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s0nicfan 09/07/22 5:32:26 PM #51: |
g0ldie posted... this isn't true. I understand that there are some parallels, but Hutu killing Tutsi isn't the same a Germans killing Germans. Magneto obsessed over being betrayed by "his" people, not by a different ethnic group that lived in the same region. That's why he decided that "his" people were mutants and he can never accept Xavier's vision of the future because his betrayal at the hands of "his own people" is proof mutants can never live side-by-side with humans. Then later he invented the term Homo Superior to justify his oppression of humans, becoming the very monster he sought to destroy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/07/22 5:41:22 PM #52: |
what I'm saying, though, is that someone with a Tutsi father and a Hutu mother, for example, would be seen as Tutsi, and vice-versa if the ethnic groups of the parents switched. so you had people who were intermingled, who loved each other, but who had to kill the other when the calls came, so that same level of betrayal existed. family killed each other. there were also cases where the Tutsi were killing other Tutsi alongside the Hutu, and Hutu who were killed during the genocide. so it's a lot more nuanced than that. plus, people saw themselves as Rwandans, but had their ethnicities stamped on their identification cards, but it's a small country where people knew each other in their communities. --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CommonStar 09/07/22 5:50:04 PM #53: |
This is Disney, I don't think they'll be going that deep into it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 09/07/22 5:51:32 PM #54: |
g0ldie posted... what I'm saying, though, is that someone with a Tutsi father and a Hutu mother, for example, would be seen as Tutsi, and vice-versa if the ethnic groups of the parents switched. At the end of the day, I'm sure it will be fine, and I also recognize that trying to keep Magneto tied to the Holocaust is a losing battle. I just think there's something very specific about the circumstances and how the character has evolved over time that can't be transplanted to a different genocide without losing a little something along the way. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 09/07/22 5:54:42 PM #55: |
Everyone between John and Denzel I feel I should know but have no idea, one was the office dude apparently though after looking at the pic --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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11110111011 09/07/22 5:57:08 PM #56: |
Don't care. Superhero movies are played out. Do something different. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/07/22 5:58:41 PM #57: |
s0nicfan posted... At the end of the day, I'm sure it will be fine, and I also recognize that trying to keep Magneto tied to the Holocaust is a losing battle. I just think there's something very specific about the circumstances and how the character has evolved over time that can't be transplanted to a different genocide without losing a little something along the way.if it means anything, I don't think the Rwandan Genocide would have happened had the Germans not colonized it, and brought their concepts of race. but on the other hand, the Holocaust was partly inspired by Californian eugenicists, so idk. --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Onimusha 09/07/22 6:03:41 PM #58: |
Xethuminra posted... More Mr Fantastic ? --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dancing_cactuar 09/07/22 6:07:58 PM #59: |
masterpug53 posted... Might actually be some truth to the rumor that Giancarlo will play Professor X, which would be awesome.I hate to admit it, but Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, The Boys, and Payday have distorted Giancarlo Esposito's image for me to the point where I cannot in any capacity imagine him playing a character like Xavier. NonDairyMiltank posted... glad to hear Boyega getting another shot at screentime after he was done dirty with Star WarsYou should see Breaking, the movie's alright but Boyega really takes it to another level. --- I don't need to see a movie to know how well the characters are handled- Danyarmy The PS5 has liquid metal tech like the T-1000 Terminator- AceCombatX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/07/22 6:09:05 PM #60: |
11110111011 posted... Don't care. Superhero movies are played out. Do something different.Why would Marvel Studios do something that isn't superhero movies? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png Your uneducated opinions are worthless. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Popo 09/07/22 6:31:48 PM #61: |
John krasinski as the new black panther ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 09/07/22 6:39:13 PM #62: |
It would be great if Henry Cavell played Hyperion considering he is almost a parody of Superman in a lot of ways --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 09/07/22 6:41:39 PM #63: |
masterpug53 posted... I had no idea the MCU would ever land Denzel, but if they truly have, I suddenly find myself hoping he'll play Magneto.I was coming in trying to think of who could be a match for Esposito's Xavier and there it fucking is. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 09/07/22 6:50:10 PM #64: |
What has John boyega done that was good? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 09/07/22 6:53:08 PM #65: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted... What has John boyega done that was good?Attack the Block is a fucking masterpiece. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 09/07/22 6:54:17 PM #66: |
Fuck me, was he one of the bad guys in that before they all started fighting the monsters? --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/07/22 9:48:05 PM #67: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted... What has John boyega done that was good?a movie called Breaking, where people are comparing his performance to Denzel's --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 09/07/22 9:58:00 PM #68: |
Jodie Comer is so fine ngl --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/07/22 10:09:43 PM #69: |
To extrapolate on some of these rumors another leak is saying: - Krasinski is indeed playing 616 Reed, opposite Jodie Comer as Sue in Matt Shakman's Fantastic Four - Henry Cavill will be playing an important Avenger from Jonathan Hickman's run who ISN'T Hyperion - Amazing Spider-Man 3 is in early development and Andrew Garfield is in early negotiations to be in another project besides Secret Wars where Marvel Studios will have a hand in it - Ross Lynch is a frontrunner to play Johnny Storm with Rudy Pankow also being considered Keep in mind these are all rumors and should be taken with a grain of salt. But they mostly line up with other things being said --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 09/07/22 10:11:06 PM #70: |
Really not a fan of changing Magneto's origin story. At all. --- MSI MEG X570 Unify | Ryzen 7 5800X | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/07/22 10:12:24 PM #71: |
DarthAragorn posted... Really not a fan of changing Magneto's origin story. At all. I agree. I think Denzel could be a great Magneto but the character really should remain Jewish --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/07/22 10:12:52 PM #72: |
it's just an unsubstantiated rumor at this point --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 09/07/22 10:14:10 PM #73: |
They should go with someone else for Reed Richards imo. also I think changing Magneto's backstory is inevitable at this point whether we like it or not. Denzel Washington as Magneto would be insane. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/07/22 10:15:49 PM #74: |
Smashingpmkns posted... They should go with someone else for Reed Richards imo. I really think it's a case of him not having much to really work with. I think I remember one of the main cast members saying he didn't even film his scene in the same room as them --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 09/07/22 10:20:01 PM #75: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted... I really think it's a case of him not having much to really work with.That's like half of how those movies are filmed though. A quarter of these actors have probably never even met eachother on set. Compared to the other I also don't like him as an actor very much so I'm incredibly biased --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 09/07/22 10:23:54 PM #76: |
I get not wanting to change Magneto's backstory but I also don't see how you can keep it with the holocaust being 80 or so years ago at this point, which means even if he was a kid he'd be 85-90 in modern times. I guess you could do some shenanigans with mutant's aging slower or something to make up for it. You could easily just make him a victim of a different, slightly more modern genocide like Rwanda or Bosnia and accomplish the same thing. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/07/22 10:27:06 PM #77: |
Smashingpmkns posted... That's like half of how those movies are filmed though. A quarter of these actors have probably never even met eachother on set. Tbf, --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/07/22 10:31:43 PM #78: |
Also another leak. It appears that Wakanda Forever is currently doing some reshoots. Many people are speculating that these will be for --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 09/07/22 10:35:38 PM #79: |
s0nicfan posted... trying to keep Magneto tied to the Holocaust is a losing battle. They could just Steve Rogers the dude. Magneto escapes the nazis, convenient plot device has him in stasis until whatever period they want Xavier to be from, resume the traditional dynamic between the two. --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 09/07/22 10:39:01 PM #80: |
ScazarMeltex posted... I get not wanting to change Magneto's backstory but I also don't see how you can keep it with the holocaust being 80 or so years ago at this point, which means even if he was a kid he'd be 85-90 in modern times. I guess you could do some shenanigans with mutant's aging slower or something to make up for it. You could easily just make him a victim of a different, slightly more modern genocide like Rwanda or Bosnia and accomplish the same thing. Kim_Seong-a posted... They could just Steve Rogers the dude. Magneto escapes the nazis, convenient plot device has him in stasis until whatever period they want Xavier to be from, resume the traditional dynamic between the two.He's a fucking mutant. Magnetic powers make him age slower. Done. --- MSI MEG X570 Unify | Ryzen 7 5800X | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/07/22 10:42:00 PM #81: |
I also think that when they're introduced, the X-Men and mutants will be established in some way in-universe (or multiverse), so if Magneto is shown, it doesn't necessarily need to be during a current timeline. like, they could be fighting him in the 90s, or something. --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/07/22 10:44:42 PM #82: |
g0ldie posted... I also think that when they're introduced, the X-Men and mutants will be established in some way in-universe (or multiverse), so if Magneto is shown, it doesn't necessarily need to be during a current timeline. IDK though, I feel like Magneto is such an iconic baddie they'll probably want to keep him around for present-day MCU stuff --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/07/22 10:47:57 PM #83: |
true. but I mean maybe not have him be so old in his first encounter with the X-Men and then have him (and the rest of them) be older in later encounters. unless if he joins them later on. --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 09/07/22 10:49:22 PM #84: |
KiwiTerraRizing posted... Hmm, the X-men with Magnetos rage born from segregation and racism in the USA instead of the holocaust. Denzel would be great at that. Survivor of Rwandan genocide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HornyLevel 09/07/22 10:54:20 PM #85: |
gikos posted... i would love the maker to make his debut but i feel he needs a lot of build up for him to be done justice and then there is my hope of seeing ether onslaught or shuma gorath (enough with the teasing disney) as the big major villain for the mcuYeah, I guess the build up would have to start real soon for them do to anything with Phase 5 and 6. I was just thinking that they're bound to do a character that will be played by two different actors, one from the MCU and one being either a refugee or invader from another universe. I liked that multiple Spidey concept in No Way Home, but the other --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSMajinVegeta2 09/07/22 10:54:53 PM #86: |
Bring on Denzel --- On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer. Satoru Iwata, 1959 - 2015 RIP GP God bless ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 09/08/22 8:46:36 AM #87: |
dancing_cactuar posted... I hate to admit it, but Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, The Boys, and Payday have distorted Giancarlo Esposito's image for me to the point where I cannot in any capacity imagine him playing a character like Xavier. I think we'll all get used to it. Try to focus on how good he was at playing a calm, collected, soft-spoken authoritative figure as Gus (on a good day, at least). Maybe he could bring an edge to the character where he's constantly fighting the urge to give everyone on the planet a massive aneurysm because he's so sick of everyone's bullshit (I don't know the character very well outside of the movies, but DoFP at least touched on a dark period of Xavier's life where he was pretty much over giving a shit). DarthAragorn posted... He's a fucking mutant. https://imgur.com/GlF86sN I mean, everyone just loved it when the McAvoy / Fassbender timeline skipped a decade between movies and none of these characters seemed to age in the slightest, right? --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 09/08/22 8:59:33 AM #88: |
If not Magneto, then I hope Denzel gets to play Blue Marvel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/1/AACpnzAADpqj.jpg --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 09/08/22 9:02:50 AM #89: |
Hornezz posted... If not Magneto, then I hope Denzel gets to play Blue Marvel. You know...I was thinking of someone Denzel would be besides Magneto and I totally forgot how much of a perfect fit he'd be for this character. --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 09/08/22 9:05:02 AM #90: |
maybe John Boyega can play a younger version and Denzel in the modern day --- https://streamable.com/zrtjki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 09/08/22 11:59:19 AM #91: |
Samuel L Jackson's Nick Fury has *always* been a huge highlight of the MCU since before it was even the MCU technically. They adapted his character straight out of the Ultimate comics, if you remember those. A big part of that appeal is because he's black. I mean, he's arguably a bigger icon of representation and role modeling than Black Panther. He's the real leader or founder and driving force behind the Avengers. He can do no wrong, but his character gets political and has more real world compromises than a super hero. He doesn't beat people up, but he's actually willing to break a few more eggs than any Avenger. So, now we have Kang which is awesome but hasn't proven itself to be up to snuff in those departments. Kang is a villain anyway, so it will just be different and comparing him with Fury over Thanos or something probably isnt unfair or risks being offensive, or outright dumb, but anyway Casting a black Xavier and a black Magneto could reach those points again for the audience with the benefit of subtly addressing racial tensions in the MCU, which tend to have gotten pretty high with stuff like Falcon becoming Captain America, and a lot of new characters who are played by minorities, and this just on obviously leads to a question of equality both within and outside of the MCU. I mean, half their American audience is probably black. So, I'm okay with this. I'm excited for it. As a huge plus, they don't really have to compete with the other X-Men movies for looking comic accurate, and like Guardians of the Galaxy they have a chance to reinvent X-Men altogether. Racial tension could make it as a relevant as ever. Vs the 2000 X-Men which was kind of a freaks, geeks, sex, and god thing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Popo 09/10/22 10:07:03 PM #92: |
So much for this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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