Current Events > EU will require new cars to be equipped with speeding prevention tech by 2024

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https://gagadget.com/en/145360-the-european-union-will-require-all-new-cars-to-be-equipped-with-speeding-prevention-technology-by-2024/

Intelligent speed assistance, or ISA, is a new anti-speeding technology that will be used on every vehicle sold in the European Union. The EU regulation (part of the larger General Vehicle Safety Regulation) takes effect today, and it states that all new models and types of vehicles brought to the European market must have an ISA system. The policy does not apply to any current vehicles on display at least not yet. Every new car sold in the EU must have an anti-speeding device by July 2024.

The European Commission stated that the introduction of ISA was a "tremendous step forward for road safety" and has the potential to drastically reduce road traffic deaths and injuries. Now that car manufacturers have had time to adjust, they can capitalize on the potential offered by ISA for creating safer roads for all.

For those unfamiliar with ISA, it's a term that refers to a collection of technologies that may be used to detect road speed limits using front-mounted cameras, GPS data, or both. The technology can give reminder notifications about the speed limit, automatically adjust cruise control to match the road's speed, and even cut power to the engine to slow speeding vehicles, depending on the specific ISA and how it's set by the driver.

While the United States has yet to make a law that requires ISA, European drivers are already using it. According to EU-funded PROSPER's projections, a situation like this one, in which ISA is required, could result in between 26 and 50 percent fewer fatalities.

ISA technology, on the other hand, isn't flawless. During one test, the ISA system was "slow to react" and the speed limit was set at 60 mph while driving through a peaceful English village.

Cool

Does it turn off on the Autobahn

This is going to make the Germans upset.

Damn_Underscore posted...

Does it turn off on the Autobahn

It better or it needs a manual on/off switch if there's no auto turn off feature.

Eew

I was just thinking "I'm so glad this speed limit display above the speedometer doesn't actually force me to slow down."

Guess I spoke too soon lol.

I will never buy a car that has this "feature."

That seems dangerous. Putting the cart before the horse as the tech seems a bit new to be mandatory. Its great in theory but who wants to bet that it will be rolled back cause people are going to have problems.

Much like any planit will not survive contact with the enemy. Using the phrase but not the true enemy meaning though.

They are going full on authoritarian with this one, not looking good for the EU if they just take this.

K181 posted...

This is going to make the Germans upset.

It should make everyone upset.

It might work in Germany where they actually have a road budget and can afford nice roads. Not in other countries where you dont get speed signs or painted lines on the road and potholes go unfixed for years at a time. GPS based wont work at all since GPS is nowhere near live and accurate enough.

Whatever will they do in Michigan when they can't drive 90 mph on their interstates that are more craters than road

Good. No need to worry about it if you're not a shitty driver.

*sad police noises*

The main issue I have with these sorts of things is increasing tech costs being passed to consumers.

And making it harder and harder to self repair vehicles.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

They are going full on authoritarian with this one, not looking good for the EU if they just take this.

Yup, they're showing their true nature.

Lame. Fuck that noise.

ToadallyAwesome posted...

That seems dangerous. Putting the cart before the horse as the tech seems a bit new to be mandatory. Its great in theory but who wants to bet that it will be rolled back cause people are going to have problems.

Much like any planit will not survive contact with the enemy. Using the phrase but not the true enemy meaning though.

What will happen is a massive increase in accidents as these new cars get rear ended constantly by people already going 10+ over going into a new speed zone where the limit drops another 10 or so.

Fuck off EU. If you aren't going 10mph above the limit, you aren't driving right lol

NeonOctopus posted...

Fuck off EU. If you aren't going 10mph above the limit, you aren't driving right lol

There should be a legally recognized & allowed 25% over the speed limit where you only get warned and not ticketed/fined if caught for the first time in 49.7 days.

That warning allowance will reset in 49.7 days.

I think this is worth reading in this context:
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2022/07/06/why-french-and-us-road-death-trends-went-in-dramatically-different-directions/

This is wonderful news. Car based infrastructure is incredibly inefficient and deadly, so every little bit helps. You can expect blowback from carbrain nutjobs but they'll learn to deal with it as society marches forward.

I'm going to assume any car made prior to 2024 is going to be worth a fortune soon because of this.

If you want people to not speed, just put Speed & Traffic Violation Camera's at every sign facing towards you and away from you.

If you're caught speeding or violating basic Traffic rules, you get auto ticketed by the computer.

That would dramatically reduce the amount of speeders everywhere given how many signs you see.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

If you want people to not speed, just put Speed & Traffic Violation Camera's at every sign facing towards you and away from you.

If you're caught speeding or violating basic Traffic rules, you get auto ticketed by the computer.

That would dramatically reduce the amount of speeders everywhere given how many signs you see.

Alberta Canada recently had a huge thing about photo radar.
End result: it does nothing to curb speeding or dangerous driving, and only exists as a money making tool for the government.

I have speed cameras near my house and I still hear people zooming by at 2 in the morning >_> They don't give a fuck lol

meestermj posted...

Alberta Canada recently had a huge thing about photo radar.
End result: it does nothing to curb speeding or dangerous driving, and only exists as a money making tool for the government.

Worst case scenario, it's a new source of revenue for the Government.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

Worst case scenario, it's a new source of revenue for the Government.

It got reversed her for that very reason.
Having that be a source of governmental income is unethical, and illustrates that the government isn't concerned with safety or enforcement.
. Just money.

meestermj posted...

Alberta Canada recently had a huge thing about photo radar.
End result: it does nothing to curb speeding or dangerous driving, and only exists as a money making tool for the government.

Right, the actual way to curb speeding is to design roads so that you physically cannot speed on them

They put speed cushions over some roads nearby but you can still go 50mph over them and not really feel it beside a gentle bump >_>

Butterfiles posted...

Right, the actual way to curb speeding is to design roads so that you physically cannot speed on them

Or, as someone above mentioned, all vehicles coming stock with a governor.
No personal or commercial vehicle (outside of emergency responders) has any business going overb120km/h.
Period.

Awesker002 posted...

*sad police noises*

This is the big reason this will never fly in America, cities like their traffic violation revenue.

Anyway, between this and car sub services there's going to be a lot of money to be made jail breaking cars.

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I've never liked speed governors, there are places where you can legally speed to your hearts content.

Private Race Tracks where you rent time.
Private Roads.
Desert Salt Flats that are available to public use.

Having the government force a speed limit on everybody via technology is pointless & expensive.

Just be like other countries, set up speed Traps everywhere.

If you can see a sign, on the freeway, on regular roads; it'll have a speed camera facing you and when you bypass it, it'll have a speed camera mounted behind the sign, facing the opposite way to catch you speeding.

If you put enough speed traps everywhere, people will get the hint for those who are on the borderline who don't intend to speed.

Those who intend on speeding, not much you can do about them. They'll always find a way to rip out the Speed Governor or disable it.

meestermj posted...

Or, as someone above mentioned, all vehicles coming stock with a governor.
No personal or commercial vehicle (outside of emergency responders) has any business going overb120km/h.
Period.

They will get disabled, ripped out, defeated in mass.

You thought Music Piracy was bad in the 90's, this would be even worse.

voldothegr8 posted...

This is the big reason this will never fly in America, cities like their traffic violation revenue.

Exactly, that's why I have no issues with Speed Trap & Traffic Violation camera's.

It's easy enough to implement, you can spam them on all major Freeways / Highways / Arterials / Fast Roads.

As an emergency driver, I wish more people would fucking speed! I get too many slowpokes who get in my way or get out too slowly and it just takes forever to get to the hospital. They need to learn to move the fuck over if you aren't gonna keep up!

NeonOctopus posted...

As an emergency driver, I wish more people would fucking speed! I get too many slowpokes who get in my way or get out too slowly and it just takes forever to get to the hospital. They need to learn to move the fuck over if you aren't gonna keep up!

You must have a field day when the sirens are on =D

NeonOctopus posted...

As an emergency driver, I wish more people would fucking speed! I get too many slowpokes who get in my way or get out too slowly and it just takes forever to get to the hospital. They need to learn to move the fuck over if you aren't gonna keep up!

In my state you can get a ticket if you don't pull to the side when emergency vehicles are coming.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

They will get disabled, ripped out, defeated in mass.

One can hope

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

You must have a field day when the sirens are on =D

I love it going to calls. I get blow all the lights and go fast, even in the boxy vehicle. Going to hospitals I take it slower because we got a patient in the back and gotta do delicate shit like IVs or whatever. But I still get to slowroll through red lights or slowroll through oncoming traffic if we get jammed up

A lot of people sounding like anti-maskers ITT

Bio1590 posted...

and even cut power to the engine to slow speeding vehicles

That sounds dangerous.

voldothegr8 posted...

In my state you can get a ticket if you don't pull to the side when emergency vehicles are coming.

idk if it's like that here, but the cops don't really care either way >_>

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Speed Limits drastically change by zone and road. And Machines aren't always apt to adjust to real world conditions that need faster than speed limit to keep up with the flow of traffic or slower than speed limit.

In California, the law has it that you need to keep up with the flow of traffic, even if they're going past the speed limit. So a Speed Governor would inherently violate that law if everybody is going 10 mph over the Speed Limit and your vehicle is forced to go slower and create a bottle neck that would most likely create a accident because you were going too slow.

I suppose an effective middle ground would be special licenses for autobahn, salt flats, etc. or having those vehicles only be legal for those situations or having speed cameras everywhere else.

You don't need a special license for those, trying to make it so that you have a "Special License" to use those facilities is just more bureaucracy and unnecessary IMO.

One things for sure - life isnt black and white, and just one solution doesnt solve everything. Plus, as mentioned, countries and attitudes differ - the EU is effectively safe at driving afaik despite having higher speeds available to them, much like how they dont have as many issues with alcohol on and off the road - the culture is simply different.

Learn to not be a dumb ass by NOT "drinking & driving".

Everybody can always find a way to have somebody else take you home.

If you don't, that's on you along with all the consequences of doing so.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

They will get disabled, ripped out, defeated in mass.

You thought Music Piracy was bad in the 90's, this would be even worse.

At which point its now an illegal modification and ticket-able.
Speeding kills.
Any road accidents we can prevent, avoid, or punish we should.

What if I'm running away from a murderer