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Antifar 07/05/22 2:20:37 PM #1:	And also some real people, too https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/democrats-frustrated-biden-lack-of-urgency-supreme-court-setbacks/index.html Debra Messing was fed up. The former Will & Grace star was among dozens of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call with White House aides last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. The mood was fatalistic, according to three people on the call, which was also co-organized by the advocacy group Build Back Better Together. Messing said shed gotten Joe Biden elected [Antifar's note: what] and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didnt even seem a point to voting. Others wondered why the call was happening. That afternoon, participants received a follow-up email with a list of basic talking points and suggestions of Biden speech clips to share on TikTok. The call, three days after the decision eliminating federal abortion rights, encapsulates the overwhelming sense of frustration among Democrats with Biden. It offers a new window into what many in the Presidents party describe as a mismanagement permeating the White House. Top Democrats complain the President isnt acting with or perhaps is even capable of the urgency the moment demands. Rudderless, aimless and hopeless is how one member of Congress described the White House. Two dozen leading Democratic politicians and operatives, as well as several within the West Wing, tell CNN they feel this goes deeper than questions of ideology and posture. Instead, they say, it gets to questions of basic management. More than a week after the abortion decision, top Biden aides are still wrangling over releasing new actions in response, despite the draft decision leaking six weeks earlier. White House counsel Dana Remus had assured senior aides the Supreme Court wouldnt rule on abortion that day. A White House press aide assigned to the issue was walking to get coffee when the alert hit. Several Democratic leaders privately mocked how the President stood in the foyer of the White House, squinting through his remarks from a teleprompter as demonstrators poured into the streets, making only vague promises of action because he and aides hadnt decided on more. Then, Bidens July 1 meeting with governors to talk about their efforts to protect abortion rights was planned so last minute that none of those who attended came in person, and several of those invited declined to rearrange their schedules to appear virtually. Multiple Democratic politicians who have reached out to work with Biden whether its on specific bills, brainstorming or outreach often dont hear anything back at all. Potential appointees have languished for months waiting to hear if theyll get jobs, or when theyll be done with vetting. Invitations to events are scarce, thank you calls barely happen. Even some aides within the White House wonder why Biden didnt fire anyone, from the West Wing or at the Food and Drug Administration, to demonstrate some accountability or at least anger over the baby formula debacle. Inside the White House, aides are exhausted from feeling forever on red alert, batting at a swarm of crises that keeps growing enough for White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to make an offhand joke about the constant eleventh hour decision-making in the building when under fire at a recent daily briefing. Several officials say Bidens tendency to berate advisers when hes displeased with how a situation is being handled or when events go off poorly has trickled down the ranks in the West Wing, leaving several mid-level aides feeling blamed for failings despite lacking any real ability to influence the buildings decision-making. Thats contributed to some of the recent staff departures, according to people familiar. Democrats worry the lack of decisions and authority are deepening their own midterm problems and feeding a sense that the President couldnt truly handle the extra complications of a run for reelection in 2024 and along the way, reinforcing narratives that hes an old man not fit for the moment. The President who campaigned on putting America back together again after four years of deep divisions appears to have stopped trying, supporters say. Theres no fight, another Democratic member told CNN. People understand that a lot of this is out of his hands but what you want to see is the President out there swinging. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:966357075] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>And also some real people, too https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/politics/democrats-frustrated-biden-lack-of-urgency-supreme-court-setbacks/index.html <quote>Debra Messing was fed up. The former Will & Grace star was among dozens of celebrity Democratic supporters and activists who joined a call with White House aides last Monday to discuss the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. The mood was fatalistic, according to three people on the call, which was also co-organized by the advocacy group Build Back Better Together. Messing said shed gotten Joe Biden elected [Antifar's note: what] and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didnt even seem a point to voting. Others wondered why the call was happening. That afternoon, participants received a follow-up email with a list of basic talking points and suggestions of Biden speech clips to share on TikTok. The call, three days after the decision eliminating federal abortion rights, encapsulates the overwhelming sense of frustration among Democrats with Biden. It offers a new window into what many in the Presidents party describe as a mismanagement permeating the White House. Top Democrats complain the President isnt acting with or perhaps is even capable of the urgency the moment demands. Rudderless, aimless and hopeless is how one member of Congress described the White House. Two dozen leading Democratic politicians and operatives, as well as several within the West Wing, tell CNN they feel this goes deeper than questions of ideology and posture. Instead, they say, it gets to questions of basic management. More than a week after the abortion decision, top Biden aides are still wrangling over releasing new actions in response, despite the draft decision leaking six weeks earlier. White House counsel Dana Remus had assured senior aides the Supreme Court wouldnt rule on abortion that day. A White House press aide assigned to the issue was walking to get coffee when the alert hit. Several Democratic leaders privately mocked how the President stood in the foyer of the White House, squinting through his remarks from a teleprompter as demonstrators poured into the streets, making only vague promises of action because he and aides hadnt decided on more. Then, Bidens July 1 meeting with governors to talk about their efforts to protect abortion rights was planned so last minute that none of those who attended came in person, and several of those invited declined to rearrange their schedules to appear virtually. Multiple Democratic politicians who have reached out to work with Biden whether its on specific bills, brainstorming or outreach often dont hear anything back at all. Potential appointees have languished for months waiting to hear if theyll get jobs, or when theyll be done with vetting. Invitations to events are scarce, thank you calls barely happen. Even some aides within the White House wonder why Biden didnt fire anyone, from the West Wing or at the Food and Drug Administration, to demonstrate some accountability or at least anger over the baby formula debacle. Inside the White House, aides are exhausted from feeling forever on red alert, batting at a swarm of crises that keeps growing enough for White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to make an offhand joke about the constant eleventh hour decision-making in the building when under fire at a recent daily briefing. Several officials say Bidens tendency to berate advisers when hes displeased with how a situation is being handled or when events go off poorly has trickled down the ranks in the West Wing, leaving several mid-level aides feeling blamed for failings despite lacking any real ability to influence the buildings decision-making. Thats contributed to some of the recent staff departures, according to people familiar. Democrats worry the lack of decisions and authority are deepening their own midterm problems and feeding a sense that the President couldnt truly handle the extra complications of a run for reelection in 2024 and along the way, reinforcing narratives that hes an old man not fit for the moment. The President who campaigned on putting America back together again after four years of deep divisions appears to have stopped trying, supporters say. Theres no fight, another Democratic member told CNN. People understand that a lot of this is out of his hands but what you want to see is the President out there swinging.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 07/05/22 2:21:05 PM #2:	stop projecting negativity --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:966357089] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>stop projecting negativity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBrainbuster 07/05/22 2:21:50 PM #3:	Biden does not even seem aware that he is the President. He does not act like someone who is the most powerful position on the planet, that much is true...but this made me laugh: Antifar posted... Messing said shed gotten Joe Biden elected [Antifar's note: what] and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didnt even seem a point to voting. Others wondered why the call was happening. wat --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! <cite>TheBrainbuster posted [p:966357111] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Biden does not even seem aware that he is the President. He does not act like someone who is the most powerful position on the planet, that much is true...but this made me laugh: Antifar posted... </cite> <quote> Messing said shed gotten Joe Biden elected [Antifar's note: what] and wanted to know why she was being asked to do anything at all, yelling that there didnt even seem a point to voting. Others wondered why the call was happening.</quote> wat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcyWarcy 07/05/22 2:22:03 PM #4:	Hes losing most people in general so its not surprising <cite>MarcyWarcy posted [p:966357113] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Hes losing most people in general so its not surprising </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evolician 07/05/22 2:25:01 PM #6:	It is kind of depressing when shit is hitting the fan and Biden tweets out Someone should do something about this. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon <cite>Evolician posted [p:966357183] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>It is kind of depressing when shit is hitting the fan and Biden tweets out Someone should do something about this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBrainbuster 07/05/22 2:25:35 PM #7:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I half-way agree voting is always important - BUT - Biden has handled this very, very poorly. Coming out and saying "Not much I can do - but vote in the midterms for my party because Roe is on the ballet" is just...no. It's pathetic. He should be spitting at the mouth and cussing at the cameras with rage. Instead he's just like "meh, keep voting for us" Like give me a fucking break, old man river --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! <cite>TheBrainbuster posted [p:966357195] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I half-way agree voting is always important - BUT - Biden has handled this very, very poorly. Coming out and saying "Not much I can do - but vote in the midterms for my party because Roe is on the ballet" is just...no. It's pathetic. He should be spitting at the mouth and cussing at the cameras with rage. Instead he's just like "meh, keep voting for us" Like give me a fucking break, old man river </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 07/05/22 2:27:22 PM #8:	Debra Messing is literally insane --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:966357226] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Debra Messing is literally insane </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 07/05/22 2:27:55 PM #9:	TheBrainbuster posted... I half-way agree voting is always important - BUT - Biden has handled this very, very poorly. Coming out and saying "Not much I can do - but vote in the midterms for my party because Roe is on the ballet" is just...no. It's pathetic. He should be spitting at the mouth and cussing at the cameras with rage. Instead he's just like "meh, keep voting for us" Like give me a fucking break, old man river This. Plus he's still kissing Mitch McConnell's ass and making deals with him to put in a pro life judge in Kentucky. Democrats in general have been failing to even act like they want to stop Republicans. Don't just sing and read poems. Don't continue to act like Republicans are still respectful people like top Democrats are doing. They're pretty much going "oh shucks, too bad" at everything going on and we don't need that. We need people with fire in them, not these old deluded and demented politicians who will be dead relatively soon anyway. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:966357234] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>TheBrainbuster posted... </cite> <quote>I half-way agree voting is always important - BUT - Biden has handled this very, very poorly. Coming out and saying "Not much I can do - but vote in the midterms for my party because Roe is on the ballet" is just...no. It's pathetic. He should be spitting at the mouth and cussing at the cameras with rage. Instead he's just like "meh, keep voting for us" Like give me a fucking break, old man river</quote> This. Plus he's still kissing Mitch McConnell's ass and making deals with him to put in a pro life judge in Kentucky. Democrats in general have been failing to even act like they want to stop Republicans. Don't just sing and read poems. Don't continue to act like Republicans are still respectful people like top Democrats are doing. They're pretty much going "oh shucks, too bad" at everything going on and we don't need that. We need people with fire in them, not these old deluded and demented politicians who will be dead relatively soon anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 07/05/22 2:28:34 PM #10:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Biden is the primary mouthpiece for the democrats, and he commands the nations attention when he says things simply by virtue of being the president he absolutely should be doing more than gently saying yeah well get to that he could be making any kind of executive order, he could be pushing the idea of accountability for the SC to make it mainstream, he could be filing lawsuits and authorizing use of federal land, etc he has done Jack fucking shit and not giving the impression that this is an immediate health crisis --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:966357247] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Biden is the primary mouthpiece for the democrats, and he commands the nations attention when he says things simply by virtue of being the president he absolutely should be doing more than gently saying yeah well get to that he could be making any kind of executive order, he could be pushing the idea of accountability for the SC to make it mainstream, he could be filing lawsuits and authorizing use of federal land, etc he has done Jack fucking shit and not giving the impression that this is an immediate health crisis </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBrainbuster 07/05/22 2:32:32 PM #12:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] THIS - we can agree on both of us. --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! <cite>TheBrainbuster posted [p:966357331] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> THIS - we can agree on both of us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 07/05/22 2:41:36 PM #14:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It really is, but that's sadly the reality that we live in. That's why Democrats need to be doing a lot more. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:966357506] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It really is, but that's sadly the reality that we live in. That's why Democrats need to be doing a lot more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 07/05/22 2:42:54 PM #15:	thats what happens when you refuse to stop evil ass republicans at every stop <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:966357532] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>thats what happens when you refuse to stop evil ass republicans at every stop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 07/05/22 2:47:48 PM #17:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] There needs to be messaging on what exactly they want to do, and how they will do it saying vote and well take some vague action isnt going to galvanize the moderates and independents The point is there are things he could be doing right now, and he is not doing any of them, for fear of alienating the right or something? part of why the GOP has been so successful is they hammer their messaging and have successfully shifted the Overton window farther right. We need a strong voice to be leading the charge against that and Biden just aint it --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:966357633] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> There needs to be messaging on what exactly they want to do, and how they will do it saying vote and well take some vague action isnt going to galvanize the moderates and independents The point is there are things he could be doing right now, and he is not doing any of them, for fear of alienating the right or something? part of why the GOP has been so successful is they hammer their messaging and have successfully shifted the Overton window farther right. We need a strong voice to be leading the charge against that and Biden just aint it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 07/05/22 2:49:09 PM #18:	GregShmedley posted... Other than better messaging, what can they do? Even though Manchin and Sinema are against removing the filibuster, they will blame all Democrats for that and then say Democrats simply werent mean enough to republican lawmakers. They need to continuously do housewife level zingers on Twitter <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:966357660] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote> Other than better messaging, what can they do? </quote> Even though Manchin and Sinema are against removing the filibuster, they will blame all Democrats for that and then say Democrats simply werent mean enough to republican lawmakers. They need to continuously do housewife level zingers on Twitter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 07/05/22 2:49:15 PM #19:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Dog we are not a primarily right wing country. All these right wing policies being enacted everywhere? Polls say they are majority unfavorable. Roe v wade being overturned? Majority against. Wanting some kind of gun legislation amidst mass shootings? Majority favorable. --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:966357662] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Dog we are not a primarily right wing country. All these right wing policies being enacted everywhere? Polls say they are majority unfavorable. Roe v wade being overturned? Majority against. Wanting some kind of gun legislation amidst mass shootings? Majority favorable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 07/05/22 2:53:11 PM #20:	It's a simpler ask for like 10 Democratic officials to change their behavior than millions of voters. The party has power now that they won't have after January, what are they going to do with it? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:966357746] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>It's a simpler ask for like 10 Democratic officials to change their behavior than millions of voters. The party has power now that they won't have after January, what are they going to do with it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClockworkHare 07/05/22 2:58:38 PM #22:	CNN: Biden has lost the celebs Well, celebs depend on John Q. Public consumers. And Johnny's not doing so hot right now. That's going to negatively impact the celebs and they're going to want answers from politicians, including the current U.S president. And if he's not offering constructive definitive answers that prove how things will get better for the common people and up (or worse, he's caught gaslighting), the pampered babies in Hollywood are going to start scowling too. Even some critics on the left determined Biden was just a placeholding sock puppet on life support anyway. His dropping popularity should not be surprising. --- Bite me like one of your French rolls. https://tryimg.com/u/2020/08/11/1tZ1gcH.jpg <cite>ClockworkHare posted [p:966357874] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><quote>CNN: Biden has lost the celebs</quote>Well, celebs depend on John Q. Public consumers. And Johnny's not doing so hot right now. That's going to negatively impact the celebs and they're going to want answers from politicians, including the current U.S president. And if he's not offering constructive definitive answers that prove how things will get better for the common people and up (or worse, he's caught gaslighting), the pampered babies in Hollywood are going to start scowling too. Even some critics on the left determined Biden was just a placeholding sock puppet on life support anyway. His dropping popularity should not be surprising. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 07/05/22 2:59:27 PM #23:	Losing celebs might actually gain Biden some moderate votes. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:966357890] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Losing celebs might actually gain Biden some moderate votes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 07/05/22 3:01:25 PM #24:	Nothing more eyerolling than celeb "activists". I also hate these media headlines because it takes focus away from people really struggling financially and socioeconomically who have also put blame on govt for fucking things up. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:966357932] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Nothing more eyerolling than celeb "activists". I also hate these media headlines because it takes focus away from people really struggling financially and socioeconomically who have also put blame on govt for fucking things up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 07/05/22 3:34:35 PM #28:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] is that the case? is it even mathematically realistic for dems to hold on to the house? --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:966358578] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> is that the case? is it even mathematically realistic for dems to hold on to the house? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L_Ratio_Cope 07/05/22 3:37:27 PM #29:	GregShmedley posted... I'm so fucking goddamn sick of whiny ass liberals with zero understanding of how government works, our current Senate makeup, or how right wing the country is in general, complaining they "did their part" by voting in a single election (2020). Shut the fuck up. Stay engaged. And actually turn out to vote. The entitlement is so unreal. They are projecting the voice of the people. We do not live in a democracy. Our votes don't matter and it's on full display. <cite>L_Ratio_Cope posted [p:966358660] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>I'm so fucking goddamn sick of whiny ass liberals with zero understanding of how government works, our current Senate makeup, or how right wing the country is in general, complaining they "did their part" by voting in a single election (2020). Shut the fuck up. Stay engaged. And actually turn out to vote. The entitlement is so unreal. </quote> They are projecting the voice of the people. We do not live in a democracy. Our votes don't matter and it's on full display.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 07/05/22 3:43:09 PM #30:	This is how Joe Biden has always been. Hes always been deferential to Republicans, has always prized norms at the expense of all else, has never run a good campaign, has never been a good negotiator and has never cared about average Americans. And yet many of the same people who worked so very hard to get Biden the job in spite of his long career of being shit are seemingly shocked to learn that Joe Biden isnt some neat Onion caricature but actually honest-to-God Joe fucking Biden. --- I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! Remember: heat from fire, fire from heat! She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:966358814] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>This is how Joe Biden has always been. Hes always been deferential to Republicans, has always prized norms at the expense of all else, has never run a good campaign, has never been a good negotiator and has never cared about average Americans. And yet many of the same people who worked so very hard to get Biden the job in spite of his long career of being shit are seemingly shocked to learn that Joe Biden isnt some neat Onion caricature but actually honest-to-God Joe fucking Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 07/05/22 3:46:32 PM #32:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Im going to vote of course but Im clearly not alone in genuinely thinking that voting is not going to get us out of this mess, and messaging from top level democrats is not doing anything to move the needle on that front --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:966358889] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Im going to vote of course but Im clearly not alone in genuinely thinking that voting is not going to get us out of this mess, and messaging from top level democrats is not doing anything to move the needle on that front </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L_Ratio_Cope 07/05/22 3:46:42 PM #33:	We need radical change to encourage dems to vote. We saw it happen with Stacey Abrams efforts. She needs to run for president <cite>L_Ratio_Cope posted [p:966358895] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>We need radical change to encourage dems to vote. We saw it happen with Stacey Abrams efforts. She needs to run for president</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 07/05/22 3:47:46 PM #34:	TheGoldenEel posted... Im going to vote of course but Im clearly not alone in genuinely thinking that voting is not going to get us out of this mess, and messaging from top level democrats is not doing anything to move the needle on that front Yeah. I'll still vote but I realize that my vote will do absolutely nothing. --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:966358925] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Im going to vote of course but Im clearly not alone in genuinely thinking that voting is not going to get us out of this mess, and messaging from top level democrats is not doing anything to move the needle on that front</quote>Yeah. I'll still vote but I realize that my vote will do absolutely nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 07/05/22 3:47:52 PM #35:	lol celebrity political opinions --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif https://i.imgur.com/2aof3ao.jpg <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:966358929] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>lol celebrity political opinions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 07/05/22 3:56:35 PM #36:	L_Ratio_Cope posted... We need radical change to encourage dems to vote. We saw it happen with Stacey Abrams efforts. She needs to run for president she cant even win her own races --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:966359144] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>L_Ratio_Cope posted... </cite> <quote>We need radical change to encourage dems to vote. We saw it happen with Stacey Abrams efforts. She needs to run for president</quote>she cant even win her own races </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 07/05/22 4:10:31 PM #38:	Damn, Biden lost that person from Will and Grace that I had to look up on Google to know who it was. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:966359462] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Damn, Biden lost that person from Will and Grace that I had to look up on Google to know who it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 07/05/22 4:19:00 PM #39:	I agree with Greg. To a point. This petulant and immature attitude among lubs and leftists where "I've done the bare minimum and haven't been handed everything I wanted! What's the point?!?" Is absolutely stupid and needs to go away All that being said the Biden Admi is is barely trying at all. I understand the presidency has limitations and within Congress the Dems were handed a shit hand this cycle but like cmon guys there's still at least SOME shit you could do here. They don't even make symbolic gestures. They don't reach out and make their case to the public. It's laziness and incompetence of the worst kind. I agree that yeah you gotta vote for them over literal fascism but the very least they could do is wield what power they've been given --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:966359651] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>I agree with Greg. To a point. This petulant and immature attitude among lubs and leftists where "I've done the bare minimum and haven't been handed everything I wanted! What's the point?!?" Is absolutely stupid and needs to go away All that being said the Biden Admi is is barely trying at all. I understand the presidency has limitations and within Congress the Dems were handed a shit hand this cycle but like cmon guys there's still at least SOME shit you could do here. They don't even make symbolic gestures. They don't reach out and make their case to the public. It's laziness and incompetence of the worst kind. I agree that yeah you gotta vote for them over literal fascism but the very least they could do is wield what power they've been given </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L_Ratio_Cope 07/05/22 5:32:24 PM #40:	MaxEffingBemis posted... she cant even win her own races She can when voter suppression isn't imposed. <cite>L_Ratio_Cope posted [p:966361326] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted...</cite> <quote> she cant even win her own races </quote> She can when voter suppression isn't imposed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_HayleyWilliams 07/05/22 5:36:36 PM #41:	Robot2600 posted... stop projecting negativity Why --- hockeybub89 <cite>_HayleyWilliams posted [p:966361408] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite> <quote>stop projecting negativity</quote>Why </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 07/05/22 5:39:23 PM #42:	because im sad --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:966361472] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>because im sad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_HayleyWilliams 07/05/22 5:41:50 PM #43:	Doom_Art posted... This petulant and immature attitude among lubs and leftists where "I've done the bare minimum and haven't been handed everything I wanted! What's the point?!?" Is absolutely stupid and needs to go away Why the fuck should the average person have to do more to not have basic human rights taken away? Stop taking blame away from the government. This is the fault of the fascists passing the laws and the fault of the opposing party for not giving everything they have to stop them. Average people don't have any responsibility to do their jobs for them. --- hockeybub89 <cite>_HayleyWilliams posted [p:966361529] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>This petulant and immature attitude among lubs and leftists where "I've done the bare minimum and haven't been handed everything I wanted! What's the point?!?" Is absolutely stupid and needs to go away</quote>Why the fuck should the average person have to do more to not have basic human rights taken away? Stop taking blame away from the government. This is the fault of the fascists passing the laws and the fault of the opposing party for not giving everything they have to stop them. Average people don't have any responsibility to do their jobs for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L_Ratio_Cope 07/05/22 5:42:28 PM #44:	_HayleyWilliams posted... Why the fuck should the average person have to do more to not have basic human rights taken away? Stop taking blame away from the government. You're arguing with someone who would literally vote for Donald Trump if he remained a democrat <cite>L_Ratio_Cope posted [p:966361545] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>_HayleyWilliams posted...</cite> <quote> Why the fuck should the average person have to do more to not have basic human rights taken away? Stop taking blame away from the government. </quote> You're arguing with someone who would literally vote for Donald Trump if he remained a democrat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 07/05/22 6:15:27 PM #47:	L_Ratio_Cope posted... She can when voter suppression isn't imposed. Thats to be determined. Why cant we just agree that shes great at getting people to vote and that be that? Just keep her in that role. Like she should be in charge of the DNC, not the presidency --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:966362287] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>L_Ratio_Cope posted... </cite> <quote>She can when voter suppression isn't imposed.</quote>Thats to be determined. Why cant we just agree that shes great at getting people to vote and that be that? Just keep her in that role. Like she should be in charge of the DNC, not the presidency </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L_Ratio_Cope 07/05/22 6:21:11 PM #48:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Thats to be determined. Why cant we just agree that shes great at getting people to vote and that be that? Just keep her in that role. Like she should be in charge of the DNC, not the presidency Well she was great at winning the governor's election a few years ago but they broke the law to allow Kemp the victory <cite>L_Ratio_Cope posted [p:966362430] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted...</cite> <quote> Thats to be determined. Why cant we just agree that shes great at getting people to vote and that be that? Just keep her in that role. Like she should be in charge of the DNC, not the presidency </quote> Well she was great at winning the governor's election a few years ago but they broke the law to allow Kemp the victory</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 07/05/22 7:00:02 PM #50:	_HayleyWilliams posted... Why the fuck should the average person have to do more to not have basic human rights taken away? I mean in terms of acquiring and maintaining rights, historically at least, voting is actually the absolute bare minimum that can be done lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:966363302] in CNN: Biden... [t:80083589]...</cite> <quote>_HayleyWilliams posted... </cite> <quote>Why the fuck should the average person have to do more to not have basic human rights taken away?</quote>I mean in terms of acquiring and maintaining rights, historically at least, voting is actually the absolute bare minimum that can be done lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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