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ZannoL 07/24/22 12:06:10 PM #1: |
Do you think she's right or wrong?
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https://www.insider.com/jessica-alba-believes-marvel-films-are-still-quite-caucasian-2022-7 Jessica Alba said that Marvel films are "still quite Caucasian" in regards to inclusion and diversity. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/9/AAaB-xAADfQ5.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 07/24/22 12:13:26 PM #2: |
Is she pretending the F4 movies didn't try to make her look white as hell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 07/24/22 12:13:34 PM #3: |
Idk why I misread her as Jessica Biel >____> --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 07/24/22 12:14:55 PM #4: |
I talk about racism all the time. However I do not think she is a correct here. Marvel has more diversity then so many other brands. And women is big roles. So much so Alt-righters hate her. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 07/24/22 12:15:27 PM #5: |
She's not wrong. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 07/24/22 12:16:37 PM #6: |
America is pretty Caucasian ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KobiusBrandle_F 07/24/22 12:17:27 PM #7: |
non-white guy here the "everything is TOO WHITE11!!!" crowd is annoying af. look at the recent house of the dragon trailer for example. uhh, pretty sure the targaryens are supposed to be pale af. it's one of their defining physical features. and now Corlys is suddenly a token character smh if you wanna criticize MCU films, go after things that matter like the villains being underutilized or the lack of direction in phase 4 (so far). not this superficial s*** --- When I find myself in times of trouble, Justin Bieber comes to me. Speaking words of wisdom, what do u mean ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 07/24/22 12:19:59 PM #8: |
Raikuro posted... Is she pretending the F4 movies didn't try to make her look white as hellYeah, everyone I knew back then had a crush on her... even the girls, everyone thought she was just white. Dont think they would have cared, but no one was acting like she was pushing representation forward. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 07/24/22 12:36:29 PM #9: |
cjsdowg posted... I talk about racism all the time. However I do not think she is a correct here. Marvel has more diversity then so many other brands. And women is big roles. So much so Alt-righters hate her.Marvel has definitely done a great job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heavy_D_Forever 07/24/22 12:38:56 PM #10: |
Jesus fucking christ. Actors should be hired based on their ability to best portray the character they are playing. No one should care if they are White, Black, Asian or anything else. It's not fucking important. --- E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dathrowed1 07/24/22 12:40:18 PM #11: |
"Antiracism" just tears things apart and eats itself. See: Philadelphia's domestic violence NGO --- sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAndersonWb 07/24/22 12:45:15 PM #12: |
Smashingpmkns posted... She's not wrong. tony stark replaced by Riri Williams captain America replaced by the guy that was falcon hulk replaced by she hulk thor basically replaced by Valkyrie war machine was never white black widow is dead now we have an entire black franchise (black panther) redhead MJ replaced by zendaya MJ white jock flash Thompson replaced by indian rich guy flash Thompson. new POC characters are appearing (like America Chvez ) while a new white male character right now would be taboo. where is this overwhelming whiteness again? The only white main characters left in the movie theatre franchises are dr strange, Wanda, star-lord, Bucky and peter Parker. the black panther movie by itself has more non-white characters than then entire MCU has white characters left. I do not feel this is a bad thing, at all. I am not complaining about it, I dont care. All I am saying is Alba is lying. What does she want, to replace Wanda? To have a Persian dr strange? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KobiusBrandle_F 07/24/22 12:46:38 PM #13: |
MrAndersonWb posted... All I am saying is Alba is lying. What does she want relevance. it's what washed actors do --- When I find myself in times of trouble, Justin Bieber comes to me. Speaking words of wisdom, what do u mean ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAndersonWb 07/24/22 12:50:15 PM #14: |
Raikuro posted... Is she pretending the F4 movies didn't try to make her look white as hell latinx come in all shapes and colors. Did you really expect all Latinx actresses to have braided hair and look like the encanto characters? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 07/24/22 12:50:17 PM #15: |
Ahh yes. Jessica "im not latina" alba. Weird take from her. --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 07/24/22 12:50:56 PM #16: |
I wish I knew anything about Marvel movies so I could chime in on this one. --- As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance. Libertarian socialist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 07/24/22 12:51:31 PM #17: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... Jesus fucking christ. Actors should be hired based on their ability to best portray the character they are playing. No one should care if they are White, Black, Asian or anything else. It's not fucking important.Youre not wrong. But i take it you dont remember the outcry when they gave kingpin to mcd. --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/24/22 12:53:15 PM #18: |
She's right But I think the issue is more China than the US. That's their 2nd biggest market and they do not like non White/Chinese MCs. Hence why the TV shows are much more diverse than the movie. The simple fact is if Iron Man was black and Thor was Hispanic and Captain America was a Jewish woman from Isreal. The movies would have made a fraction in revenue. And the guys who make it aren't going to do that. To their credit they are giving different races/sexes supporting roles and more representation in the TV shows. Heck they cast Peter Dinklage in a role that had nothing to do with being a midget. I can't think of another Hollywood blockbuster movie that ever did that. I mean to put it into perspective, Ant-Man and The Wasp is considered a flop by MCU standards.... That did better than Black Panther in China and came out around the same time. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAndersonWb 07/24/22 12:54:30 PM #19: |
SauI_Goodman posted... Ahh yes. Jessica "im not latina" alba. Weird take from her. did she actually say that? Guns_of_Verdun posted... She's right how is she right? Did you read post 12? Lets go through the breakdown together ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 07/24/22 12:55:37 PM #20: |
MrAndersonWb posted... latinx come in all shapes and colors. Did you really expect all Latinx actresses to have braided hair and look like the encanto characters?Are you willfully ignoring the hair dye, contact lenses, and makeup plastered on her for those movies. She looked like she stepped off the set of White Chicks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gmanthebest 07/24/22 12:56:05 PM #21: |
Cool. Why doesn't she take what's left of her own money and create her own films that she can choose who is in them? --- A real man oughta be a little stupid. Ryuji Goda, Yakuza 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/24/22 12:56:27 PM #22: |
MrAndersonWb posted... User Since: May 2022 Karma: 29 Active Posts: 142 Let's not --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueTigerLion 07/24/22 12:59:47 PM #23: |
When I watch Tom Holland's Spiderman just feels like they gave him so much from Miles Morales origin. Instead of just having a black Spiderman --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAndersonWb 07/24/22 1:01:40 PM #24: |
Raikuro posted... Are you willfully ignoring the hair dye, contact lenses, and makeup plastered on her for those movies. She looked like she stepped off the set of White Chicks. but some Latinas can look like that naturally. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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coolcono 07/24/22 1:02:47 PM #25: |
Don't blame the movie makers, blame the comic creators. --- https://cartpushersarenumber1.quora.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deutschenlied 07/24/22 1:07:14 PM #26: |
She's wrong. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VideoboysaysCube 07/24/22 1:09:36 PM #27: |
Is this supposed to be a joke? Marvel is the last IP that I would expect to be accused of being too white. You can literally find characters of every color under the rainbow. What version of these movies are people watching? --- This sentence has five words. This sentence has eight words. Only one sentence in this signature is true. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJPurple 07/24/22 1:17:18 PM #28: |
Idk I think they have been doing good job with diversity Black Panther Ms Marvel Shang Chi Luke Cage Wandavision Its not all white men. Its still mostly white men but the we can see that Marvel has been slowly putting out more diverse films --- I will aid & abet abortion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/24/22 1:19:54 PM #29: |
VideoboysaysCube posted... Is this supposed to be a joke? Marvel is the last IP that I would expect to be accused of being too white. You can literally find characters of every color under the rainbow. What version of these movies are people watching?There was a black Locksmith in an episode of Friends once and Ross fucked a black girl. It's less about character's existing and more about who the characters are. The MCU movie brand will always be symbolized by this: https://c.tenor.com/atuEM9DqpxkAAAAC/the-avengers-team.gif Don't pretend you can't see it. Flash Thompson and Mary Jane might not be caucasian but Spiderman was never going to be Miles in the MCU. It was always going to be Peter Parker, literally 3 times. The doctor in Age of Ultron was Asian but then she fell off the face of the Earth. Hell Dr Strange traveled the world to find ancient Eastern magical powers and ended up in China where he.... found it in a caucasian chick... I feel like you can't claim not to see this. Marvel flat out went out of it's way to make their TV shows more diverse to counteract this. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAndersonWb 07/24/22 1:21:07 PM #30: |
SSJPurple posted... Idk I think they have been doing good job with diversity mostly white men? Cap is gone, Ironman is gone, Thor is getting phased out by Valkyrie, who is left? Spider-Man, Hawkeye and dr strange? Thats it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 07/24/22 1:21:27 PM #31: |
Namor is Mexican. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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project_night 07/24/22 1:23:46 PM #32: |
gmanthebest posted... Cool. Why doesn't she take what's left of her own money and create her own films that she can choose who is in them? I think she actually does have a lot of money from her company/brand. Probably made a lot more from it than her acting career. . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJPurple 07/24/22 1:24:22 PM #33: |
MrAndersonWb posted... mostly white men? Cap is gone, Ironman is gone, Thor is getting phased out by Valkyrie, who is left? Spider-Man, Hawkeye and dr strange? Thats it? Idk I havent actually watched a Marvel movie since Infinity War but I imagine if we tallied up the numbers my statement probably isnt false. --- I will aid & abet abortion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 07/24/22 1:24:32 PM #34: |
But it sells.... --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrAndersonWb 07/24/22 1:24:52 PM #35: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... There was a black Locksmith in an episode of Friends once and Ross fucked a black girl. so if a franchise starts white and then purged out all white characters it will still be white and a target of criticism? What? look at the gif you used as example. Cap, Ironman and black widow are gone. 2 of them were replaced by black characters. 2 are not dead but are being phased out by a replacement that is not a white man (hulk, Thor). That leaves us with Hawkeye ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueTigerLion 07/24/22 1:28:23 PM #37: |
coolcono posted... Don't blame the movie makers, blame the comic creators. Yea too many black superheroes have black in their name like Black Panther and Black Adam. It should have never been a thing. --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 07/24/22 1:30:49 PM #38: |
hulk replaced by she hulk thor basically replaced by Valkyrie Um what? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 07/24/22 1:36:03 PM #39: |
Phase 1 and a little of Phase 2 MCU she would be right, but Phase 3 and 4 are currently the most diverse we have with some of the Phase 1 and 2 are getting replaced with less represented minorities. I think she was probably only referencing Phase 1 and 2 when asked that question, because I think the casual audience would think of Ironman, Captain America, and Hulk when you say Marvel. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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runewalshPSiv 07/24/22 1:41:19 PM #40: |
VideoboysaysCube posted... Is this supposed to be a joke? Marvel is the last IP that I would expect to be accused of being too white. You can literally find characters of every color under the rainbow. What version of these movies are people watching? People like that wont be happy until there is no white people in anything. On second thought they will never be happy. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 07/24/22 1:42:17 PM #41: |
She's right in a way. But most of their biggest characters were made 50-80 years ago so it's not exactly surprising. They have been doing better lately. And they have played around with secondary characters, like Heimdall, since the start. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/24/22 1:42:30 PM #42: |
Heavy_D_Forever posted... Jesus fucking christ. Actors should be hired based on their ability to best portray the character they are playing. No one should care if they are White, Black, Asian or anything else. It's not fucking important. 1) Wouldn't the people best able portray/act be those who have had benefits of acting classes etc, which come from resources that were generally associated more with being white (at least in the US)? 2) Are you saying that the countless African American children who were excited to see a superhero that looked like them when BP came out were wrong for "caring that the character was black"? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baha05 07/24/22 1:43:03 PM #43: |
I mean a lot of the characters are white and we see other changes to race for characters as well. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 07/24/22 1:49:21 PM #44: |
I feel it's a pretty vague statement. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 07/24/22 1:52:06 PM #45: |
She's not wrong. They deserve props for having decent diversity in their leads and especially in phase 3 and 4, plus the tv shows are more diverse. However, they get whiter when you look at the supporting cast and villains. No repeats - IM1: Tony, Pepper, Happy, Stane, Rhodey, Coulson = 4 white men, 1 white woman, 1 black man You can't just say "oh yeah there's a ton of diversity when you look at the leads" when all the villains and side characters also tend to be white (and male) --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 07/24/22 1:52:43 PM #46: |
BlueTigerLion posted... Yea too many black superheroes have black in their name like Black Panther and Black Adam. It should have never been a thing.I feel like Marvel kind of acknowledges that to a certain extent. They made a few "Black Falcon" jokes in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Sam Wilson was having none of that lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBTc2AjBMc --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeantownHero 07/24/22 1:56:56 PM #47: |
KobiusBrandle_F posted... non-white guy here lmao --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaoticKnuckles 07/24/22 2:04:45 PM #48: |
gmanthebest posted... Cool. Why doesn't she take what's left of her own money and create her own films that she can choose who is in them? People would complain about that too, that wouldnt really change anything. --- Open to suggestions for a new sig. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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31Veteran 07/24/22 2:53:41 PM #49: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... Hell Dr Strange traveled the world to find ancient Eastern magical powers and ended up in China where he.... found it in a caucasian chick...I found this choice kind of weird myself. Were they worried about the old foreign wise man trope? In the comics Dr Strange definitely found wisdom from a local. --- Alt of 30RegularUser ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 07/24/22 2:56:04 PM #51: |
"Fewer white people please." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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