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Isn't it still disadvantageous to have more than 7 songs, assuming you can objectively rank them? If you "use up" all 7 songs, you can potentially loop back to your best immediately, whereas if you include an 8th, that's guaranteed to go first.

(Although if you're limiting loser's brackets to ONLY the top 3 songs, which was a line in post 43 that I've mostly ignored here, I'm curious how that works.)

you'll only be able to support one set from the same game though, so you might get out-competed.

oh yeah i'm wondering is nomination period just going to work the same as last time with 1 set per day no cap on supports, not sure if this was specified

1. Nominations will begin at 8:00PM EDT/0000 UTC on November 1, and will last seven days until November 7. Each day of nominations is 24 hours. You will be able to nominate one new game a day, up to a total of five*, with the option of nominating an extra game if you missed nominations the day before.
2. The support period will end on November 9 at 7:00PM EST/0000 UTC. Until this time, you will be free to support any number of games you like that have already been nominated. The extra two days will not permit any new nominations, so you are free to listen to the already submitted games without extra pressure. If you wish to support a song, please clearly state that your vote is a support. You will not be able to retract supports barring extraordinary circumstances.
3. A game's nominator is the captain. However, its supporters are its navigators. The nominator has the final say for a game's setlist, but please listen to your supporters' thoughts and opinions, and earnestly work to find some kind of consensus. You can edit your list until the end of the support period. Before you do, ask your supporters if they're ok with the changes, hopefully at least a day in advance.

1. Songs nominated must either be from your game, or if they're licensed, strongly associated with and popularized by the game. Remixes of ineligible songs that were made for the game are cool.
2. Songs from official remix albums, soundtrack-only songs & arrangements, trailers, etc, are fine. I only ask that the majority of tracks in the main setlist be VGMC eligible (ie, play in-game or are soundtrack-only but not remixes).
3. Royalty-free music can be nominated for any game it appears in.
4. Games that have won previous BOST contests are ineligible. These are: Ar tonelico II, Shatter, Atelier Ayesha, Bravely Default, and Umineko ~ Question Arcs.
5. Games that appeared in BOST 5 are eligible, however, I ask that you refrain from reusing tracks from them that appeared in last year's main bracket if possible.
6. If a game can be broken into segments, the rule of thumb for whether you can use songs from any part or if you have to choose one is that if a part of the game can be played standalone, it cannot be put into a main setlist. For example, songs from World of Warcraft expansions can be put into a "World of Warcraft" set, while songs from Shovel Knight campaigns can only be put into sets specific to that campaign.
7. If you have to ask... just ask lol

1. After the support period ends, the 64 games with the most supports will be used in the contest. This will be determined first by number of support votes, followed by the time nominated with earliest nominations taking priority.
2. The tournament itself will be a standard double-elimination bracket of 64, consisting of a Winner's Bracket and a Loser's Bracket. Thus, each game needs to be defeated twice to be eliminated from the contest.
3. There will also be a snubs' bracket. It will also be 64 songs, single-elimination, and it will take games on an auto-include basis, with the number of games a nominator gets to include being correlated with how many of their nominations got into the main bracket.
4. For the main bracket, songs will be chosen completely randomly from your main set. In the snubs' bracket, songs will be chosen according to the placing in your nominations. The first three songs will be chosen without replacement from the songs in the 4/5/6 slot, and the next two songs from the 2/3 slot. The finals will use the 1 song.
5. In the main bracket, after round 6 until the finals, games will use their "alternate" songs. The finals will feature three random songs from the main set, and if a rematch is needed due to the losers' bracket champion earning a bracket reset, the other three songs will be used.

4. For the main bracket, songs will be chosen completely randomly from your main set. In the snubs' bracket, songs will be chosen according to the placing in your nominations. The first three songs will be chosen without replacement from the songs in the 4/5/6 slot, and the next two songs from the 2/3 slot. The finals will use the 1 song.
5. In the main bracket, after round 6 until the finals, games will use their "alternate" songs. The finals will feature three random songs from the main set, and if a rematch is needed due to the losers' bracket champion earning a bracket reset, the other three songs will be used.

If I support and s then the song list gets changed to something I don't like, can I retract the support? In this particular case, say I'm in the minority opinion and other supports are happy with the nomination list.

For song cutoff, I would suggest going with random selection from the games nominated on the cutoff day. So if two games are tied and the were both nominated on Day 1 and there only 1 slot, the one of those two games are chosen at random. So nominating on an earlier day is an advantage but games nominated during the first minute of a particular day are considered equal to games nominated during the last minute of the same day.

How many songs are in a set list exactly?

If you wish to support a song

followed by the time nominated with earliest nominations taking priority.

There will also be a snubs' bracket. It will also be 64 songs, single-elimination, and it will take games on an auto-include basis, with the number of games a nominator gets to include being correlated with how many of their nominations got into the main bracket.

In the main bracket, after round 6 until the finals, games will use their "alternate" songs.

For song cutoff, I would suggest going with random selection from the games nominated on the cutoff day.

It's a risk to have just one alt that might get chosen over and over, running the risk of voters getting sick of it.

Games that appeared in BOST 5 are eligible, however, I ask that you refrain from reusing tracks from them that appeared in last year's main bracket if possible.

Songs from official remix albums, soundtrack-only songs & arrangements, trailers, etc, are fine. I only ask that the majority of tracks in the main setlist be VGMC eligible (ie, play in-game or are soundtrack-only but not remixes).

There will also be a snubs' bracket. It will also be 64 songs, single-elimination, and it will take games on an auto-include basis, with the number of games a nominator gets to include being correlated with how many of their nominations got into the main bracket.

Oh, so Final Fantasy Distant Worlds music is eligible? Or Final Fantasy Piano Opera? Some of those say they are published by Square Enix, so would that mean they're official? Not that I would try to include such music because I think those would go too much against the spirit of the contest, but I'm just wondering...

I'm not sure what "auto-include" means? Hopefully the nominators get to decide which of their games will fill their allotted spots in snubs?

If a game can be broken into segments, the rule of thumb for whether you can use songs from any part or if you have to choose one is that if a part of the game can be played standalone, it cannot be put into a main setlist. For example, songs from World of Warcraft expansions can be put into a "World of Warcraft" set, while songs from Shovel Knight campaigns can only be put into sets specific to that campaign.

Negatively correlated, I assume.

I see. But if a game had one really awesome song and thought it could survive until the later stages otherwise, it arguably might be strategic to make that song the alt. Which is counterintuitive, but this set-up kinda promotes that possibility.

I'm assuming you mean that we refrain from reusing tracks that were on BOST5's main bracket setlists? Erm, that is, I'm assuming you are talking about tracks that were in actual matches last contest that should be excluded? (as in, anything on a setlist that hasn't been in a BOST5 match is still fair game?)

Distant Worlds variations wouldn't be associated with a game, even if the original was from a game. NFUN is referring to tracks that appear on OST releases, but aren't in the actual game.

In the snubs' bracket, songs will be chosen according to the placing in your nominations. The first three songs will be chosen without replacement from the songs in the 4/5/6 slot, and the next two songs from the 2/3 slot. The finals will use the 1 song.

Nominations will begin at 8:00PM EDT/0000 UTC on November 1, and will last seven days until November 7. Each day of nominations is 24 hours. You will be able to nominate one new game a day, up to a total of five*, with the option of nominating an extra game if you missed nominations the day before.

I wonder which game is going to have the highest number of alt songs? Someone is going to try and be funny and submit like 50 alt songs, right?

NOMINATION RULES:
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The nomination format is:
<Game Name>
<Song One>
<Song B>
<Song Charlie>
<Song Delta>
<Song Jupiter>
<Song Carbon>
Alt. <Alt >
Alt. <any other alts you have>

You must include six main songs, and at least one alt song, with no cap. Depending on whether your game ends up in the losers' bracket or if it experiences many ties, alt songs may never get picked or they may be chosen often. It's up to you to decide how many alts to choose, balancing strength with fatigue. It's a risk to have just one alt that might get chosen over and over, running the risk of voters getting sick of it.