Board 8 > Rank the Albums Vol. 3: Ranking Thread (Deadline: September 16)

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FoolFantastic
09/18/22 9:49:16 AM
#51:


I talked earlier about my next choices being my top 3 from the current year - a new album cracked my top 3 this morning! And, even better, it's a rather accessible electronic album that runs at a relatively short 44 minutes!

...only problem is, someone pointed out to me that the vocalist/strings of this electronic group, Jockstrap, is also the violinist and backing vocalist for my #1 album this year by Black Country New Road. So, Georgia Ellery is having an amazing year artistically, but my own rules prevent me from nominating both despite the two works sounding nothing alike...

(all this obviously has nothing to do with this thread but better than a basic 'bump')

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Seanchan
09/18/22 8:04:39 PM
#52:


As with the previous album rankings, I updated this each week as we covered an albums songs. As someone whos never been big into music, a lot of these albums were new to me, so many of these are ranked based upon just a few listens.

Heard album before ranking: 6/25
Heard at least one song from the album before ranking: 12/25
Never even heard of the artist before ranking: 7/25

As with any ranking, there is a certain amount of fluidity here, especially with the middle of the list. Ultimately, I did this thinking about one question: how much do I want to listen to this album again?, so this is a very subjective list for my tastes.

If I tried to put this into tiers, Im thinking
Tier 1: 1-7 - Great albums that I really enjoyed and will continue to revisit in the future
Tier 2: 8-19 - Albums that range from like to okay but that I could see myself listening to (at least parts of) again
Tier 3: 20-23 - Albums I didnt particularly care for and probably wont listen to again
Tier 4: 24-25 - Albums that are a big fat NO for me

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Seanchan
09/18/22 8:09:28 PM
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  1. Metallica - Master of Puppets - Quite possibly the definitive Metallica album. Certainly the one Ive gone back to the most over the years. But then again, after re-listening to this, I dove back into Ride the Lightning and And Justice for All andyeahthose are pretty damn good too! (Maybe even better???). Overall, just a juggernaut of an album.
  2. Guns N Roses' - Appetite for Destruction - Tremendous from start to finish. Theres the 3 big singles but even beyond that, theres not really a bad song here.
  3. Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold - Metal is such an odd bird for me with these rankings. Its seemingly either love (Master of Puppets, Powerslave) or hate (Crack the Skye, Palimpsest (spoilers for next ranking...)). This self-titled album was one of the big surprises for me of this cycle. Much like Powerslave, this was another case of why the hell didnt I know about this?!?. Its as catchy as metal can get, with fun riffs, good singing, and some sometimes goofy lyrics. Hell, even the more slow/country songs are good! Metal sometimes has a problem of songs sounding kind of same-y but thats not the case here.
  4. blink-182 - Enema of the State - I was a big fan of blink during my 15-25 year old period, which also coincides with their heyday. Enema is just perfect pop-punk for me. Catchy, fun, sometimes juvenile and silly, but with enough heart that it manages to avoid being kitschy.
  5. Dream Theater - Images and Words - Id listened to some random Dream Theater songs back in college but for whatever reason never really got into them, despite liking a lot of artists of a similar prog metal sound. So this one wasnt a surprise as much as it was a head slap. Dream Theaters got a great singer that really matches the big, epic, almost operatic tone of this album. And I know that this isnt even considered their best!
  6. The Beatles - Rubber Soul - I mean, its The Beatles, so its hard to go wrong. Its no Abbey Road, but what is? An album of songs that have been seared into my brain. So much so that I had a hard time ranking this, as it was often hard to say really, your ranking this ABOVE the frickin Beatles?!?.
  7. Sunspot - Singularity - Another of the big surprises from this cycle. Perhaps a little bit unpolished in parts but its a tiny band from the midwest that probably about 10K people have ever heard of! I enjoyed the pop-punkish bent to a lot of the songs, and yes, I do wish I had F U money. The biggest compliment I can give is if an album makes me want to listen to more from an artist, and Singularity passed that test with flying colors.
  8. Opeth - Damnation - That statement earlier about metal finds the natural exception here, with this being just a like from me. I always knew Opeth as an unclean vocal death metal band, and so though Id heard a song or two, it wasnt a sound I particularly cared for. Damnation then was a real left turn, with clean vocals and a much more mellow, melodic sound. I could say its maybe a little bit one note, but when its played this well that doesnt matter. Also, its a short album that doesnt overstay its welcome.
  9. Jack White - Fear of the Dawn - I was worried about this one, as I wasnt a big fan of Elephant, the White Stripes album we covered that features Jack White. Imagine my shock when this was a very different, more edgy/hard/electronic sound that really appealed to me.
  10. Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee - Another pleasant surprise of this cycle. I had no idea what to expect going in, and what I got was an eminently listenable piece of pop. I am to understand that the upbeat tone belies some of the more somber messages of the lyrics but Im practically lyric blind sometimes so I didnt quite catch that.
  11. Miracle Musical - Hawaii Part 2 - This has to be the oddest album we covered this cycle. But because of that, it stands out and is memorable, much the same way Rain Dogs was in the last ranking cycle.
  12. Mos Def - Black on Both Sides - Im not big on rap, but this was better than I expected. Theres some good lyricism and a lot of catchy beats. The sheer variety on display here also helps mask the length of the album.
  13. Eagles - Hotel California - Its(more than) a bit reductive to say that its the title track and then everything else butits kind of true for me? Hotel California is a tremendous single that casts a monstrous shadow over the rest of the album, and does the bulk of the work on carrying this album up my rankings.
  14. Love - Forever Changes - Its not The Beatles but its still pretty good for 60s rock. Its an easy album to forget about, but when you listen its yeah, theres some decent stuff here.
  15. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory - One of the albums I loved as a late teen that I was hesitant about going back to, because its such a product of its time period. Theres a lot of angst and emotion here that doesnt really hit the way that it used to (and why would it to a 30+ year old), but at the same time, I cant pretend that theres not some good stuff here. Or maybe its just hitting those nostalgia centers and making me think its better than it is.

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Seanchan
09/18/22 8:10:48 PM
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16 - Taylor Swift - Folklore - Its too long but this one did grow on me a bit in subsequent listens. Of note, Ive continued to enjoy the song Exile, and have found myself going back to that particular track many times since we ranked this album.
17 - The White Stripes - Elephant - Im just so ambivalent on this album. Its listenable but not something Id seek out to listen to. Its the same way Ive felt about all those White Stripes singles over the years, so I guess its no surprise Ive the same feeling about a full length album.
18 - Phil Collins - Face Value - I dont have any particularly strong feelings about this one. As an album, I enjoyed this more than So, even if it doesnt have as good of singles. Its mostly just a pleasant, fine listen, other than the bizarre Beatles cover that ends the album. That ones just a big miss for me.
19 - Black Marble - It's Immaterial - Theres such a dreamy, almost ethereal quality to this album. Or maybe its that it feels like it was recorded on the other side of a thin wall and were getting only 80% of the soundl. I dont know. I feel like I was so close to really liking this but theres just some thing or element thats missing.
20 - Vast - Visual Audio Sensory Theater - I appreciate some of the artistry here but something about this just did not click with me.
21 - System of a Down - Toxicity - I said this at track ranking time and Ill say it again, this is just a sound that no longer appeals to me. I enjoyed it, and System of a Down in general, when I was in college but its hard for me to revisit.
22 - Peter Gabriel - So - EIGHTIES!!!!! This album is so screamingly 1980s its ridiculous. Its also an album with a pretty strong split between songs I like, songs I think are okay, and songs that I did not like. The singles, such as Sledgehammer and In Your Eyes are great but the bottom tier is so bizarre that it really brings the album down for me.
23 - The Cranberries - No Need to Argue - Another album I dont have particularly strong feelings about. Its fine enough but it doesnt thrill me, which isnt really a fair criticism because this isnt the type of album thats trying to thrill. But thats just the way it goes sometimes.
24 - Faith No More - Angel Dust - I just did not enjoy this album. Its hard to pinpoint exactly what it is that rubbed me the wrong way, I just know this was a chore to get through. I guess I kind of liked the cover of Easy, but its so tonally different from the rest of the album it hardly even counts, in my mind.
25 - Portishead - Third - Third is an enormously moody and atmospheric album. Its also slow and depressing, the exact antithesis of the generally upbeat and energetic albums that form the top of my rankings. In short, this album was a huge bummer for me that felt like it was sucking my energy away. Easily my least favorite album of this cycle.

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HBJDubs
09/19/22 12:23:48 AM
#55:


Dream Theater - Images and Words
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Faith No More - Angel Dust
System of a Down - Toxicity
Portishead - Third
VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theater
Peter Gabriel - So
Opeth - Damnation
Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee
Guns n Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Phil Collins - Face Value
Eagles - Hotel California
Black Marble - It's Immaterial
blink-182 - Enema of the State
The Beatles - Rubber Soul
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
Sunspot - Singularity
The Cranberries - No Need to Argue
Jack White - Fear of the Dawn
Miracle Musical - Hawaii: Part II
Taylor Swift - Folklore
Love - Forever Changes
The White Stripes - Elephant

Top 8 are all fantastic albums, but the vast majority of these are good listens. Even with Elephant my main criticism is that I simply find it very boring. Everything has at least one good thing to offer, so overall this was a good set of albums

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FoolFantastic
09/20/22 10:53:23 AM
#56:


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FoolFantastic
09/21/22 12:45:28 PM
#57:


Just to make sure, I'm just expecting VeryInsane and MetalmindStats, right?

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LiquidOshawott
09/23/22 9:16:02 AM
#58:




Faith No More - Angel Dust
Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee
Portishead - Third
Love - Forever Changes
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
The Beatles - Rubber Soul
Opeth - Damnation
Taylor Swift - Folklore
The White Stripes - Elephant
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Peter Gabriel - So
System of a Down - Toxicity
Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
The Cranberries - No Need to Argue
Miracle Musical - Hawaii: Part II
Jack White - Fear of the Dawn
Phil Collins - Face Value
Guns n Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Black Marble - It's Immaterial
Dream Theater - Images and Words
Eagles - Hotel California
VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theater
blink-182 - Enema of the State
Sunspot - Singularity
Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold


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ChichiriMuyo
09/23/22 9:40:58 AM
#59:


FoolFantastic posted...
I talked earlier about my next choices being my top 3 from the current year - a new album cracked my top 3 this morning! And, even better, it's a rather accessible electronic album that runs at a relatively short 44 minutes!

...only problem is, someone pointed out to me that the vocalist/strings of this electronic group, Jockstrap, is also the violinist and backing vocalist for my #1 album this year by Black Country New Road. So, Georgia Ellery is having an amazing year artistically, but my own rules prevent me from nominating both despite the two works sounding nothing alike...

(all this obviously has nothing to do with this thread but better than a basic 'bump')
You're a monster.

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FoolFantastic
09/23/22 9:41:39 AM
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ChichiriMuyo posted...
You're a monster.

Huh?

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ChichiriMuyo
09/23/22 9:43:45 AM
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Dry wit. Seemed like you were beating yourself up for it when obviously you don't need to.

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MetalmindStats
09/24/22 7:05:11 AM
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Sorry this took me so long to finish up yet again.

1) Portishead - Third: Comprised of challenging, complex compositions and often overwhelming soundscapes to occupy the mind juxtaposed against Gibbons phenomenally direct vocals and achingly personal lyrics in variable proportions, with results that to me both are instantly enthralling and reward repeated exploration. Spectacularly successful at coalescing into a congruent whole, one thats never anything less than completely indescribable, completely itself and completely considered in all its absolute anomalousness and anomie alike. Yet all those words feel entirely like folly, because how could they ever encompass any significant amount of Thirds essence?
2) Peter Gabriel - So: What makes this patchwork of pretty yet disparate pieces sing to me as a coherent record is also its central genius: the way it unifies the 80s mainstream Western, world, and art music movements, distilling them all into a paragon of their individual parts. Meanwhile, Sos soul is found in Gabriels musical and lyrical craftsmanship. It all adds up to an album of phenomenal ambition delivered on in a way indicative of a mature, accomplished artist, simultaneously comfortingly familiar and creatively abstract.
3) Taylor Swift - folklore: I had originally intended to comment on my most recent folklore listen and all my accumulated thoughts about its various aspects, but I failed to fashion said sentiments into coherent sentences every time I tried. Only what I had hoped would simply be my closing statement made it out of that mess, so here it is: Much like a traditional folklorists tales, I might find the specifics of the stories Swift and her team tell here sort of ephemeral, but I think Ill never forget the feelings this latest telling of them evoked in me and that alone makes me want to adore folklore forevermore.
4) Miracle Musical - Hawaii: Part II: A spectacularly melodic show of an album, one that whizzes dandily along in a retrofuturistic-feeling potpourri of distinct pieces, and that nonetheless turns totally coherent in context, notably finishing right where it starts. The end result entirely sweeps me along with its contributors effervescent energy and evident enthusiasm, transporting me to a resonant if fleeting place in headspace, one which I wish to revisit over and over again.
5) The Cranberries - No Need to Argue: ORiordans delivery drags out all the emotional energy of an exorcism on a record that gives me the impression all involved, ORiordan especially, needed to make it. Her figurative authorial voice features to its fullest too, with results that feel tightly bound around their central conceit and which render repetition crucial, both musically and lyrically. Some songs feel hollowed-out in the best way possible, while others could come off as being a bit histrionic in lesser hands, all in their consistent way helping make for a haunted yet wistful whole.
6) Avenged Sevenfold - Avenged Sevenfold: I mean yes, the singings distinctive aspect is admittedly Shadows divisive raspiness, the songwritings distinctive aspect is admittedly its failure to be about anything much in practice, and the admittedly effective sonics distinctive aspects are missing. That makes it a sort of hollow experience, yes, but a highly enjoyable one for me, and not even emotionally empty, either. In a flippant sentence, popcorn cinema can be pretty phenomenal too, and this album feels a lot like metals equivalent thereof.
7) Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory: Rather like Rumours for a new generation, Hybrid Theory makes the best out of its melding-of-the-popular-genres conceit via continually on-point production, catchy hooks juxtaposed against impressive instrumentals, and the intricately balanced interplay of its vocalists. Indeed, even the way Bennington and Shinoda distill the formers interpersonal troubles and turmoil comes off to me as a Hybrid Theory of its own, with often relatable results which all the repetition really works to reinforce. Again akin to Rumours, I find it flows just a bit better when not intently focused on, but these songs always seem to slip under my skin anyways.
8) Opeth - Damnation: For mature melancholy, look no further - and like most people, sometimes I need to hear some sounds that recognize the pain in me. Here, that seems steeped in a subtle sort of solemnity, one which its compositions and kerfeldts delivery alike almost always honor. Otherwise, its difficult to describe what draws me to Damnation, though its consistent sound and the emotions it evokes make it a kind of contemplative counterpart to Hybrid Theory.
9) Jack White - Fear of the Dawn: Whites voice as a singer-songwriter effectively unites sticky verses and persistent melodies with weighty guitar and even dashes of experimental electronica. The results, both viscerally satisfying and technically accomplished, turn that scattershot approach into a virtue. Somethings missing for me to truly embrace this album, though, and perhaps its a certain emotional connection, one that its apparently piecemeal philosophy impedes.
10) Metallica - Master of Puppets: The first two-thirds at times feels like the dictionary definition of the word awesome, chock full of crunchy riffs and catchy hooks alike in songs that usually succeed at being about something more than themselves. But Leper Messiah buries a bunch of that energy, never to be truly retrieved again, and so I like rather than love Master of Puppets as a whole.

This divide is arbitrary and doesn't have a ton to do with my opinions about these albums, but ah well. An overwhelming majority of them fall into the greater 'like yet not quite love' range for me, which makes this slate rather worse than the last one towards the top but a big improvement on the bottom and to a lesser extent the middle.

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MetalmindStats
09/24/22 7:05:16 AM
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11) Japanese Breakfast - Jubilee: Jubilee has sumptuous soundscapes paired with sonorous singing enriched by strong songwriting, but it doesnt entirely stick with me. I find opener Paprika characteristic in that it would pretty much be the perfect Disney princess song if only it were catchier. Then again, I firmly believe pop should be under no obligation to foster hooks, and yet that feels more than a little like the missing piece here.
12) The Beatles - Rubber Soul: Its the Beatles, which breeds built-in expectations. In this case, as masterful musicians, the Fab Four enliven simplistic subjects and structures into ditties fun via familiarity, helping form the foundation of decades of future pop in the process.
13) Black Marble - Its Immaterial: For some odd reason, I felt a wave of nostalgia coming from it. Is ita spirit? I sense the presence of spirits.
14) Yasiin Bey - Black on Both Sides: A quite consistently (but for me, not quite spectacularly) compelling record with segments of standout songwriting embedded within the strong rhythmic + narrative flow it sustains at length.
15) Love - Forever Changes: From my too-modern perspective: very pleasant, very accessible - maybe a little too quiet and inclined to fade into the background, but it clearly has more going on under that surface.
16) Dream Theater - Images and Words: Its sonic bombast, self-serious lyrical sweep, and simply its songs length all render it fittingly larger than life. The effect is very performative, and its a performance its performers clearly believe in wholeheartedly, but that and its technical prowess typically substitute for more than add to my emotional engagement.
17) The White Stripes - Elephant: Plays like an affectionate yet knowing deconstruction of the 90s indie alt-rock wave that wears its 60s rock inspirations - restricted toolkit included - on its sleeve. However, the catchy, punchy, technically accomplished outcome is characteristic of something altogether novel. Elephant isnt quite consistently memorable, and it sometimes seems to slip into a sort of smug, self-congratulatory tone, but at least its simultaneously classy and rollicking big single (which I previously underrated) justifies that type of hype.
18) Eagles - Hotel California: It starts and finishes in fine style, to say the least - too bad about the muddled middle. The resulting record is often compelling, but for me, it fails to live up to its towering critical and popular stature or to Henleys sweeping concept-album ambitions.
19) VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theater: Its singular soundscapes seem to soar against a sort of basement-dwelling milieu, or at least thats my best attempt at describing this album. The effect intrigues me at first, only to wear out much of its initial interest over time.
20) Sunspot - Singularity: Sure, Singularity is highly inconsistent - only partly by design - and it never really reaches any great heights. But I find most of it endearing, even sort of enduring in its easy-breezy enjoyability anyways.
21) System of a Down - Toxicity: I struggle to take this album seriously, yet that actually strengthens its fun factor much of the time. A structure built on short bursts of sound that bounce between disparate subjects serves it well as such, but with fourteen of those songs, excessive repetition still leads me down the path of diminishing returns.
22) Faith No More - Angel Dust: An eclectic album with a genuinely transgressive beating heart derived from its routinely subversive songwriting. Its an admirable approach, one which feels like it stands alone among the many metal(-adjacent) albums of this cycle, with all due respect to genre-defining Master of Puppets. Still, theres something melodically missing from a record I respect but am still not sure if I like.
23) blink-182 - Enema of the State: I originally found the repetitious refrain of I time bomb that ends Enema of the State ludicrous to the point of laughter. Now it feels more like the manifesto of a record thats often remarkably perceptive and personal, plus plain enjoyable in places - albeit permanently a product of its time. Its sophomoric, somewhat misogynistic surface still puts me off, but Ive come to realize that its smarts lie under that skin.
24) Phil Collins - Face Value: The rest of this record is fine enough but feels conventional to a fault in spite of its solid components. I guess its a kind of talent to be able to conceal so many layers of vulnerability under such a middlebrow surface, but in this case, it doesnt leave me any less apathetic.
25) Guns n Roses - Appetite for Destruction: I guess Im just the outlier, because theres precious little I like here and lots I dont at all. Honestly, Appetite for Destruction repels me, and Ill leave it at that.

Of course, the above comments are terribly insubstantial, as with anything I post almost by definition. Additionally, theyre strictly my opinions, and as with last time, Im likely to have said some utterly stupid things as part of that.

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FoolFantastic
09/24/22 9:39:49 AM
#64:


I believe that is the last list I was expecting, so I am going to start calculating results now.

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BlueCrystalTear
09/24/22 2:09:01 PM
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I don't know how to better put this, but maybe we shouldn't be friends, Metal...

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BlueCrystalTear
09/24/22 2:09:30 PM
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(there's a chance I'm joking - I don't even know if I am)

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FoolFantastic
09/24/22 3:35:33 PM
#67:


In case anyone has this tagged, the results are being posted here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80176920

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MetalmindStats
09/24/22 10:50:42 PM
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BlueCrystalTear posted...
(there's a chance I'm joking - I don't even know if I am)
Y'know what, that's fair enough. I promise I too am disappointed I unexpectedly didn't like Face Value, and uh, maybe I shouldn't have commented on Appetite for Destruction, but I figured I should give some sort of explanation.

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