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Are elves and dwarves explicitly all white in Tolkien's universe?

The thing that stood out to me the most was the elves standing in formation looking in aww the whole boat ride

Yes, they are both based off Europeans. Other races had different fictional counterparts in the Tolkein universe (which I don't consider this Amazon show to be a part of).

People get mad when there are black humans in their shows nowadays

I can umderstand not liking the decision due to 'canon', but getting mad about it, review bombing because of it is immature, petty and shows your true colors.

I just wish diversity extended enough to include cute Korean girl elves but maybe next season

None of that matters to canon though. Like The Tale of Turin Turambar doesn't suddenly change if Beleg Strongbow is a black elf. All that matters is he is an elf.

The biggest crime of Rings of Power is how it is destroying established lore and introduces non-existing characters to do so. Skin colour is such a non issue.

My issue would be why aren't there any Asian and Mexican elves, if they're going to diversify the film, add the whole team.

Def need more Asian and Hispanic diversity if we're going to go this route.

It really does seem diversity just means "more black people." And if black representation is all they care about, just say so. Seems cruel to fool Asians and Hispanics into think they're included.

Ill be honest, Im really only familiar with the Hobbit and LotR books, but how exactly is Rings of Power destroying established lore?

One of the biggest ones is how they make Galadriel a vengeful fighter, when she never was one in the books.

One of the biggest ones is how they make Galadriel a vengeful fighter, when she never was one in the books.

The issue is why it is only stories based off of European history/myth/legend/folklore that needs to be made "diverse" and not anything else. And as has already been pointed out its not diversity it's just 'add a bunch of black people just because.' Whenever a story from any other culture gets made, whether it's a real or fictional story, it has to be authentic with getting people who look the part, as it should, but when it comes to stories from European history then all of a sudden only having people who look the part is "racist."

Aside from the fact that Tolkien described the elves as being fair skinned, elves specifically are a European myth. All the stories about them come from Europe. In the Germanic languages the word elf literally means 'white being.'

scar_the_1 posted... She's one of the oldest and most powerful elves alive by the time of LotR, it's not really unthinkable that she was an action hero during some parts of her pretty sparsely documented life.

Maybe there an existing power dynamic in society that kinda plays an important part here...

It really does seem diversity just means "more black people." And if black representation is all they care about, just say so. Seems cruel to fool Asians and Hispanics into think they're included.

One of the biggest ones is how they make Galadriel a vengeful fighter, when she never was one in the books.

Reminder that Tolkien spent his entire life changing and rewriting his own lore

Except this is also wrong.

Stop bullshitting. She was literally married to Celeborn (who she is still married to in the third age) and he isn't even in the show. It is not close to accurate and Galadriel is a completely different character more akin to Eowyn than she is Galadriel.

She's specifically mentioned in the Silmarillion

He created the series and made his son the steward of it. The idea that this is comparable to two randoms that a corporate behemoth like Amazon hired to throw something on screen is utterly laughable. They are NOT CLOSE to similar.

Take that garbage argument somewhere else.

I remember when you made a topic complaining about the dude who plays Corlys in House of the Dragon because he was black.