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AloneIBreak 09/25/22 9:56:03 AM #52: |
I wouldnt mind getting into PC gaming but I dont know how to build a computer nor do I have the knowledge to know what parts are good on a budget. Consoles take the thinking out of it for people like me. I could learn I guess, but Im lazy. Can you set them up so you can play games on TV but do normal stuff at your desk without having to carry your tower around? --- As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance. Libertarian socialist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/25/22 10:01:43 AM #53: |
Alucard188 posted... 4K gaming is a meme at this point. There's no hardware that can adequately perform like people expect it to. 4K 60hz is the best one can expect at this point, and that's with some of the best hardware and DLSS/FSR/XESS enabled. I have a Ryzen 5800x and a 3070 Ti, and I game at 1440p because that's where the sweet spot is for price to performance. This is Cyberpunk 2077 with FSR enabled to max quality. I usually play on balanced. I get pretty much the same benchmarks since I have a 165 W 3080 variant, but there certainly are games I can play at 4K without any difficulty. The desktop 3080 and 3090 can play pretty much everything at 4k, though. --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/25/22 10:10:21 AM #54: |
DarkRoast posted... I get pretty much the same benchmarks since I have a 165 W 3080 variant, but they're certainly are games I can play at 4K without any difficulty. The desktop 3080 and 3090 can play pretty much everything at 4k, though. Oh. I had ray tracing enabled as well, which I almost always leave turned off because of the performance hit. I turned that off and saw a 24% improvement in FPS. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 09/25/22 10:15:56 AM #55: |
rexcrk posted... Not everyone has their computer near their TV.But that's your own personal problem. That isn't a problem with PC gaming. --- #EatTheRich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/25/22 10:18:40 AM #56: |
Alucard188 posted... Oh. I had ray tracing enabled as well, which I almost always leave turned off because of the performance hit. I turned that off and saw a 24% improvement in FPS. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/0/AAeEwGAADtjS.jpg This is the only benchmark I have saved on my computer, with RT off. Although knocking down DLSS a tier will allow RT at 60fps so not bad for a laptop. --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 09/25/22 10:22:39 AM #58: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] the one we live in now --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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project_night 09/25/22 10:23:42 AM #59: |
Why compare the cost of just 2 PC parts to a complete system/console? For me, I would choose a $500 console over a cheap budget PC. If you have the money to build a mid to high-end PC, that would be preferable though. . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flockaveli 09/25/22 10:24:15 AM #60: |
How often do games see a physical release on PC. Surely less than console right? Since everyone only talks about Steam and GOG. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thx1138 09/25/22 10:25:58 AM #61: |
Plug andvplois why i still usexa console, i dont need to worry if i have enough ram or the latest version of direct x my console always has what it needs to play games made for it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 09/25/22 10:40:19 AM #62: |
Plug Andvplois sounds like an NPC name. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 10:40:28 AM #63: |
silverpine posted... the main difference btween pc and console gaming is desk vs couchUh, this is not true in the least --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nunyobidness 09/25/22 10:47:48 AM #64: |
I would like a gaming pc, but the reality is that I really only want it so I can play games with mods(single player). I also don't play a ton of games either, so I can't justify paying for one just so I can play Red Dead 2 with mods. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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noisetank 09/25/22 11:24:19 AM #65: |
Irony posted... Because PC gaming is dumb --- Grim Reaper: "Your time has come" Xsquader: "sir whats your badge number?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hoodroar 09/25/22 11:47:05 AM #67: |
MarthGoomba posted... A build with a 12400+6650xt is only $750 That is too expensive an entry price. If consoles could charge a $750 gate they would. They can't. People won't pay that. MarthGoomba posted... Consoles still have to worry about hardware failure My PC failure rate is 100% while my console failure rate is 0% (at worst, a proprietary peripheral failed and I never bothered to replace it). Console failure is mainly a thing for early adopters, while PC failure is simply a matter of time unless you bought some really premium shit. --- sigless user logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nightmare_Luna 09/25/22 11:50:20 AM #68: |
let me know when consoles start running games above 30 fps --- How to play Monster Hunter Step 1: Hit the monster. Step 2: Don't get hit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yemmy 09/25/22 11:54:58 AM #69: |
silverpine posted... the main difference btween pc and console gaming is desk vs couch Ive had my PC sitting in front of my TV for like 4 years. 99% of games are compatible with a controller now. I get that most people are too stupid/lazy/poor to put together a reliable PC and spend 5 minutes fucking with graphics settings but to call people dumb because they enjoy it is very telling. However with retro arch being available on Xbox and Nvidias prices being ridiculous on the 4000 series I just might stick to consoles this gen --- p226 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 11:59:55 AM #70: |
Yeah I've had a "console" experience with PC gaming for well over a decade now. It's just in my entertainment center with the consoles --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 09/25/22 11:59:57 AM #71: |
AloneIBreak posted... I wouldnt mind getting into PC gaming but I dont know how to build a computer nor do I have the knowledge to know what parts are good on a budget. Consoles take the thinking out of it for people like me. I could learn I guess, but Im lazy. Curious about this too --- Fifty years from now when you're looking back on your life, don't you want to say you had the guts to get in the car? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kloe_Rinz 09/25/22 12:02:11 PM #72: |
nobody buys consoles because they want to save money. everyone knows PC is cheaper due to steam sales and no online fees etc. people only buy consoles for exclusives or because they are tech illiterates and they paid someone to hook their ps5 up to their tv for them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 12:04:54 PM #73: |
rexcrk posted... Curious about this too Easy mode? Look for a refurbished Dell optiplex. Ideally an i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads. Upgrade to 16 GB of ram, install a SATA SSD, and a low profile 4 GB card. A SFF optiplex would fit into most entertainment centers and this was something I used for a few years in my living room. You'd be looking at around $400 or so total, maybe less with deal hunting and its a lot easier than building a PC from scratch or getting an over priced prebuild. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 09/25/22 12:08:46 PM #74: |
Nightmare_Luna posted... let me know when consoles start running games above 30 fpsNes - Super Mario Bros: 60.09 fps. PC - Doom : 35 fps. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ToPoPO 09/25/22 12:10:08 PM #75: |
Don't/didn't console MMOs force you to pay a sub fee and a monthly fee to even use the internet/play online? LMAO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 09/25/22 12:10:57 PM #76: |
I couldn't care less about what anybody who isn't me or a friend of mine games on, but half of the arguments against PC sound like copypasta from 2008 Get with the times grandpa --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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project_night 09/25/22 12:17:47 PM #77: |
rexcrk posted... Curious about this too It depends on how far the desk is. In my gameroom, I have my desktop PC connected to 3 monitors plus a very long HDMI cable running to my Samsung TV. You could also stream to the TV wirelessly, but then you introduce some latency. Kloe_Rinz posted... nobody buys consoles because they want to save money. everyone knows PC is cheaper due to steam sales and no online fees etc. people only buy consoles for exclusives or because they are tech illiterates and they paid someone to hook their ps5 up to their tv for them I find that unless the game has been out for a long time, I can actually find console games cheaper (during sales) than PC nowadays. Steam sales are not as good as they used to be. I usually use slickdeals, cheapassgamer, and gg.deals to find the best prices. . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 09/25/22 12:35:56 PM #78: |
AloneIBreak posted... I wouldnt mind getting into PC gaming but I dont know how to build a computer nor do I have the knowledge to know what parts are good on a budget. Consoles take the thinking out of it for people like me. I could learn I guess, but Im lazy.Yes, if your desk and TV are in the same room, you absolutely can set it up that way. If you have both the monitor and TV turned on, the PC will use both screens at the same time. But you can just turn off the screen you don't want to use at that moment (or change the display settings). Then switch accordingly. No need to move the tower around. I have my desk in the corner with a 27 inch monitor. But I mainly use my 55 inch TV for everything, since it can do 4k/120 fps. Wireless keyboard and mouse and an Xbox One Controller make it easy to game, or work, off of the TV. ToPoPO posted... Don't/didn't console MMOs force you to pay a sub fee and a monthly fee to even use the internet/play online?They used to. I remember having to pay for Xbox Live to play FFXI, which required it's own subscription. That hasn't been a thing since the PS4/Xbox One console generation though. I know for sure that you could play both free to play and subscription based MMO's on PS4 without needing PS Plus. Although some people still thought that it was required. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 09/25/22 12:52:27 PM #79: |
I remember how PC gamers used to pay a monthly fee to TEN to be able to play against more than one person online, now they all act like it never happened. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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littlebro07 09/25/22 12:59:29 PM #80: |
Ratchetrockon posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/1/AAZsuhAADtfZ.jpg What about the RAM, motherboard, power supply, case, fans, OS, network card, etc? --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 09/25/22 1:51:31 PM #81: |
littlebro07 posted... What about the RAM, motherboard, power supply, case, fans, OS, network card, etc?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yQVmW4 $750, not much more expensive than the base price of a console, and from then on every cent saved by not paying ridiculous subscription fees for BASIC FEATURES goes towards very cheap upgrades when needed 5+ years later --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 2:02:35 PM #82: |
Something like this would more or less get you Series S performance: https://www.ebay.com/itm/234476126427 - $180 Shipped GPU: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Radeon-Profile-Graphics-GV-R64D6-4GL/dp/B09YVPZ3RY - $150 Optional 1 TB SSD: https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-AX2-Internal-Compatible-T253A3001T0C101 - $62 $330 - $392 for a capable gaming PC that will fit in most entertainment centers --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flockaveli 09/25/22 2:04:14 PM #83: |
Will_VIIII posted... Something like this would more or less get you Series S performance:Or you can just buy a Series S for less. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/25/22 2:04:37 PM #84: |
Will_VIIII posted... Something like this would more or less get you Series S performance: "More or less Series S performance" https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/6/AAeEwGAADtlk.jpg Reminder that Series S gets 60fps at 1080p and 120fps at 720p --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 2:07:30 PM #85: |
That can't be right. No way a 4 GB GPU is getting only 10 FPS for Halo Infinite. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 2:07:56 PM #86: |
Flockaveli posted... Or you can just buy a Series S for less. Yeah and reduce your library picks down to a fraction of what you can get on Steam --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/25/22 2:10:46 PM #87: |
Will_VIIII posted... That can't be right. No way a 4 GB GPU is getting only 10 FPS for Halo Infinite. The amount of RAM and GPU has doesn't impact its actual game performance unless it's the limiting factor https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6400-aero-itx/22.html --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/25/22 2:11:12 PM #88: |
Will_VIIII posted... Yeah and reduce your library picks down to a fraction of what you can get on Steam And with that rx6400, you only have access to a fraction of steam anyway --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 2:12:44 PM #89: |
I have a slightly weaker optiplex build which can play RDR 2 at 1080p 60 fps, just saying. I know RDR 2 is a little older now but it's still known for being one of the more demanding games --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 09/25/22 2:13:25 PM #91: |
DarkRoast posted... "More or less Series S performance"Wtf why is halo infinite so demanding on pc. --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 09/25/22 2:16:55 PM #93: |
I'm very confused by their results given something like this which is similar enough in specs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vovWt-Op1jQ --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 09/25/22 2:18:16 PM #94: |
Ratchetrockon posted... Wtf why is halo infinite so demanding on pc.PC is generally benchmarked at max settings, while console only offers low/medium settings --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 09/25/22 2:42:53 PM #95: |
Will_VIIII posted... I have a slightly weaker optiplex build which can play RDR 2 at 1080p 60 fps, just saying.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/2/AAeEwGAADtmI.jpg And the irony here is that RDR2 heavily favors AMD GPUs lol --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bnui_ransder 09/25/22 2:46:25 PM #96: |
For everyone citing prices prices prices prices Case PSU GPU CPU Motherboard RAM HDD Multiple case fans Cables ????????? When you buy a CPU/GPU/HDD everything else just appears --- http://bnuiransder.tumblr.com/ So much A R T ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 09/25/22 2:49:38 PM #97: |
bnui_ransder posted... For everyone citing prices prices prices prices you're right altho regarding cables and some other misc stuff: PSU comes with most of the necessary cables (like 99% of what you need really idr the 1% tho) some cpus come with the cpu fan (usually the lower-end cpus iirc). still wise to get a separate cpu fan. idr if my cpu came with its own fan. motherboards come with the sata cables for ssd/hdd and prob something else idr too well cases come with their own fans like 2 or 3 but i guess it wise to buy more case fans --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 09/25/22 2:58:25 PM #98: |
the cpu cooler come with toothepaste and some screw driver that is L shaped (not allen wrench). or at least that what comes with noctua cpu cooler --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bnui_ransder 09/25/22 3:02:13 PM #99: |
Ratchetrockon posted... the cpu cooler come with toothepaste and some screw driver that is L shaped (not allen wrench). or at least that what comes with noctua cpu coolerAnd from what I remember it's basic-ass thermal paste and you want something better --- http://bnuiransder.tumblr.com/ So much A R T ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 09/25/22 3:03:55 PM #100: |
bnui_ransder posted... And from what I remember it's basic-ass thermal paste and you want something better what wrong with i havent changed mine in 4 years iirc differences are measurable but doesn't seem to really affect the user experience so much --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 09/25/22 3:04:24 PM #101: |
Imagine buying new CPU/GPU and not caring about cooling them down. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 09/25/22 3:05:43 PM #102: |
Imagine being a PC gamer. Imagine computing everything personally instead of being consoled about the fact that this does not compute. --- Please join the 100 Presidents community board and contribute to the project! Check back for updates! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents ... Copied to Clipboard!
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