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Swagger_Dagger 08/23/22 10:37:59 PM #1:	It just seems inevitable. Republicans are slowly knocking down the dominos of democracy and pushing us more right. White nationalism is on openly on the rise and has the law behind it. Desantis, a white Christian ultraconservative from Florida is the type of guy the whole party is gonna unify behind unlike Trump. I hope Trump can disrupt Desantis's momentum because I don't think it will be particularly close if Desantis gets the nomination against Biden. Desantis is a young politician with a lot of momentum behind him right now. Biden can't even remember what he had for breakfast. Biden will not be able to keep up in debates and will only continue to get older and weaker, if he even makes it to the next election(He's already over the average US life expectancy). It just feels like the calm before the storm again. --- http://i.imgur.com/f4hfI.jpg <cite>Swagger_Dagger posted [p:967528048] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>It just seems inevitable. Republicans are slowly knocking down the dominos of democracy and pushing us more right. White nationalism is on openly on the rise and has the law behind it. Desantis, a white Christian ultraconservative from Florida is the type of guy the whole party is gonna unify behind unlike Trump. I hope Trump can disrupt Desantis's momentum because I don't think it will be particularly close if Desantis gets the nomination against Biden. Desantis is a young politician with a lot of momentum behind him right now. Biden can't even remember what he had for breakfast. Biden will not be able to keep up in debates and will only continue to get older and weaker, if he even makes it to the next election(He's already over the average US life expectancy). It just feels like the calm before the storm again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 08/23/22 10:40:19 PM #2:	Trump had the benefit of decades of TV celebrity and a knack for reading crowds that Desantis doesn't have. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:967528091] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Trump had the benefit of decades of TV celebrity and a knack for reading crowds that Desantis doesn't have. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/23/22 10:42:17 PM #3:	DeSantis is an even bigger piece of shit somehow I hate this country --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:967528126] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DeSantis is an even bigger piece of shit somehowI hate this country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gigageek1500 08/23/22 10:43:36 PM #4:	Anyone know who's behind these regular posts concern trolling about Republican fascism that always spend half their words on GOP talking points about Biden's alleged senility? Is this Russia's current op or what? --- "Like you're standing in front of them with your hands behind your back, and then present a small ribbon-wrapped gift to them." Duskmon on the colon <cite>gigageek1500 posted [p:967528152] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Anyone know who's behind these regular posts concern trolling about Republican fascism that always spend half their words on GOP talking points about Biden's alleged senility? Is this Russia's current op or what? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Halo478 08/23/22 10:45:06 PM #5:	DarthAragorn posted... DeSantis is an even bigger piece of shit somehow I hate this country --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOhpQDDME4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSF0jiKodDU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brqZha8_PDk <cite>Halo478 posted [p:967528181] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>DeSantis is an even bigger piece of shit somehowI hate this country</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 08/23/22 10:47:22 PM #6:	DarthAragorn posted... DeSantis is an even bigger piece of shit somehow I hate this country Because he is a competent piece of shit. He'll actually succeed in his dictatorship moreso than Trump, because he isn't an imbecile. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:967528218] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>DeSantis is an even bigger piece of shit somehowI hate this country</quote>Because he is a competent piece of shit. He'll actually succeed in his dictatorship moreso than Trump, because he isn't an imbecile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 08/23/22 10:47:36 PM #7:	Trump won't let deathsantis run --- http://i.imgur.com/gt58G1y.gif http://i.imgur.com/Kdvuckz.png http://i.imgur.com/SYqReLE.gif https://i.imgur.com/MbgGQWx.jpg <cite>Vegy posted [p:967528224] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Trump won't let deathsantis run</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/23/22 10:49:12 PM #8:	Sayoria posted... Because he is a competent piece of shit. He'll actually succeed in his dictatorship moreso than Trump, because he isn't an imbecile. And he's less concerned with enriching himself and more with stripping civil rights away. --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:967528246] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Sayoria posted... </cite><quote>Because he is a competent piece of shit. He'll actually succeed in his dictatorship moreso than Trump, because he isn't an imbecile.</quote>And he's less concerned with enriching himself and more with stripping civil rights away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/23/22 10:50:08 PM #9:	Please stop trying to downplay Trump. Desantis only played the game Trump let him play. I doubt the guy has the courage to try anything more. I remember when people kept saying "Pence is actually worse than Trump." Edit: My point isn't pro-desantis. It's more so, it's extremely dangerous to keep describing Trump as "not as dangerous." We need it to be clear, Trump is dangerous. I doubt Desantis could have ever done the damage that led to 1/6 like Trump did. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 32; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:967528269] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Please stop trying to downplay Trump. Desantis only played the game Trump let him play. I doubt the guy has the courage to try anything more. I remember when people kept saying "Pence is actually worse than Trump." Edit: My point isn't pro-desantis. It's more so, it's extremely dangerous to keep describing Trump as "not as dangerous." We need it to be clear, Trump is dangerous. I doubt Desantis could have ever done the damage that led to 1/6 like Trump did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Swagger_Dagger 08/23/22 10:51:18 PM #10:	gigageek1500 posted... Anyone know who's behind these regular posts concern trolling about Republican fascism that always spend half their words on GOP talking points about Biden's alleged senility? Is this Russia's current op or what? Please stop posting. --- http://i.imgur.com/f4hfI.jpg <cite>Swagger_Dagger posted [p:967528284] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>gigageek1500 posted... </cite><quote>Anyone know who's behind these regular posts concern trolling about Republican fascism that always spend half their words on GOP talking points about Biden's alleged senility? Is this Russia's current op or what?</quote>Please stop posting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gigageek1500 08/23/22 10:52:06 PM #11:	--- "Like you're standing in front of them with your hands behind your back, and then present a small ribbon-wrapped gift to them." Duskmon on the colon <cite>gigageek1500 posted [p:967528302] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 08/23/22 10:57:50 PM #12:	I'm less concerned about Biden stuttering during debates and more concerned about how the democrats are going to get people enthused enough to vote. His whole gimmick in 2020 was "I'm not Trump. Vote for me and life will feel normal again." Like obviously there's tons of stuff the republicans shouldn't be touching and damage that needs to be undone but how is he gonna sell it to the complacent average voter who doesn't care about any issue that doesn't effect them? >___> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:967528395] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>I'm less concerned about Biden stuttering during debates and more concerned about how the democrats are going to get people enthused enough to vote. His whole gimmick in 2020 was "I'm not Trump. Vote for me and life will feel normal again."Like obviously there's tons of stuff the republicans shouldn't be touching and damage that needs to be undone but how is he gonna sell it to the complacent average voter who doesn't care about any issue that doesn't effect them? >___></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 08/23/22 10:59:24 PM #13:	Anyone thinking DeSantis is going to become president in 2024 is embarrassing themselves. Too many Democrats learned its better to not give the current Republicans that much power again. Popular vote and the blue states wont let that happen. --- This used to be a worthy sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:967528415] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Anyone thinking DeSantis is going to become president in 2024 is embarrassing themselves. Too many Democrats learned its better to not give the current Republicans that much power again. Popular vote and the blue states wont let that happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/23/22 10:59:44 PM #14:	Unfortunately, the mods won't let us say what should happen to piece of shit politicians who will never read CE. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png Your uneducated opinions are worthless. <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:967528420] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately, the mods won't let us say what should happen to piece of shit politicians who will never read CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/23/22 11:00:34 PM #15:	Kim_Seong-a posted... I'm less concerned about Biden stuttering during debates and more concerned about how the democrats are going to get people enthused enough to vote. His whole gimmick in 2020 was "I'm not Trump. Vote for me and life will feel normal again." Like obviously there's tons of stuff the republicans shouldn't be touching and damage that needs to be undone but how is he gonna sell it to the complacent average voter who doesn't care about any issue that doesn't effect them? >___> So the average voter doesn't know a woman or anyone in the LGBT community? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png Your uneducated opinions are worthless. <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:967528434] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>I'm less concerned about Biden stuttering during debates and more concerned about how the democrats are going to get people enthused enough to vote. His whole gimmick in 2020 was "I'm not Trump. Vote for me and life will feel normal again."Like obviously there's tons of stuff the republicans shouldn't be touching and damage that needs to be undone but how is he gonna sell it to the complacent average voter who doesn't care about any issue that doesn't effect them? >___></quote>So the average voter doesn't know a woman or anyone in the LGBT community?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/23/22 11:01:53 PM #16:	--Zero- posted... Anyone thinking DeSantis is going to become president in 2024 is embarrassing themselves. Too many Democrats learned its better to not give the current Republicans that much power again. Popular vote and the blue states wont let that happen. It's hard to imagine the Republicans winning the popular vote for quite some time, but that isn't the game we play. It's much easier to imagine the few swing states needed for the electoral college to vote that way. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 32; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:967528454] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>--Zero- posted... </cite><quote>Anyone thinking DeSantis is going to become president in 2024 is embarrassing themselves. Too many Democrats learned its better to not give the current Republicans that much power again. Popular vote and the blue states wont let that happen.</quote>It's hard to imagine the Republicans winning the popular vote for quite some time, but that isn't the game we play. It's much easier to imagine the few swing states needed for the electoral college to vote that way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShineboxPhil 08/23/22 11:02:21 PM #17:	I for one welcome the Catholic Presidential Bowl of 2024 --- Colorado Avalanche, Golden State Warriors, Atlanta Braves, LA Rams, Real Madrid #1 Fan <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:967528458] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>I for one welcome the Catholic Presidential Bowl of 2024</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 08/23/22 11:03:57 PM #18:	PiOverlord posted... It's hard to imagine the Republicans winning the popular vote for quite some time, but that isn't the game we play. It's much easier to imagine the few swing states needed for the electoral college to vote that way. The great thing about 2 years ago was how much it got people interested in politics. Hell even Beto might lead to Texas going blue someday. --- This used to be a worthy sig <cite>--Zero- posted [p:967528489] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>It's hard to imagine the Republicans winning the popular vote for quite some time, but that isn't the game we play. It's much easier to imagine the few swing states needed for the electoral college to vote that way.</quote>The great thing about 2 years ago was how much it got people interested in politics. Hell even Beto might lead to Texas going blue someday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/23/22 11:10:28 PM #19:	--Zero- posted... The great thing about 2 years ago was how much it got people interested in politics. Hell even Beto might lead to Texas going blue someday. Perhaps, but we really need someone that isn't Trump to win. I feel 2024 is still very much up-for-grabs for a Republican, especially depending on the economy leading up to the election. If Trump wins, not to say it's going to happen, but there's a non-zero chance that America turns to a way similar to what happened to the Roman Republic. We can't afford to feed the delusions of the far-right. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 32; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:967528595] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>--Zero- posted... </cite><quote>The great thing about 2 years ago was how much it got people interested in politics. Hell even Beto might lead to Texas going blue someday.</quote>Perhaps, but we really need someone that isn't Trump to win. I feel 2024 is still very much up-for-grabs for a Republican, especially depending on the economy leading up to the election. If Trump wins, not to say it's going to happen, but there's a non-zero chance that America turns to a way similar to what happened to the Roman Republic. We can't afford to feed the delusions of the far-right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 08/23/22 11:11:10 PM #20:	I honestly think Biden just shouldn't run again. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:967528604] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>I honestly think Biden just shouldn't run again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hoodroar 08/23/22 11:15:26 PM #21:	Trump will just call it rigged if DeSantis beats him and then DeSantis auto-loses to Biden because Trumpers won't vote. The real danger is if Trump is arrested or something, and DeSantis wins the nomination unopposed. --- sigless user logic <cite>Hoodroar posted [p:967528667] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Trump will just call it rigged if DeSantis beats him and then DeSantis auto-loses to Biden because Trumpers won't vote.The real danger is if Trump is arrested or something, and DeSantis wins the nomination unopposed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ikzai 08/23/22 11:15:40 PM #22:	Kim_Seong-a posted... I'm less concerned about Biden stuttering during debates and more concerned about how the democrats are going to get people enthused enough to vote. His whole gimmick in 2020 was "I'm not Trump. Vote for me and life will feel normal again." Like obviously there's tons of stuff the republicans shouldn't be touching and damage that needs to be undone but how is he gonna sell it to the complacent average voter who doesn't care about any issue that doesn't effect them? >___> women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up. --- Poke! Can you dig it? <cite>Ikzai posted [p:967528671] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>I'm less concerned about Biden stuttering during debates and more concerned about how the democrats are going to get people enthused enough to vote. His whole gimmick in 2020 was "I'm not Trump. Vote for me and life will feel normal again."Like obviously there's tons of stuff the republicans shouldn't be touching and damage that needs to be undone but how is he gonna sell it to the complacent average voter who doesn't care about any issue that doesn't effect them? >___></quote>women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 08/23/22 11:18:53 PM #23:	If Biden manages to pull of serious help to student loan debt its game over for the red imo But thats also wishful thinking he will do much imo --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:967528722] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>If Biden manages to pull of serious help to student loan debt its game over for the red imoBut thats also wishful thinking he will do much imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 08/23/22 11:20:52 PM #24:	Ikzai posted... women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up. Theres plenty of idiots who will vote Republican even though republicans view them as less than human. Yes theres plenty of women republicans and black republicans etc <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:967528754] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ikzai posted... </cite><quote>women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up.</quote>Theres plenty of idiots who will vote Republican even though republicans view them as less than human. Yes theres plenty of women republicans and black republicans etc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 08/23/22 11:22:10 PM #25:	Ikzai posted... women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up. God I hope. Please mind that my pessimism isn't meant to be self-gratifying. Nothing would make me happier than being proven dead wrong. Stuff like that gives me a sliver of optimism. --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:967528772] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ikzai posted... </cite><quote>women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up.</quote>God I hope.Please mind that my pessimism isn't meant to be self-gratifying. Nothing would make me happier than being proven dead wrong. Stuff like that gives me a sliver of optimism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 08/23/22 11:23:54 PM #26:	Swagger_Dagger posted... Please stop posting. It's not like they're wrong, your topic post is full of more bullshit than the average "press release" from Trump. --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:967528798] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Swagger_Dagger posted... </cite><quote>Please stop posting.</quote>It's not like they're wrong, your topic post is full of more bullshit than the average "press release" from Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoesntMatter 08/23/22 11:28:46 PM #27:	DeSantis has a zero percent chance of winning. he doesn't have the capability of rallying enough gullible idiots to vote for him like Trump somehow inexplicably does. to a large portion of Republican voters right now, it doesn't matter who is on the ticket in 2024, if it's not Trump, they are going to cast a write-in vote for him anyway. nothing will make them do anything different, even if Trump gets legally barred from holding office from this espionage investigation. <cite>DoesntMatter posted [p:967528879] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DeSantis has a zero percent chance of winning. he doesn't have the capability of rallying enough gullible idiots to vote for him like Trump somehow inexplicably does. to a large portion of Republican voters right now, it doesn't matter who is on the ticket in 2024, if it's not Trump, they are going to cast a write-in vote for him anyway. nothing will make them do anything different, even if Trump gets legally barred from holding office from this espionage investigation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 08/23/22 11:29:16 PM #28:	DeSantis is the smart version of Trump, so f Republicans rally behind him he will become dictator status (sometime Republicans will support if it means killing off Democrats, they always threatened us with Civil War if we didnt approve of Trump). The smartest thing Republicans can do is run DeSantis Trump, Trump as VP on the idea that DeSantis does this to pardon him and his family. After that GG anyone who is vocal against GOP or Republicans its either imprisonment or death. Even Republicans on this board are getting giddy with excitement reading my post. --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:967528891] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DeSantis is the smart version of Trump, so f Republicans rally behind him he will become dictator status (sometime Republicans will support if it means killing off Democrats, they always threatened us with Civil War if we didnt approve of Trump). The smartest thing Republicans can do is run DeSantis Trump, Trump as VP on the idea that DeSantis does this to pardon him and his family. After that GG anyone who is vocal against GOP or Republicans its either imprisonment or death. Even Republicans on this board are getting giddy with excitement reading my post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 08/23/22 11:33:07 PM #29:	I hope we're in the timeline where Trump gets arrested and his supporters cannibalize the GOP from the inside out --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:967528961] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>I hope we're in the timeline where Trump gets arrested and his supporters cannibalize the GOP from the inside out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackBlueButts 08/23/22 11:34:22 PM #30:	Kloe_Rinz posted... Theres plenty of idiots who will vote Republican even though republicans view them as less than human. Yes theres plenty of women republicans and black republicans etc Why would people vote against their own self interests like that? --- I like black and blue butts <cite>BlackBlueButts posted [p:967528977] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>Theres plenty of idiots who will vote Republican even though republicans view them as less than human. Yes theres plenty of women republicans and black republicans etc</quote>Why would people vote against their own self interests like that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/23/22 11:34:29 PM #31:	They should let Trump run third party from prison --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:967528982] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>They should let Trump run third party from prison </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 08/23/22 11:34:45 PM #32:	I guess I would have to vote for Biden if this is who we get. --- So long, Thanks for all the fish! <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:967528986] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>I guess I would have to vote for Biden if this is who we get. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/23/22 11:34:49 PM #33:	The biggest hurdle I see is that, after Roe was overturned, the narrative of Democrat voters immediately switched to "Why the fuck should we bother voting for you, when you never deliver and just make empty promises over and over?" Which... is a very, very valid point of criticism for the establishment party. A lot of what we're dealing with now is a result of having a ton of stale, limp, weak, corporate loving career politicians in office. Biden being a chief example. The issue is, while we should ABSOLUTELY demand better, the reality of the situation is that this kind of narrative and mentality tends to result in lower voter turnouts, which results in republican wins. See: Hillary 2016. Voters simultaneously despise the rights while growing increasingly disenfranchised with our slightly-less-right left. The right is fired up, mobilized, loud and proud, while the left is still firmly plugging its nose. And the negative discourse is only going to keep that going, and a disaffected voter base is a weak voter base. The worst case scenario isn't DeSantis or Trump running again. It's the democrats trying to force Biden again. If he's the frontrunner in 2016, it's over. We lose. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967528989] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>The biggest hurdle I see is that, after Roe was overturned, the narrative of Democrat voters immediately switched to "Why the fuck should we bother voting for you, when you never deliver and just make empty promises over and over?"Which... is a very, very valid point of criticism for the establishment party. A lot of what we're dealing with now is a result of having a ton of stale, limp, weak, corporate loving career politicians in office. Biden being a chief example.The issue is, while we should ABSOLUTELY demand better, the reality of the situation is that this kind of narrative and mentality tends to result in lower voter turnouts, which results in republican wins. See: Hillary 2016. Voters simultaneously despise the rights while growing increasingly disenfranchised with our slightly-less-right left. The right is fired up, mobilized, loud and proud, while the left is still firmly plugging its nose. And the negative discourse is only going to keep that going, and a disaffected voter base is a weak voter base.The worst case scenario isn't DeSantis or Trump running again. It's the democrats trying to force Biden again. If he's the frontrunner in 2016, it's over. We lose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 08/23/22 11:34:52 PM #34:	The reason Trump has such a following is literally because he was a fantastic troll on twitter. Thats it, thats the only reason. People love a good troll. --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:967528992] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>The reason Trump has such a following is literally because he was a fantastic troll on twitter. Thats it, thats the only reason. People love a good troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 08/23/22 11:38:20 PM #35:	BlackBlueButts posted... Why would people vote against their own self interests like that? We dont know, but Republicans have a lot of support, part of which is the electoral college I.e. Wyoming has 3 electoral votes and California has 55 votes yet both states only are Represented by 2 Senators each. --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:967529055] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>BlackBlueButts posted... </cite><quote>Why would people vote against their own self interests like that?</quote>We dont know, but Republicans have a lot of support, part of which is the electoral college I.e. Wyoming has 3 electoral votes and California has 55 votes yet both states only are Represented by 2 Senators each.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VigorouslySwish 08/23/22 11:40:42 PM #37:	BlackBlueButts posted... Why would people vote against their own self interests like that? Lack of education --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:967529081] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>BlackBlueButts posted... </cite><quote>Why would people vote against their own self interests like that?</quote>Lack of education</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 08/23/22 11:44:42 PM #38:	So who do you guys want the Democrats To run then? It cant be Biden or Kamala, that is an auto-lose for Trump. it might have to be Gavin Newsom --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:967529123] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>So who do you guys want the Democrats To run then? It cant be Biden or Kamala, that is an auto-lose for Trump. it might have to be Gavin Newsom</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/23/22 11:47:32 PM #39:	Ajiri posted... So who do you guys want the Democrats To run then? It cant be Biden or Kamala, that is an auto-lose for Trump. it might have to be Gavin Newsom I'll be honest, I'm pretty sure AOC is the only person they have right now with the energy, vision, passionate support base, personality, and gusto to adequately stand up to a Trump bid, eight now. The extreme has to be met with the extreme. Plus, not to put too fine a point on it, but she is factually pretty good looking, and ridiculous as it is, that does play a factor in a lowest common denominator popularity contest. Too bad the establishment party hates her fuckin guts. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967529175] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>So who do you guys want the Democrats To run then? It cant be Biden or Kamala, that is an auto-lose for Trump. it might have to be Gavin Newsom</quote>I'll be honest, I'm pretty sure AOC is the only person they have right now with the energy, vision, passionate support base, personality, and gusto to adequately stand up to a Trump bid, eight now. The extreme has to be met with the extreme.Plus, not to put too fine a point on it, but she is factually pretty good looking, and ridiculous as it is, that does play a factor in a lowest common denominator popularity contest.Too bad the establishment party hates her fuckin guts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hoodroar 08/23/22 11:47:42 PM #40:	Ajiri posted... So who do you guys want the Democrats To run then? It cant be Biden or Kamala, that is an auto-lose for Trump. it might have to be Gavin Newsom Newsom would have to win a brutal primary against Harris and some progressive candidate, and would come out also a member of the auto-lose category. No real good options against a DeSantis with the whole GOP behind him. --- sigless user logic <cite>Hoodroar posted [p:967529178] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted...</cite><quote>So who do you guys want the Democrats To run then? It cant be Biden or Kamala, that is an auto-lose for Trump. it might have to be Gavin Newsom</quote>Newsom would have to win a brutal primary against Harris and some progressive candidate, and would come out also a member of the auto-lose category.No real good options against a DeSantis with the whole GOP behind him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/23/22 11:50:59 PM #41:	I used to be an AOC hater, but the moderate left is not the answer, nor has it ever. This country's shining moments are always when radical freedom is given, and I think she's the one that can make it happen. I would say Bernie, but I fear his time as a potential candidate is coming to an end. Of course, at the age of 35 in 2024, I don't see her chances of winning as all too likely as this country is overwhelmed by the idea that the elderly are the wisest and will vote in the interest of the future and not the past. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 32; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:967529234] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>I used to be an AOC hater, but the moderate left is not the answer, nor has it ever. This country's shining moments are always when radical freedom is given, and I think she's the one that can make it happen. I would say Bernie, but I fear his time as a potential candidate is coming to an end. Of course, at the age of 35 in 2024, I don't see her chances of winning as all too likely as this country is overwhelmed by the idea that the elderly are the wisest and will vote in the interest of the future and not the past. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 08/23/22 11:51:32 PM #42:	DarkBuster22904 posted... I'll be honest, I'm pretty sure AOC is the only person they have right now with the energy, vision, passionate support base, personality, and gusto to adequately stand up to a Trump bid, eight now. The extreme has to be met with the extreme. Plus, not to put too fine a point on it, but she is factually pretty good looking, and ridiculous as it is, that does play a factor in a lowest common denominator popularity contest. Too bad the establishment party hates her fuckin guts. Shes also too young, you have to be 35 years old to serve as President --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:967529247] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>I'll be honest, I'm pretty sure AOC is the only person they have right now with the energy, vision, passionate support base, personality, and gusto to adequately stand up to a Trump bid, eight now. The extreme has to be met with the extreme.Plus, not to put too fine a point on it, but she is factually pretty good looking, and ridiculous as it is, that does play a factor in a lowest common denominator popularity contest.Too bad the establishment party hates her fuckin guts.</quote>Shes also too young, you have to be 35 years old to serve as President </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/23/22 11:52:42 PM #43:	Ajiri posted... Shes also too young, you have to be 35 years old to serve as President IN 2024, she will technically be eligible. You have to be 35 prior to being sworn in, and she'll be 35 before the election even. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 32; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:967529261] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>Shes also too young, you have to be 35 years old to serve as President</quote>IN 2024, she will technically be eligible. You have to be 35 prior to being sworn in, and she'll be 35 before the election even.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ajiri 08/23/22 11:56:06 PM #44:	PiOverlord posted... IN 2024, she will technically be eligible. You have to be 35 prior to being sworn in, and she'll be 35 before the election even. Ahh okay, didnt know that. Sorry --- WIRED https://www.youtube.com/user/wired <cite>Ajiri posted [p:967529317] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>PiOverlord posted... </cite><quote>IN 2024, she will technically be eligible. You have to be 35 prior to being sworn in, and she'll be 35 before the election even.</quote>Ahh okay, didnt know that. Sorry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 08/23/22 11:58:46 PM #45:	Ajiri posted... Ahh okay, didnt know that. Sorry Nah, you good. The age thing isn't really a thing that we ever had to really discuss as no big potential candidate ever was below that age. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 32; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:967529351] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ajiri posted... </cite><quote>Ahh okay, didnt know that. Sorry</quote>Nah, you good. The age thing isn't really a thing that we ever had to really discuss as no big potential candidate ever was below that age.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/24/22 12:03:19 AM #46:	DarkBuster22904 posted... The worst case scenario isn't DeSantis or Trump running again. It's the democrats trying to force Biden again. If he's the frontrunner in 2016, it's over. We lose. I have good news and bad news about that. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:967529421] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>The worst case scenario isn't DeSantis or Trump running again. It's the democrats trying to force Biden again. If he's the frontrunner in 2016, it's over. We lose.</quote>I have good news and bad news about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 08/24/22 12:22:43 AM #47:	Biden running is a pretty surefire way to win another term for the Democrats. Not like they have a better candidate in the woodworks anyways. DeSantis is a joke, and let's not judge his intelligence with Trump as the fucking standards lol. --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/krtFHol.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:967529673] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Biden running is a pretty surefire way to win another term for the Democrats. Not like they have a better candidate in the woodworks anyways. DeSantis is a joke, and let's not judge his intelligence with Trump as the fucking standards lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mibahlzitch 08/24/22 12:27:12 AM #48:	Ikzai posted... women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up. When people claim Biden only has not Trump as his appeal it's clear they're operating from a pre Roe v Wade removal concern troll playbook. Sorry kids, your supreme court overplayed their hand and Democrats are motivated again. --- It's all true. <cite>Mibahlzitch posted [p:967529728] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Ikzai posted... </cite><quote>women in PA are registering to vote in droves in response to Republicans telling them what they can do to their bodies. Don't underestimate how much of a fools move overturning Roe v Wade could end up.</quote>When people claim Biden only has not Trump as his appeal it's clear they're operating from a pre Roe v Wade removal concern troll playbook.Sorry kids, your supreme court overplayed their hand and Democrats are motivated again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 08/24/22 12:31:34 AM #49:	Hopefully Biden can keep it together until then. If he drops out and Kamala runs in his place the Democrats might as well not even bother and give the presidency to whoever tf the Republican candidate is. I know people would like AOC to run, but I feel like they underestimate how much the status quo Dems in her own party would do to sabotage her. They wouldnt even give old man Bernie a shot because they where too worried about him coming for their own pockets. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:967529808] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully Biden can keep it together until then. If he drops out and Kamala runs in his place the Democrats might as well not even bother and give the presidency to whoever tf the Republican candidate is.I know people would like AOC to run, but I feel like they underestimate how much the status quo Dems in her own party would do to sabotage her. They wouldnt even give old man Bernie a shot because they where too worried about him coming for their own pockets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 08/24/22 12:40:46 AM #50:	People underestimate how easy it is to actually win a 2nd term as long as you don't do something crazy like spread a deadly virus due to negligence. --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/krtFHol.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:967529943] in Desantis v... [t:80140462]...</cite> <quote>People underestimate how easy it is to actually win a 2nd term as long as you don't do something crazy like spread a deadly virus due to negligence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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