Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 395: North Korea Goes Ballistic

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https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1582152573326594049?s=46&t=PEJCnm8ssRMRSeC6pA1tyA

https://twitter.com/jakelahut/status/1582099474775560194?s=21

In comparing Biden to Hitler, Tulsi also for some reason suggests that Hitler had good intentions?

Tulsi, please just retire.

how did tulsi think that would sound good?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/18/biden-to-pledge-legalizing-abortion-on-roe-anniversary-if-dems-expand-majorities-00062268

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/4/AAGQPmAADyqE.jpg

A meaningless pledge because theres just about no way the Dems hold onto both. Shit, even holding the Senate is getting dicey.

On the other side, itll invigorate Rs to pass a full national abortion ban should they take both chambers.

Playing politics with womens health. Always a winning strategy

Seanchan posted...

On the other side, itll invigorate Rs to pass a full national abortion ban should they take both chambers.

They stated their intent for this like immediately after Roe was struck down! We're well past this point!

"It'll invigorate the Rs" is such a bullshit argument at this point. It comes up any time the Dems try to do anything. The Rs get invigorated by Tucker Carlson taking a dump on his desk, so who cares.

KamikazePotato posted...

"It'll invigorate the Rs" is such a bullshit argument at this point. It comes up any time the Dems try to do anything. The Rs get invigorated by Tucker Carlson taking a dump on his desk, so who cares.

Yeah, spoilers: Everyone invigorated by the R's were invigorated 6 years ago. They never stopped being invigorated. Biden Sneezing is invigorating

I am optimistic about the results.

I remained optimistic here when everyone was losing their mind Tuesday night 2020, and it worked out then.

I don't think we're looking at a week long slugfest again, but I predict things will look bad Tuesday night then will start looking better Wednesday afternoon. Even with a lot less mail in votes, never underestimate the slow counting speed of some of these polling places.

I hope you're right, because I am beginning to spiral back into doom and gloom since polling appears to be showing the usual snapback to the GOP despite everything and if overturning Roe can't even move the needle then what the fuck can.

It'd be nice to have a polling error in the Dems' favor after the last 10 years.

I still think there is a decent chance we get either

• a covid polling error where a bunch of republican support has died
• an enthusiasm polling error where republicans don't vote because trump isn't on the ballot
• a pollster overcorrection error where pollsters trying to be accurate after their 2020 predictions were wrong over correct

Like it's not a sure thing, but I am super skeptical that we should assume it's going to skew right again. Hell, if all 3 of those biases hit we might be looking at an easy 52 seats in the senate

https://twitter.com/sophiasgaler/status/1582405622602924034

Meanwhile, Parliament in the UK just voted to institute buffer zones around abortion clinics to stop anti-abortion campaigners harassing people. That is good. Unfortunately some very big government names in the No votes.

Also worth highlighting the followup tweets about US fundamentalist groups funding and campaigning on issues like this in the UK and other countries. Sadly the USs problems do have spillover.

Yeah, the anti-abortion groups (and anti-LGBTQ+, and... hell most conservative organizations come to think of it) in the US have done a ton of damage overseas for a long time now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/8/AAeolZAADysU.jpg

go to nevada too please

I think you're missing the key issue with that picture lol.

look i can't fault georgia for wanting to relocate further away from florida it's something we should all do if we can

Thorn posted...

Yeah, the anti-abortion groups (and anti-LGBTQ+, and... hell most conservative organizations come to think of it) in the US have done a ton of damage overseas for a long time now.

I remember the abortion referendum campaign in Ireland. Every No campaigner I met was American. There it didnt work but there are places where it has been more effective.

Regarding the UK I dont think theyll get anywhere on this topic as it has 90% or more support but other issues like transphobia they have unfortunately been more impactful. Just goes to show that its not just Russia doing that stuff.

Speaking of anti-LGBT+

https://twitter.com/erininthemorn/status/1582492801190674432?s=46&t=jC9qX6mjA47nIAl-0-Y3nw

This is whats at stake if they get both houses and the Presidency

Banning "any topic involving gender identity [or] sexual orientation" feels like a real opportunity for malicious compliance at least.

Jakyl25 posted...

Speaking of anti-LGBT+

https://twitter.com/erininthemorn/status/1582492801190674432?s=46&t=jC9qX6mjA47nIAl-0-Y3nw

This is whats at stake if they get both houses and the Presidency

I mean there are zero stakes right now. They can say they would pass it. Wouldn't be the first time that once the party was actually in power they hesitated or watered it down.

Forcing everyone to fire every trans person employed would probably be extreme enough I don't think think it happens, and does that mean everyone who ever interacts with someone under 10 now has a mandatory genital inspection?

I would totally make my employer inspect my genitals to ensure I wasn't trans. Malicious compliance

disney classics banned for promoting straightness to kids

It's always amazing how Democrats escalate on things where the escalation has a high probability of resulting in Republican escalation and victory but the Dems consistently back down on almost everything else.

And by always, I basically mean Harry Reid getting rid of the filibuster on judicial nominees in 2013.

No more history class because all the historical people had genders.

how dare you besmirch the founding fathers by saying they had genders

Oh, they didn't just have genders. They had pronouns, those perverts. Totally inappropriate to expose children to that filth.

As Senator Josh Hawley has said, there is only one gender!

"we the people" wow those lib**** cucks, it should be THE PEOPLE THE PEOPLE

Xeybozn posted...

Oh, they didn't just have genders. They had pronouns, those perverts. Totally inappropriate to expose children to that filth.

How dare you suggest that George Washington had pronouns. George Washington is to be referred to only as George Washington every time George Washington is mentioned!

Come now, we have a long history of using different pronouns for different people.

His Majesty
Her Majesty
His Royal Highness
Her Royal Highness
His Excellency

All pronouns that were in English at the time of the founding fathers.

Thorn posted...

They stated their intent for this like immediately after Roe was struck down! We're well past this point!

KamikazePotato posted...

"It'll invigorate the Rs" is such a bullshit argument at this point. It comes up any time the Dems try to do anything. The Rs get invigorated by Tucker Carlson taking a dump on his desk, so who cares.

I suppose my point was that they should have been trying to pass a protection law months ago, rather than using it as a campaign point.

Its possible there was some action in the House or Senate to do just that and Ive just forgotten. I know it would be a tough thing in the Senate at the moment but it will still be easier now than in January.

Seanchan posted...

Its possible there was some action in the House or Senate to do just that and Ive just forgotten.

Yeah. They tried. Multiple times even before and after Dobbs.

IIRC, House passed it, Senate - as always - the problem, because 60 votes, filibuster, etc.

Is there a reason Mike Lee is acting so terrified of losing to McMullin in UT? He seems pretty far ahead in the polls, even if McMullin is soaring up in the polls he's still pretty far behind.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Is there a reason Mike Lee is acting so terrified of losing to McMullin in UT? He seems pretty far ahead in the polls, even if McMullin is soaring up in the polls he's still pretty far behind.

Internal polling has him scared? idk.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Is there a reason Mike Lee is acting so terrified of losing to McMullin in UT? He seems pretty far ahead in the polls, even if McMullin is soaring up in the polls he's still pretty far behind.

Eh?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/utah/

Polling looks all over the place

So were less than a month out from midterms and Dems are losing ground on the gains theyve made.

Odds Biden actually deschedules marijuana to prevent further losses, or do we think Democrats are making the calculation that a GOP controlled Congress helps them in 2024?

A GOP Congress absolutely helps the Dems in 2024. They can blame everything on the GOP for the next 2 years.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

So were less than a month out from midterms and Dems are losing ground on the gains theyve made.

Odds Biden actually deschedules marijuana to prevent further losses, or do we think Democrats are making the calculation that a GOP controlled Congress helps them in 2024?

I think I disagree with almost every single point in this post amusingly

For instance if we look at polling, Yesterday Trafalger released a new poll that showed the Arizona Senate Race at D+1

Which seems to indicate the race is tightening, except their last poll a month ago was also D+1

Same with Penn, Fetterman +2 both last week and a month ago

I think there is perception that the race is tightening which is making forecasts more conservative, but polling hasn't changed much (In heavily polled states)

At this point I am fully behind divided government. If either the Democrats or the Republicans achieve full power, they promise to do horrible things to the country. The only way things don't go really badly is for there to be divided government (we effectively have divided government now because Manchin and Sinema are reasonable).

In fact, check out this recent Iowa senate poll

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/8/AANz_VAADy2A.jpg

Poll moved +5 towards the democrats since July after Roe V Wade was overturned.

I think everyone shouting that there has been systematic movement towards republicans are wrong. Is it possible that polls are underestimating Republicans? Yes. Do we see poll movement? No

red_sox_777 posted...

At this point I am fully behind divided government. If either the Democrats or the Republicans achieve full power, they promise to do horrible things to the country. The only way things don't go really badly is for there to be divided government (we effectively have divided government now because Manchin and Sinema are reasonable).

What horrible things do the Democrats promise to do to the country?

Tony gets his news from the trending tab only it seems.

I'm curious how 538 would look without Trafalgar in the equation. I feel like their bump from a C- to a A- pollster since the last election is having an odd effect (mainly holding to the theory that they fudge their polls but happened to fudge them 'correctly' in 2020). I guess we'll see after election day.

Inviso posted...

What horrible things do the Democrats promise to do to the country?

End the filibuster, end the Electoral College in favor of a national popular vote, spend $93 trillion on a Green New Deal, and most importantly, pack the Supreme Court with leftists who will rule based on pure politics.

red_sox_777 posted...

End the filibuster, end the Electoral College in favor of a national popular vote, spend $93 trillion on a Green New Deal, and most importantly, pack the Supreme Court with leftists who will rule based on pure politics.

Electoral College needs to be ended.
We need a Green New Deal
And we need leftists on the supreme court to combat the rightists on the supreme court.

red_sox_777 posted...

End the filibuster, end the Electoral College in favor of a national popular vote, spend $93 trillion on a Green New Deal, and most importantly, pack the Supreme Court with leftists who will rule based on pure politics.

Why are any of the first three things bad? I mean, I can understand thinking the last one is bad, since we've already seen the effects of having unelected ideologues deciding laws for the country based on politics in the rightward direction. But beyond your standard conservatrolling, why are any of those first three things bad?

Inviso posted...

Why are any of the first three things bad? I mean, I can understand thinking the last one is bad, since we've already seen the effects of having unelected ideologues deciding laws for the country based on politics in the rightward direction. But beyond your standard conservatrolling, why are any of those first three things bad?

These are all things that threaten our constitutional system of laws, checks, and balances. We shouldn't take living in a free society for granted. Anything that takes away power from a political minority is dangerous.

The GND is the least dangerous of them, but actually printing $93 trillion could cause hyperinflation and end the dollar's status as the world reserve currency. I personally think all the hyperventilating about 8% inflation is overblown, but if we print $93 trillion we might end up with more like 500% inflation. That could cause extreme chaos and make everyone a lot poorer.

red_sox_777 posted...

These are all things that threaten our constitutional system of laws, checks, and balances. We shouldn't take living in a free society for granted. Anything that takes away power from a political minority is dangerous.

Not when the political minority are Fascists.