Current Events > So if all the bad guys in harry potter had the death spell, why was voldemort

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Such a big deal? They can all kill you.

You can't kill him with it tho right?

Anyone irl can kill you. Why was Hitler such a big deal?

Voldemort was essentially wizard-Hitler. He had the charisma to gather a following that managed to usurp the government and threaten the lives of all those they deemed 'muggle-born.'

Was he not immortal?

WingsOfGood posted...

Was he not immortal?

No one knew he was a immortal, so that wouldn't be the reason he was a big deal.

Wouldn't a gun work just as well?

pegusus123456 posted...

No one knew he was a immortal, so that wouldn't be the reason he was a big deal.

So all these guys got death spell but never tried to kill him?

I don't buy it

simp5 posted...

Such a big deal? They can all kill you.

Watch newest fantastic beast movie. Wizards go supee saiyan light speed now.

Southernfatman posted...

Wouldn't a gun work just as well?

They should have just sent a wizard to the muggle world, to a gun shop. Bring it back to hogwarts. When voldemort appears, shoot him in the head. I read somewhere that supposedly that would have worked, according to the lore. Wizards apparently have no defense against guns

They just don't use them cause....reasons?

Zikten posted...

They should have just sent a wizard to the muggle world, to a gun shop. Bring it back to hogwarts. When voldemort appears, shoot him in the head. I read somewhere that supposedly that would have worked, according to the lore. Wizards apparently have no defense against guns

They just don't use them cause....reasons?

Voldemort would beat most people who have a gun. The quote from Rowling was something like, "The average guy with a shotgun would beat the average wizard with a wand."

The general power level of Harry Potter magic is pretty low.

Zikten posted...

They should have just sent a wizard to the muggle world, to a gun shop. Bring it back to hogwarts. When voldemort appears, shoot him in the head. I read somewhere that supposedly that would have worked, according to the lore. Wizards apparently have no defense against guns

They just don't use them cause....reasons?

So it would be like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo

pegusus123456 posted...

Voldemort would beat most people who have a gun. The quote from Rowling was something like, "The average guy with a shotgun would beat the average wizard with a wand."

The general power level of Harry Potter magic is pretty low.

What about a bunch of soldiers? Say muggles learned that Voldemort exists AND they find out where he is hiding. The UK sends a squad of 20 elite soldiers with modern tactical weaponry to infiltrate and eliminate the target

Southernfatman posted...

So it would be like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo

That is how the last book/movie should have ended

Are there not physical protection spells? Against sticks and stones, arrows, a roof caving in, bullets? Some sort of deflective shield.

Maybe that should be where franchise goes next.

Modern day.

Give wizard a gun. On some special up team or something.

Zikten posted...

What about a bunch of soldiers? Say muggles learned that Voldemort exists AND they find out where he is hiding. The UK sends a squad of 20 elite soldiers with modern tactical weaponry to infiltrate and eliminate the target

If he knows that theyre coming he could probably still win. He can cast spells that would render him invisible, mind control the soldiers, create large scale hazards that would take them out in en masse, or simply teleport away from them.

It would all be about getting close enough to him without him knowing about it. If you can shoot Voldemort, he will die, horcruxes notwithstanding. Hell, just shoot a missile at his location from miles away. You could probably take him out that way.

Vol de Mort means flight from death.

Runeboggle posted...

Anyone irl can kill you. Why was Hitler such a big deal?

A better analogy is John Wick. Lots of people have guns, but none of them are as deadly as John Wick. Voldemort is feared because he is far more skilled and powerful than the average wizard.

Any one with magic can (potentially) kill you with a spell. Voldemort is just better at it.

The killing curse is actually a pretty demanding spell and as simple as it should be it doesn't get cast much in live combat. Iirc most of its uses in the books were in assassination scenarios where the victim was ambushed or otherwise couldn't defend themselves.

Didnt he Avada on baby Harry, and the protection spell basically made it backfire and hit himself?

Voldemort practically using Avada Kadavra on himself and he still lived. Thats why.

MisterPengy posted...

A better analogy is John Wick. Lots of people have guns, but none of them are as deadly as John Wick. Voldemort is feared because he is far more skilled and powerful than the average wizard.

Any one with magic can (potentially) kill you with a spell. Voldemort is just better at it.

Voldemort used a pencil as a wand

A fucking pencil!

Southernfatman posted...

So it would be like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo

Abra-Kada-Br.....

If there's an unlockable (except for one time) instant kill spell, what's the point of lesser attacking spells?

Umbreon posted...

If there's an unlockable (except for one time) instant kill spell, what's the point of lesser attacking spells?

To not go to wizard prison

Umbreon posted...

If there's an unlockable (except for one time) instant kill spell, what's the point of lesser attacking spells?

What's the point of tasers, bean bag rounds, pepper spray, or blanks when good old bullets can just shoot someone dead? Cause sometimes you're just not out there trying to kill someone.

Umbreon posted...

If there's an unlockable (except for one time) instant kill spell, what's the point of lesser attacking spells?

It's because Rowling sucks at writing combat. There was a few paragraphs in book 4 on how you need to be powerful and really mean it to actually pull off the killing curse, but other than that no mention is ever made (as far as I remember) of it being a difficult spell to use effectively.

As an example, and this is spoilery, there's a scene where Dumbledore and Voldemort fight. Lots of spells get cast, few actually hit their target. Imagine in a battle like that, you're constantly using the most difficult or exhausting spell. You'd be worn out for no reason. But Rowling doesn't really do a good job of show casing it.

So I guess it's a bit like asking, in a boxing match, why don't they constantly do roundhouse kicks and haymakers?

Why do they jab instead of throwing one hit knock outs in boxing?

MisterPengy posted...

It's because Rowling sucks at writing combat. There was a few paragraphs in book 4 on how you need to be powerful and really mean it to actually pull off the killing curse, but other than that no mention is ever made (as far as I remember) of it being a difficult spell to use effectively.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Like if the Killing Curse had a high cost or was super difficult to cast then I get holding off on it, but I don't remember there ever being any downside to using it if you're strong enough to use it in the first place. Pretty much anyone who uses it is evil so no moral objections when it comes to those folks.

Foppe posted...

Why do they jab instead of throwing one hit knock outs in boxing?

Right, but imagine those one hit punches were just as fast and safe as a jab, if not better. Imagine if there was zero downside to going for the OHKO.