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Vegy
09/29/22 6:20:40 AM
#51:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...


So the 5 Admirals, plus all the ships powers are insignificant compared to any of the Yonko?

Wasn't Garp the equal to Gold? Are the marines so inept none of them are anywhere close to an equal to the current Yonko?

I did watch Marineford so I do recall isn't the head admiral (the one who goes Buddha?) a current match for Whitebeard?

Dey aren't 5 admirals, dey are 5 vice admirals, who are all p much lame except garp who chooses not to ever be an admiral because he doesn't want to follow da celestial dragons rules all da time

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GreenMario
09/29/22 6:20:50 AM
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Usopp is weak. Emotionally and physically. But seeing a weak man be strong is more moving than seeing a strong man do it; because it's easy for the atorng man yet a challenge for the weak one.

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Crazyman93
09/29/22 6:43:30 AM
#53:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
So the 5 Admirals, plus all the ships powers are insignificant compared to any of the Yonko?

Wasn't Garp the equal to Gold? Are the marines so inept none of them are anywhere close to an equal to the current Yonko?

I did watch Marineford so I do recall isn't the head admiral (the one who goes Buddha?) a current match for Whitebeard?
There are only three Admirals, a Buster Call does require Vice Admirals, which seem to be in abundance.

Garp was a match for Roger in his prime, but despite what the Marines say, Garp didn't actually beat Roger, which if you've seen Marineford I'm fairly sure that was covered.

Sengoku might be able to match Whitebeard blow for blow, but he's also only one man. Besides, despite the Marines granting Authority based on who is a bigger ass kicker (note that there's an entire island Akinu and Akoji ruined dueling over replacing Sengoku), they also conserve resources, which is to say they only apply enough badassery to slightly exceed the threat. Marineford was just the point where they had to apply basically everything they had. And it still almost wasn't enough.

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averagejoel
09/29/22 6:51:45 AM
#54:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
So the 5 Admirals, plus all the ships powers are insignificant compared to any of the Yonko?
there are only 3 admirals, and they do not get called for a Buster Call. Ohara was an island of scholars and intellectuals. they were defenseless against a Buster Call

Wasn't Garp the equal to Gold? Are the marines so inept none of them are anywhere close to an equal to the current Yonko?
it's certainly clear at this point that the admirals are stronger than yonko commanders. not super clear how they would fare against a yonko though

I did watch Marineford so I do recall isn't the head admiral (the one who goes Buddha?) a current match for Whitebeard?
whitebeard was old and in bad health at that point. he was literally on life support. but even then... probably not

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Akagami_Shanks
09/29/22 7:21:28 AM
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ellis123 posted...
It is to show that he has grown as a character. It's exactly in line with his characterization, just that it requires that the characters not be gimmick/one-note characters and thus able to grow over the course of the story. Water 7 is Usopp's character arc and is where he finally comes to terms with himself.

It's even more extreme if you buy in the interview where Oda implied/indirectly stated that the only reason that Usopp wasn't just flat out killed in that scene was because of the editor.
where was this interview?

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creativerealms
09/29/22 7:31:36 AM
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I am at that part of the story right now too and I don't agree. I think Usopp's anger and why he left makes sense. He is far more connected to the Going Merry then the rest of the crew. It is a reminder of his home, and what he left. Even though he knows the Merry is at her end he doesn't want to let go. He is in denial at that point and is being controlled by his anger.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/29/22 2:49:23 PM
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I do love how Chopper is so full of childhood wonderment about Sniper King. ^_^

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ellis123
09/29/22 2:53:16 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
where was this interview?
Apologies, but it happened a looong time ago and I have since lost any links in that respect. It was just a one-off comment, IIRC, that was only an implication about the event in a much larger interview.

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TerraSeeker
09/29/22 2:57:17 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I love Usopp because he represents the every man who doesnt have any outrageous haki or devil fruit powers. He has to fight all these crazy powerful people with just his mind, good aim, and a sling shot
Whoa. Not every man has good aim.

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Seaman_Prime
09/29/22 3:38:27 PM
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Usopp fights are the best tho
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yusiko
09/29/22 4:05:13 PM
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the only fight of ussops i liked was ussop and chopper vs miss merry christmas and mr 4

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averagejoel
09/29/22 5:18:58 PM
#62:


yusiko posted...
the only fight of ussops i liked was ussop and chopper vs miss merry christmas and mr 4
Thriller Bark and Dressrosa imo have the best Usopp arcs and fights

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Akagami_Shanks
09/29/22 5:26:11 PM
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you can't fault Usopp
the ship was a gift from a girl he loved, and the only thing remaining of his hometown since his mom died, and a memory of her, he also did all the repairs on the ship. You can't fault him for being the closest to it. He was also feeling inadequate since he was nigh useless against Aokiji, got beaten up by the Franky family twice, and all the money stolen from him that they were gonna use to repair the ship. So he perceived Luffy saying they'll move on as a slight against him as well for discarding stuff no longer of use to him. That culminated in Usopp arguing with Luffy, and being told to leave the crew finally shattered him

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/29/22 10:04:29 PM
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Man, what is going on to Sodom and Gomorrah... T_T

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Mistere_Man
09/29/22 10:09:34 PM
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I dont care what anyone says I like both Usopp and Sniper King they are both awesome and I would love to hang out with them, but they never seem to be around at the same time.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/29/22 10:24:11 PM
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"I'll mix some medicine for you later... for your brain!" - Chopper in regards to Zoro's bad sense of direction.

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Mistere_Man
09/29/22 10:25:27 PM
#67:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
"I'll mix some medicine for you later... for your brain!" - Chopper in regards to Zoro's bad sense of direction.
Lol! One piece is so great at times.

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dameon_reaper
09/29/22 10:32:13 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Was not fond of that event, but I love Usopp. Not for his skillset or what he represents either. Usopp, Mr Satan, and Rango are kowardly liars that hide behind outlandish klaims, but through dumb luck, things work out anyway. That shit never ceases to amuse me. This guy's been bluffing from day 1 that he's some great pirate leader revered by a thousand subordinates or whatever, so I nearly died when Dressrosa happened and through dumb luck, he saves all those pirate slaves, resulting in his busted barely koncious body being elevated by a giant proclaiming "This is our god".

There's a funny little idea that every lie Usopp tells will somehow come to be. Like the giant goldfish lie he told back home and then later they actually see one on Little Garden.

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dameon_reaper
09/29/22 10:37:05 PM
#69:


Seaman_Prime posted...
Usopp fights are the best tho

Theyr'e usually my favorite which is sad that there aren't that many...especially later /=
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Blue_Dream87
09/29/22 10:38:48 PM
#70:


TC you ever finish adventure time?

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/29/22 11:10:20 PM
#71:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
TC you ever finish adventure time?

Nah. I ended up watching a video about how it ended. There was just so many garbage episodes. Finished up the Marceline killing other vampires arc.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/29/22 11:35:20 PM
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Vice Admiral Saul. T_T

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/29/22 11:52:59 PM
#73:


I want to live. I want to go with you. Take me away from here.

T_T

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ssj3vegeta
09/29/22 11:57:13 PM
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We all cried as well

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dameon_reaper
09/29/22 11:59:36 PM
#75:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I want to live. I want to go with you. Take me away from here.

T_T

I was waiting for you to get to that point after seeing you complain about Robin.

I remember watching the anime and at that point and I'm like sobbing "She finally said it!"

Robin's like my third favorite character in the crew.

Its Zoro > Brook > Robin > Jinbe > Franky > Luffy> Chopper > Usopp > Sanji > Nami
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Mistere_Man
09/30/22 12:00:39 AM
#76:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I want to live. I want to go with you. Take me away from here.

T_T
Dang onion ninjas must be in my house again.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/30/22 12:02:51 AM
#77:


Robin is an excellent character but even smart people make dumb decisions at times. Lol

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yusiko
09/30/22 12:16:04 AM
#78:


yes the i want to live scene is my favorite moment from the story arc
was looking forward to see you get to it
for the first time robin has found a group that will defend her no matter what

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/30/22 1:03:49 AM
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I do really wish Sanji didn't become a useless piece of shit against women. =/

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yusiko
09/30/22 2:04:11 AM
#80:


yeah this is the arc that made me really dislike sanji
he is my least favorite strawhat

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/30/22 2:16:57 AM
#81:


Holy shit, Chopper when he is in Monster form is fucking terrifying.

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yusiko
09/30/22 2:22:26 AM
#82:


yep he is
he is the strongest member of the weak trio

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Zergrush80
09/30/22 3:21:05 AM
#83:


Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
Holy shit, Chopper when he is in Monster form is fucking terrifying.
Thats wat I love, Chopper and Nami are both fighting CP9 agents while Usopp is......being a sword handle.......

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yusiko
09/30/22 3:24:54 AM
#84:


well chopper has his monster form
nami is a glass cannon, able to dish out tons of damage but cant take a hit very well
and ussop just doesnt have the same raw offense the two of them have
he can take a beating better than either of them can but he doesnt have a way to get through the CP9s defenses


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creativerealms
09/30/22 3:29:36 AM
#85:


Sanji is almost two different characters. When he is not around attractive women he is a total badass, but when ever an attractive woman even talks to him, he falls apart.

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creativerealms
09/30/22 3:32:40 AM
#86:


yusiko posted...
yeah this is the arc that made me really dislike sanji
he is my least favorite strawhat
Oh man. I am at the Sea train part and I am loving Sanji more then ever. I am worried.

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Zergrush80
09/30/22 3:34:47 AM
#87:


creativerealms posted...
Sanji is almost two different characters. When he is not around attractive women he is a total badass, but when ever an attractive woman even talks to him, he falls apart.
Thats one reason I dislike him so much especially during the fishman island arc....

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Akagami_Shanks
09/30/22 5:04:29 AM
#88:


yeah Sanji gets flanderized too much and I guess the people of Japan find it hilarious because otherwise the gag would have ended already. His women shtick stopped being funny a looooong time ago

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Crazyman93
09/30/22 6:05:51 AM
#89:


Seaman_Prime posted...
Usopp fights are the best tho
Honestly, his fight with Perona is one of my favorites just because of how absurd it is.

Akagami_Shanks posted...
yeah Sanji gets flanderized too much and I guess the people of Japan find it hilarious because otherwise the gag would have ended already. His women shtick stopped being funny a looooong time ago
Yeah, it stops being funny after the crew gets yeeted across the planet and he ends up in the one place he'd be totally miserable. And apparently learns nothing.

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tremain07
09/30/22 6:20:15 AM
#90:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
yeah Sanji gets flanderized too much and I guess the people of Japan find it hilarious because otherwise the gag would have ended already. His women shtick stopped being funny a looooong time ago
Actually the fanbase in japan hate when sanji gets like that when something serious is happening but Oda doesn't give a fuck he will always do it, the same reason why Vegeta will never ever win a major fight, Toriyama loathes Vegeta and always bullies him , he doesn't even do much writing for Super but he has a lot of influence and uses that influence especially to shit on Vegeta, think about it, Throughout all of Super's run Vegeta has defeated exactly 1 opponent of merit Toppo

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ssj3vegeta
09/30/22 7:14:29 AM
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Yea, Oda hates Sanji for some reason. Which sucks because he's one of da coolest characters ever if you take away his sexism

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
09/30/22 1:33:03 PM
#92:


"What a bitch" - Nami

Haha, fun.

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creativerealms
09/30/22 1:53:27 PM
#93:


Knowing the time skip makes Sanji even worse then he is now really shows the creator hates him.

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dameon_reaper
10/01/22 8:49:50 AM
#94:


People question why I like most of the crew more than Sanji and its usually how useless he becomes around women. Its just not funny and if Oda hated Sanji, why make him? >_< It feels so crazy.

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myzz7
10/01/22 9:41:24 AM
#95:


tc u get to franky yet? i really liked him by the end of ennies lobbie arc

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Null_Gain
10/01/22 3:16:39 PM
#96:


dameon_reaper posted...
People question why I like most of the crew more than Sanji and its usually how useless he becomes around women. Its just not funny and if Oda hated Sanji, why make him? >_< It feels so crazy.

There are unsubstantiated rumors that Sanji's VA fooled around with Oda's (the author) wife. Making Sanji a constant buffoon has been Oda's way of payback, according to the rumors.

I hope it's not true fwiw

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Gobstoppers12
10/01/22 3:20:11 PM
#97:


Null_Gain posted...
There are unsubstantiated rumors that Sanji's VA fooled around with Oda's (the author) wife. Making Sanji a constant buffoon has been Oda's way of payback, according to the rumors.
That's almost certainly not true.

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dameon_reaper
10/01/22 7:05:34 PM
#98:


Null_Gain posted...
There are unsubstantiated rumors that Sanji's VA fooled around with Oda's (the author) wife. Making Sanji a constant buffoon has been Oda's way of payback, according to the rumors.

I hope it's not true fwiw

That would be some fucked up shit....
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yusiko
10/01/22 7:21:53 PM
#99:


i doubt sanji's VA sleeping with his wife but he does let his real life leak into the script in interesting ways

like he married a nami cosplayer and suddenly nami became way more sexualized than she had been before. then this happened with every women.

more heroic LGBT characters started to show up because oda made a gay friend and even wanted him to voice ivankov but that didnt happen

the kaido arc had more female fighters than any other major story arc and gave nami and robin major fights against the most serious opponents they had ever gone up againt all because oda's daughter was old enough to read one piece now and didnt like it so he wanted her to enjoy his work.


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Zergrush80
10/02/22 1:22:35 AM
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The way Sanji acts, id highly doubt hes ever gotten laid let alone touched a woman before.....

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