Current Events > Bill Maher: Consensual Sexual Relationships in Workplace Should Not be Banned

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O880LqI_jxs

I wonder which of his coworkers he wants to have sex with

Oh hey it's that bigot again

Who is saying they should be?

Bill "I want to exert my influence on the people at my workplace to gain sexual favors" Maher

"New Rule: Let me fuck my employees"

Of course, they should.
Romantic feelings within work time, lower productivity.

I'm not watching the video. Does he blame this "war" on "woke prudes" or something else stupid?

No one cares.

Companies only push these trainings to prevent UNWANTED advances. I've never heard of a workplace stepping in and stopping two willing people dating.

Eh, it's up to the job. Having to deal with the bullshit that comes from two people having broken up can be really annoying depending on how closely they work.

there is actually a series of gay porn videos that are a parody of the office with the confessional scenes and everything showing why this isnt a good idea

its "consensual" sex but the boss keeps making his male employees have sex with him right in the office while heavily implying that if they turn him down they will lose their job

more 9-5 places than not don't really give a shit about coworkers on the same level of the ladder getting together

Its when power dynamics come into play where it gets frowned upon..

This reads a lot like "Let bosses pressure women into sleeping with them".

Admittedly I haven't watched the video, but it's fucking Bill Maher.

Since when were they banned?

Almost every job I worked there was at least one couple fucking eachother off hours

In the military, if an E4 fucks another E4, it's fine.
But if an E5 fucks an E4, that E5 will be an E4 again within a week.

Who in his office does Bill Maher want to fuck

Sayoria posted...

I've never heard of a workplace stepping in and stopping two willing people dating.

That's apparently what happened with the Boston Celtics' coach-- he got suspended for a year in what has been reported as an 'inappropriate' relationship even though it was consensual.

Timmyjinkle posted...

Of course, they should.
Romantic feelings within work time, lower productivity.

i dont believe that

No One:

Bill Maher: STOP OPPRESSING ME I WANT TO FUCK MY WORKERS

Sayoria posted...

Companies only push these trainings to prevent UNWANTED advances.

What is a consistent way to know if you're going to get rejected beforehand?

Sad_Face posted...

What is a consistent way to know if you're going to get rejected beforehand?

Look in the mirror

Sayoria posted...

No one cares.

Companies only push these trainings to prevent UNWANTED advances. I've never heard of a workplace stepping in and stopping two willing people dating.

I've known of several occurrences of employees being relocated due to being in a relationship.

thx1138 posted...

i dont believe that

One in seven employees reportedly quit their jobs once an office romance sours, according to a separate study of 1,000 employees from Perkbox, which makes this a direct concern for talent retention. More men (20 per cent) than women (12 per cent) resigned because of this, while the vast majority of workers aged between 35 and 54 stuck it out at work, despite having to work with their old flames. The study revealed that only 17 per cent of workplace couplings have resulted in long-term relationships, marriages or civil partnerships. -- https://www.growthbusiness.co.uk/office-romance-productivity-killer-2549670/

Background_Guy posted...

Look in the mirror

LOL this is an acceptable answer but I'd like to hear Sayoria's answer though.

Been dating my manager for almost 2 years now even though we're technically not supposed to. Boss doesn't care since we're both good workers and just pretends to not know, lol.

Umbreon posted...

This reads a lot like "Let bosses pressure women into sleeping with them".

Not just women.

There have been cases of male and female employees in the west being sexually harassed/exploited by female supervisors too. I know, I've been harassed by supervisors and coworkers while working as a man in a medical field predominantly women. It's not far fetched to imply for a male employee stuck in that situation it can feel similar to a woman working on a 90's construction site with just as little support. And modern HR is certainly not as helpful to male employees due to bias, while most male victims have a first experience after being falsely accused by their harasser (which happened to me). I won my case, but the ridiculous steps I had to take just to convince an HR board to practice professional parity spotlighted the fact that men working in certain fields DON'T have it easier dealing with workplace harassment either.

My saving grace is experience has shown that most of my coworkers have not been malevolent like that and would prefer it not happen at the workplace at all. Some honest friends have been there to prevent my harassers from framing me as the aggressor. I'm grateful for people with integrity, both men and women.

As a married gay man I don't have as many "opportunities" to mix the workplace with dating. And as a rule of thumb I prefer not to. To me it's always been oil and water. Having a zero tolerance policy on it would not be a loss for me. Although I could see how it would be a noticeable dent in heterosexual socializing. A lot of popular white collar and blue collar TV series would look dramatically obsolete with that simple political change.

What is "good" for the business, outside of legal liability, is irrelevant to whether or not a relationship within a workplace is ethical or even "good". This may come as a surprise to some people, but there are things we as a society should value more than money, such as "love" and "romance" and "happiness"

ClockworkHare posted...

As a married gay man

Have you been hit on a lot by women? The stereotype is that women really like going after gay guys >_>

I've definitely dated coworkers without any issue. When you get a power dynamic in there is when it gets weird tho

Two coworkers that aren't in a position of power over one another shouldn't be a big deal. Even in that situation, things can muddy up the workplace if it goes south. Relationships between management and subordinates opens the door for favoritism and nepotism.

Some places don't even let family members supervise each other.

ugh now I remember why I'm not a democrat anymore from these comments

If my boss tried to tell me who I could and couldn't fuck I would walk out right then and there

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

Have you been hit on a lot by women? The stereotype is that women really like going after gay guys >_>

Over time I have been approached by several women voicing interest, this includes fellow staff in nursing facilities. Not so much after I declared my orientation.

However, some women came to their own presumptions or straight up accused me of only claiming to be gay to avoid dating them. One of the workplace harassment cases I had to deal with was 2 coworkers jumping to that conclusion and being spiteful enough to falsely accuse me of sexually harassing them hoping to get me fired. And the HR board (4 women) was initially on their side by default, showing clear bias. It was a long awkward drawn-out series of meetings, but I persevered and won. The HR coven was so hardnosed in arguing me as the aggressor by mere accusation, I literally had to get one of my gay fuck buddies at the time to recount our sexual activity over vid chat to prove I was in fact a gay man (which was apparently a HUGE violation of my employee rights). Imagine if I was gay, but still in the closet without anyone to vouch for me. That happens.

The two coworkers still threatened additional action to get me terminated and I countered by threatening the HR board themselves with legal action for discrimination (risky emotional move, but paid off). Enough of the other women working at the facility supported me in their statements instead of the liars. The administrator herself also backed me and apparently called a former chair of the board to tell the others they were in deep shit if I could prove anything, especially over that facetime call (which was recorded).

I've been told I seriously could have sued the shit out of these clowns, but I'm no legal guru. I was exhausted. I really wanted to get the fiasco over with and move on with my career without marks against me. The two beasts who harassed me did NOT get fired, but they were at least pressured to quit. The other women made this pair of lying bitches work life so awful they bounced. Their falsifying was noted all the way up to the administrator and they couldn't drag anyone else into HR. Far as my boss was concerned, I was more valuable.

Events like these are why I view the despicably sexist Duluth narrative of "men always default aggressors, women always victims " as political horseshit and grift. I don't live in a country where that narrative is sensible let alone civil. I'm male and have been sexually harassed at the workplace on multiple instances (I'm tall, fit, employed in a field packed with single women). You don't have to look like Chris Hemsworth to get groped by desperate or bored women. I've witnessed female coworkers also endure similar harassment by surprisingly by other women. One of my former supervisors got canned because she harassed and groped a young female nursing student who didn't even have her certification yet. The student quit over the harassment, but was brave enough to at least report why. Coworker accounts matched what she said. Point is the culprit was a woman.

Like sorry not sorry, some women do bad shit too. ESPECIALLY in countries with campaigns for gender equality, as ironic as that sounds. That can include women in charge. Bad people are prone to abuse power, gender has little to do with it. Sorry for the length, this is cathartic.

I used to work at a casino, and the shift I was in had a whole love triangle going on. But I didn't find out about it until after I had left that shift, so I never found out many details.

Restaurants are absolutely notorious for this. It should absolutely be banned, the amount of lovebirds shitting the bed on their jobs/obligations who work the same shifts together is absurd.

How long has Bill Maher been out of the closet as a bigot? I thought he was cool then I saw him talking about trans teens transitioning and well damn. Admittedly I'm not American so I don't really watch his stuff.

That really has nothing to do with his views on workplace stuff.

TotACon posted...

How long has Bill Maher been out of the closet as a bigot? I thought he was cool then I saw him talking about trans teens transitioning and well damn. Admittedly I'm not American so I don't really watch his stuff.

It's kinda his thing. He's the liberal who isn't afraid to say [insert minority group] are complaining too much these days.

C-zom posted...

Restaurants are absolutely notorious for this. It should absolutely be banned, the amount of lovebirds shitting the bed on their jobs/obligations who work the same shifts together is absurd.

when you start a business you can have this rule, but leave everyone else alone

Having made that mistake a couple of times I do not date people I work with.

But Bill makes a good point at the very end. Not condoning dating in the workplace is probably why we have so much incest porn nowadays.

Yeah, don't shit where you eat.

Honestly its probably different in Hollywood.