and wouldn't it be held legally responsible because I doubt she went on this trip herself I'm sure one of her parents drove her.

Carbon_Deoxxys posted...

It was about to say this is assuming the person I got her pregnant was a legal adult, but it's very likely it was another minor since we would have probably heard about it in the news story because that's a pretty big controversial story.

its really obnoxious when people try to play internet sleuth like this

if details havent been released then you dont fucking know, leave it at that

VampireCoyote posted...

Conservatives hate it when people have rights

I know you're saying this about conservatives who hold power since they make the laws but a lot of us have family who are conservative and never express this

Carbon_Deoxxys posted...

I know you're saying this about conservatives who hold power since they make the laws but a lot of us have family who are conservative and never express this

wow golly I dont give a fuck

Carbon_Deoxxys posted...

Oh fuck off Mead.
I've done nothing but defend your ass when people were coming at you the last few months and now you're coming at me for simply making an observation and posting my observations on a discussion forum?

Im not coming after you Im calling out what I think is a shit take that isnt needed at all, if you cant handle a response then dont post

Republicans are evil.

VampireCoyote posted...

to remain ignorant of that in america is not only unhealthy, but at a certain point it becomes complicit

Luckily I am not in the US.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Luckily I am not in the US.

no one implied you are

or cares

VampireCoyote posted...

Conservatives hate it when people have rights

Unless it's the right to carry a weapon easily able to commit mass murder with.

Carbon_Deoxxys posted...

I know you're saying this about conservatives who hold power since they make the laws but a lot of us have family who are conservative and never express this

But they keep voting for them.

How did the... fertilization... come up at a tender age? Too soon without a given circumstance.

Buckle up, ladies and germs, because the Supreme Court is gonna make things even worse

Zareth posted...

Buckle up, ladies and germs, because the Supreme Court is gonna make things even worse

I feel as though the fake court should be referred to as "supreme court" with quotes from now on.

That court needs to be demolished down to the last brick

change never happens by asking, and these problems wont be solved with votes

They're about to hear a case that could let state legislatures have full power over deciding electoral votes. Literally making voting worthless and destroying democracy.

Theres a reason they have snipers positioned up top regularly now, they know exactly what theyre doing and they dont care what people think

the slow moving coup is ongoing

Zareth posted...

Buckle up, ladies and germs, because the Supreme Court is gonna make things even worse

What could even be worse? Reintroducing the Marital R-License?

BlackScythe0 posted...

I feel as though the fake court should be referred to as "supreme court" with quotes from now on.

SCROTUS

VampireCoyote posted...

Theres a reason they have snipers positioned up top regularly now, they know exactly what theyre doing and they dont care what people think

the slow moving coup is ongoing

What's crazy is, it's the executive branch that controls the military and is in charge of enforcing SC edicts. Biden wants to maintain normalcy whilst the right is happily feeding it into the wood chipper.
If the SC keeps tyrannically going against the will of the people to the point they've had enough, I hope Biden doesn't choose killing citizens over letting the SC face the consequences of their actions.
Something something tree of liberty, something something.

BlackScythe0 posted...

I feel as though the fake court should be referred to as "supreme court" with quotes from now on.

I definitely refer to them as "justices" now

I mean this is going to happen when dumb rulings happen.

VampireCoyote posted...

no one implied you are

There was an implication (and a bit of an accusation) in the line I quoted.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

There was an implication (and a bit of an accusation) in the line I quoted.

i already knew you dont live in the US dude youve posted here for a long time and have mentioned it before

which is literally why I referred to americans, and not you

Hejiru posted...

But they keep voting for them.

Eeyup. It really sucks that the two-party system means you can't vote for tax breaks without also voting for this, but that's the reality of the matter: Anyone who voted for Trump voted for this. This is the consequence of that action, and no amount of "I didn't ask for it" changes that.

@Carbon_Deoxxys

sorry for being mean

Everyone knows who should be getting the blame

VampireCoyote posted...

@Carbon_Deoxxys

sorry for being mean

Thanks ily
@VampireCoyote

Teh SCROTUS

Problem with abortion is the super religious people and the fact most people don't know when "Life" actually begins.

I am 100% all for abortion and it being the sole choice of the woman. However I can see how the other people feel the way they do. The fact is, in their beliefs it is murder, plain and simple. And unless that religious aspect, or the fact of when "life" really begins, we will always have people fight to ban abortions.

You think that's bad, just wait until the pro-lifers (all Republicans) pass a national abortion ban and 10 year olds will just give birth period.

I think the youngest documented live birth was at 11.

Oh yeah, and there's going to be a huge rise in inbred people when that happens.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Expecting "regular" people to do evil the moment they are allowed does not sound like the healthiest mindset to me.

Morty! Morty, we're on a purge planet!

VampireCoyote posted...

they literally have been announcing what they would do for decades

regular people put these people into office and supported all of this

to remain ignorant of that in america is not only unhealthy, but at a certain point it becomes complicit

Carbon_Deoxxys posted...

It was about to say this is assuming the person I got her pregnant was a legal adult, but it's very likely it was another minor since we would have probably heard about it in the news story because that's a pretty big controversial story.

But then you go saying that the girl would probably be arrested? As far as I know it's not illegal to cross state lines to get an abortion. Even if it was she still a minor and wouldn't it be held legally responsible because I doubt she went on this trip herself I'm sure one of her parents drove her.

Privacy considerations may limit publication of the accused's name, especially if the accused is a brother in good standing.

Facilitation of a crime across state lines, would put the parents and others that helped them, in legal jeopardy.

Yellow posted...

Oh yeah, and there's going to be a huge rise in inbred people when that happens.

Plus the decades of lead in the pipes and paint that is still causing air and water quality problems, should help tremendously with all of that.

Yellow posted...

You think that's bad, just wait until the pro-lifers (all Republicans) pass a national abortion ban and 10 year olds will just give birth period.

I think the youngest documented live birth was at 11.

Oh yeah, and there's going to be a huge rise in inbred people when that happens.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Try 5 years old.

hypnox posted...

Problem with abortion is the super religious people and the fact most people don't know when "Life" actually begins.

I am 100% all for abortion and it being the sole choice of the woman. However I can see how the other people feel the way they do. The fact is, in their beliefs it is murder, plain and simple. And unless that religious aspect, or the fact of when "life" really begins, we will always have people fight to ban abortions.

I generally don't try to argue that fetuses aren't human or otherwise don't count as a life simply because there's no concrete basis for that. Any line you draw is going to be arbitrary, and using a personal comfort/convenience as the basis for it doesn't sit right with me (nor many others), so I just don't do that.

Instead, I accept that abortion means killing a human (we'll avoid the word "person" because it's pretty loaded). Sometimes, though, killing humans is better than the alternative. Self-defense is the most obvious one (and really, a woman would be justified in killing somebody to prevent them from forcing a small watermelon into her vagina, so killing somebody to prevent them from doing the equivalent from the other direction seems similarly justifiable), but you also get instances of taking people off of life support (usually due to quality of life considerations), or the more indirect example of letting somebody die by choosing not to donate tissues/organs that would have saved them.

That last point is perhaps the most salient: Countless lives could be saved by harvesting and transplanting every viable organ and requiring every person to donate blood as often as possible. But we don't do that, because saving those lives is treated as secondary to respecting the bodily autonomy of the donors. Except when we look at pregnancy. Pregnant women are ethically and now legally pressured into donating their bodies for the sake of their child's life, with all the health complications that come with that, and that's just not okay. When a literal corpse has more bodily autonomy than a pregnant woman, that's a problem.

Jen0125 posted...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Try 5 years old.

Lina Medina gave birth at age 5 years, 7 months, and 21 days. That means she was still four years old when she got pregnant!

adjl posted...

Countless lives could be saved by harvesting and transplanting every viable organ and requiring every person to donate blood as often as possible. But we don't do that, because saving those lives is treated as secondary to respecting the bodily autonomy of the donors.

Which is why many countries have, or are switching to an opt-out system.

Carbon_Deoxxys posted...

But then you go saying that the girl would probably be arrested? As far as I know it's not illegal to cross state lines to get an abortion. Even if it was she still a minor and wouldn't it be held legally responsible because I doubt she went on this trip herself I'm sure one of her parents drove her.

I believe it is illegal, though At least, states were trying to make it illegal

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

What could even be worse? Reintroducing the Marital R-License?

Well, they are trying to get rid of interracial marriage Which kind of offends me since Im in an interracial relationship (even though I dont plan on getting married) And that want to get rid of gay people altogether (The whole LGBTQ+ group, technically) And that offends me since Im gay Yeah, it feels like its going to get worse I mean, weve been hearing about stuff they want to get rid of. And that stuff would basically make us a dystopian future

I feel like that one is more difficult to argue under the US constitution and amendments.

Just means your Government has to update some laws to be compatible with the 21st century and ignore (some/most of) the dress wearers stuck in 1776.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

I feel like that one is more difficult to argue under the US constitution and amendments.

Just means your Government has to update some laws to be compatible with the 21st century and ignore (some/most of) the dress wearers stuck in 1776.

Part of the problem is just thinking itll be hard to argue We dont really have room to pretend everything will be ok anymore By acting like it should be fine because thatll be difficult to argue under the US constitution is how we (the Americans of the US) all lose our rights in the US And I dont think the people in charge care about the constitution

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