Current Events > Little black girls react to the new little mermaid. Why the BS is worth it.

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Funny you should mention that when the race of the characters is never specified in it.

Funny you should mention that when the race of the characters is never specified in it.

Today I learned that anthropology is a complete lie and everything it has ever concluded is factually wrong, all because of this poster /sarcasm

It's very much a thing and I don't see how anyone could think otherwise.

No, today you learned that people like to spin things in a way that suits them, but that those spins aren't necessarily true. They're just subjective points of view. If someone sees something a certain way, that doesn't make their view any kind of objective reality.

Yes, I literally said this to you and you told me I was wrong lol

You have to understand that people only ever write about themselves or people that look exactly like them. Its just science, you can't argue science.

No, today you learned that people like to spin things in a way that suits them, but that those spins aren't necessarily true. They're just subjective points of view. If someone sees something a certain way, that doesn't make their view any kind of objective reality.

People, especially children, gravitate towards people that "look like them" succeeding or be put in places of power.

Their actual politics aside, Barack Obama becoming President and Kamala Harris being the current VP were a HUGE deal to many people that don't even follow politics.

But it's factually dead wrong. There's no such thing as "racial/ethnic identity" (except in someone's messed up head). That's a load of made up bullshit. Racist made up bullshit.

Kind of like your views on this topic.

Summary of Stages of Racial Identity Development https://www.wvc.edu/students/support/diversity/Stages%20of%20Racial%20Identity%20Development.pdf

Lmfao somehow this isn't even the most pathetic troll post in the thread

What the fuck are you on because you're blabbering incoherently and incorrect things. Ethnic identities are a thing.

As literally one of those (47), I'm mature enough to know if it's good it's good, and if it sucks don't blame "diversity!".

Catwoman should have taught us this, and holy shit its the same actress.

Again, you're describing what goes on in the heads of people. That's not necessarily reality.

Lmfao can't tell if this post is satire or not.

It's not the same actress.

Kind of like you didn't say anything here. Which is no surprise, because you have nothing to say.

There is quite clearly a wave of race- and gender-swapping in Hollywood. This is because studios are afraid the "woke" culture will condemn them for not incorporating more diversity into their casts. Diversity is fine, but when you unnecessarily change the race/sex/etc. of an established character you are inevitably going to anger people, then you fall back on "well you just don't like it because you're a racist or a sexist or a bigot." Bullshit. Come up with an original story. Create a heroic black character, a heroic gay character, a heroic trans character, whatever. But make it original. Stop rehashing old stories and changing the central character and acting like that's enough.

You're right, systemic racism is a thing that exists. And we should dismantle power structures that enable it and lead to these reactions that you don't like.

This is sort of what confused me. I couldnt relate to that guy in the article because I was never like him and saying stuff like Wow, look at Ichiro Suzuki! Hes inspirational to me because hes Japanese! when I watched baseball with my brother. I never watched shows to connect with the actors themselves, or think that they were depictions on how life should be. It never really occurred to me that people would become that invested in the things beyond the show itself.

This is sort of what confused me. I couldnt relate to that guy in the article because I was never like him and saying stuff like Wow, look at Ichiro Suzuki! Hes inspirational to me because hes Japanese! when I watched baseball with my brother. I never watched shows to connect with the actors themselves, or think that they were depictions on how life should be. It never really occurred to me that people would become that invested in the things beyond the show itself.

The gender gap in involvement among Asians is consistent with research highlighting the emasculation of Asian American men as well studies that document their marginalization from internet mate markets. For example, using a non-random sample of opposite-sex daters on Yahoo personals, Feliciano, Robnett, and Komaie (2009) found that Asian American men were systematically excluded from by women from all racial and ethnic groups (including Asian American women). The focus on co-residential unions not only neglects those in romantic and sexual relationships, but also those who are excluded from romantic involvement.

Bruh just stop

We could also try changing the way we think. People love to try to change society, but they don't realize that we are the ones that made society. As long as all you do is deconstruct society into power struggles you're never really going to change anything. If you change the way people think on the other hand you will inevitably change society. It's just that that's a lot harder to do, or even conceive, and people are lazy. Or worse.

It happens A LOT. Especially in sports. Think about how desperate the NBA and it's media coverage gets whenever a white player is slightly better than average. Sports NEED diverse rosters because people are tribal by nature and identify closer with people that look and act like them.

You may not, but (for lack of a better term) are the minority. Think back to how many Latinos were pulling for Sammy Sosa over Mark McGwire during the HR race of 1998.

You are aware that representation in media is one of the most effective ways to change how people think/perceive things, right?

Lmfao can't tell if this post is satire or not.

You keep making this about Ariel. We're past that.

The effectiveness of representation is not in question. The message it tries to send is not in question. What people get out of it is the issue.

You keep making this about Ariel. We're past that.

The effectiveness of representation is not in question. The message it tries to send is not in question. What people get out of it is the issue.

I dont think anyone here has read the HCA original story

people are tribal by nature and identify closer with people that look and act like them.

The one where the little mermaid dissolves into a puddle of sea foam?

I believe it is very effective. We are using Ariel as it is an anchor to the bigger question of how effective it is. The Disney princess are a symbol of beauty for younger kids. You have this doll and you see it as something as hero and beauty and it sells billions. Why not have a black princess ( of course there is one now, but this was a major problem when most of us were kids, but since we are not black women we didn't understood why).

This little, seemingly innocuous phrase, which contains a lot of truth, but can also be misconstrued very, very badly.

That's all the same thing. And Ariel isn't the only example of representation.

When taken by itself and then spun to fit a narrative, yes.

But it wasn't posted by itself.

Why do you reply to me? Also I want more.

does that mean you read it? No, probably just googled it

Yes, but you and I are not the only ones that get to hear it, or say it.

Do you have some overall point you were trying to make, or are you us trying to be some sort of fairy tale hipster? If you do have a point can you just state it without first requiring dozens of annoying back and forth posts?

But there's a significant portion of the population where it has almost the opposite effect as presumably intended.

yeah, Im just a fairy tail hipster thats my point

No, it's not quite the same thing. For a certain portion of the population it's very effective. But there's a significant portion of the population where it has almost the opposite effect as presumably intended. And then there's another portion of the population for whom it's only partially effective. But you count it as fully effective. So you think overall it was very effective. When in reality it was actually not very effective at all.

race and ethnicity are socially constructed, but that doesn't mean they don't exist

So uhhh.. you gonna show us your degree? Or some data or studies?

Because your saying all of this with a lot of confidence.

Well, I can only control the narrative when I say it.

Source?

So uhhh.. you gonna show us your degree? Or some data or studies?

Because your saying all of this with a lot of confidence.

No, because I'm challenging an established point. A challenge to which you apparently have no response.

Huh?

Challenging an established point doesn't mean you get a free pass to not have to back up your claims with data and research.