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ZannoL 10/06/22 1:01:47 PM #1: |
Do you think you could ever be a vegan?
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https://bit.ly/3SIvOZv Stranger Things actor Sadie Sink has urged people to consider going vegan as she stars in a new campaign with Stella McCartney. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/4/AAaB-xAADwES.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/06/22 1:05:19 PM #2: |
absolutely not, I would never go vegan. Fuck that, I need nutrients and I want to eat as naturally as I can. You cant eat naturally as a vegan, you need tons of supplements and/or fake food. Plus I just enjoy meat and dairy. i could go vegetarian but it would involve eating 12 eggs a day. So whats the point at that point? --- - silverhyruler post ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoesntMatter 10/06/22 1:05:57 PM #3: |
i have considered it and decided against it --- It don't matter. None of this matters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/06/22 1:06:31 PM #4: |
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MrToothHasYou 10/06/22 1:06:47 PM #5: |
It would definitely be better overall for the world, but so could just everyone choosing to eat less meat instead of going straight vegan. I personally could never give up cheese, but everything else I could pretty easily get along without. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SquantoZ 10/06/22 1:07:43 PM #6: |
I've done it for like 3 months at a time but meat is just too yummy and such an easy source of protein so my wife and I just decided to minimize our meat and seafood intake by like 50%. --- "Context Matters" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 10/06/22 1:07:58 PM #7: |
Ryuko_Chan posted... fake foodOne definitely does not need to eat Beyond Meat or Impossible meat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 10/06/22 1:10:32 PM #8: |
SquantoZ posted... I've done it for like 3 months at a time but meat is just too yummy and such an easy source of protein so my wife and I just decided to minimize our meat and seafood intake by like 50%.That's me as well. Good for the wallet and good for the health. Less meat means more room for veggies, legumes, etc. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 10/06/22 1:10:37 PM #9: |
Nah, meat is too tasty and individual choice doesn't impact anything to do with the treatment of animals or environmental concerns. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 10/06/22 1:11:16 PM #10: |
MrToothHasYou posted... I personally could never give up cheese, but everything else I could pretty easily get along without.Vegan cheese is kind of having a moment. I heard Chao cheese is a really good brand. I need to try it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 10/06/22 1:11:47 PM #11: |
I could probably go veggie, but vegan is too much hassle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CalosiaTana 10/06/22 1:12:12 PM #12: |
No thanks --- Big man, pig man Ha ha, charade you are ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/06/22 1:12:24 PM #13: |
ZannoL posted... One definitely does not need to eat Beyond Meat or Impossible meat.Supplements and/or fake food Youre going to be deficient of iron, zinc and calcium, vitamin B12, omega 3s, etc. Youre also not going to have enough protein to lift, which I do --- - silverhyruler post ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 10/06/22 1:13:12 PM #14: |
Vegan diet is pretty easy tbh. Most vegans I know don't know how to cook though so they have a rough time. Also the raw foods trend a few years back did a real number on the vegan community imo. That shit sucked lol --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:14:05 PM #15: |
Questionmarktarius posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/1/AAEhCpAADq0T.jpg Not a vegan or vegetarian, and like bacon just fine, but posts like these are fucking childish nonsense. Have been significantly reducing meat consumption, partly a choice partly for budget reasons, and I actually am happy with it. Been making use of beans, bulgur, and tofu instead and they're all really good. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 10/06/22 1:14:42 PM #16: |
Ryuko_Chan posted... Supplements and/or fake food....You're aware you can easily get iron, zinc, calcium, and omega's from plant foods, right? B12 would really be the only one that vegans would need to take if they are eating a whole food plant-based diet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 10/06/22 1:14:46 PM #17: |
ZannoL posted... Vegan cheese is kind of having a moment.so is Aubrey plaza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 10/06/22 1:15:27 PM #18: |
FaultyCircuitry posted... Have been significantly reducing meat consumption, partly a choice partly for budget reasons, and I actually am happy with it. Been making use of beans, bulgur, and tofu instead and they're all really good.More fiber is always a good thing Average American isn't getting enough. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/06/22 1:15:42 PM #19: |
ZannoL posted... ....You're aware you can easily get iron, zinc, calcium, and omega's from plant foods, right?Not as much as from an omnivorous diet like our body has evolved to eat. Theres a reason many vegans are deficient. --- - silverhyruler post ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:16:18 PM #20: |
"fake food" Lmao You only end up nutritionally in a deficit if you don't know how to use the good non-animal based protein sources to your advantage. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meestermj 10/06/22 1:16:56 PM #21: |
Saying everyone should be vegan is an entirely privileged viewpoint to have. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:17:56 PM #22: |
Also our body isn't especially good at digesting meat so "evolved to be omnivores" is kind of contentious. Like we can, obviously, but we very clearly are not meant to eat anywhere near the abnormally high amounts that Western diets contain. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/06/22 1:19:40 PM #23: |
FaultyCircuitry posted... "fake food"Whats your deadlift? --- - silverhyruler post ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 10/06/22 1:20:45 PM #24: |
you absolutely can. you just need to unlearn bad habits. after a few months, your tastes will change. Ryuko_Chan posted... You cant eat naturally as a vegan, you need tons of supplements and/or fake food. absolute rubbish. i take one supplement for B12 and iron. i very rarely eat those "fake meat" products. my diet now is more healthy and natural than when i was eating non-vegan products (much more processed food) --- Playing: Yakuza: Like a Dragon I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 10/06/22 1:21:13 PM #25: |
Shes probably right. I could give up meat and have before during a weight loss period, but dairy would be tough. --- As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance. Libertarian socialist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:21:26 PM #26: |
Ryuko_Chan posted... Whats your deadlift? Don't know, don't lift. No desire to. That said if you are actively attempting to build muscle through some specific diet and exercise regimen you are inherently eating something that is not natural. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 10/06/22 1:22:41 PM #27: |
ZannoL posted... Vegan cheese is kind of having a moment.I feel like every couple years one of my vegan friends will put me on to the newest attempt at vegan cheese substitutes, and they all are terrible to me. I guess Im just not a huge fan of substitutes in the first place. I dont do like veggie burgers or crumbles or whatnot to replace real meatif Im eating meatless I dont want to replace the meat with something thats pretending to be meat, I want to eat something thats good on its own, you know? --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 10/06/22 1:23:36 PM #28: |
MrToothHasYou posted... I dont do like veggie burgers or crumbles or whatnot to replace real meatif Im eating meatless I dont want to replace the meat with something thats pretending to be meat, I want to eat something thats good on its own, you know? im with you. when i get a 'veggie burger', i want it to taste like a veggie burger, not like beef. AloneIBreak posted... but dairy would be tough. dairy is the hardest thing to avoid when i dine out. so many things are cooked in butter. i can't even get rice at Indian places. --- Playing: Yakuza: Like a Dragon I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 10/06/22 1:23:49 PM #29: |
Some of y'all seem super defensive about eating meat. Kinda hilarious. --- #EatTheRich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 10/06/22 1:24:47 PM #30: |
i dont think i could ever go vegan but i try to buy meat form the local hutterite colony whenever i can because then i at least know the animals werent horribly mistreated like they can be at factory farms --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/06/22 1:24:54 PM #31: |
FaultyCircuitry posted... Don't know, don't lift. No desire to.I dont use protein powder if thats what youre trying to imply. I eat chicken breast and eggs instead. Protein powder is only necessary if youre too lazy/busy to cook or a vegan. No whole food plant source will let you hit your macros properly --- - silverhyruler post ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:25:00 PM #32: |
MrToothHasYou posted... I feel like every couple years one of my vegan friends will put me on to the newest attempt at vegan cheese substitutes, and they all are terrible to me. Veggie burgers aren't really an attempt to replace meat like the Beyond things are. They're really just using the burger form factor but otherwise are a different experience. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 10/06/22 1:25:19 PM #33: |
I dont think I could do vegan, but I could do vegetarian. Im practically already there. The only meat I eat is chicken, and even then that isnt very often. Sometimes bacon (mainly on pizza) but I can absolutely give it up totally if I need to. --- Fifty years from now when you're looking back on your life, don't you want to say you had the guts to get in the car? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 10/06/22 1:28:08 PM #34: |
to everyone who says "i couldn't / can't go vegan". yes, you absolutely can. you just have to try. learn to cook your own food and it's not difficult, it just takes getting used to. don't start by thinking "i am going to be vegan forever". start by being vegan for just one day. then try two in a row. then do three or four, then a week. your tastes adapt. feel free to AMA about being vegan if you want to know why i went vegan, it's because of this. i beg anyone who has compassion for animals to watch this video and learn what food actually costs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko --- Playing: Yakuza: Like a Dragon I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meestermj 10/06/22 1:29:48 PM #35: |
I absolutely could be vegan. However it would stretch my budget very thin, and I would be miserable. I enjoy meat and have no desire to give it up. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 10/06/22 1:30:48 PM #36: |
meestermj posted... However it would stretch my budget very thin, and I would be miserable. huh? rice and beans are cheap as fuck. the most expensive part of my grocery trips used to be meat. and if you avoid those "fake meats", eating vegan is incredibly inexpensive. --- Playing: Yakuza: Like a Dragon I hope something good happens to you today ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoesntMatter 10/06/22 1:32:04 PM #37: |
Unknown5uspect posted... Some of y'all seem super defensive about eating meat. Kinda hilarious.are we reading the same topic? way more defensiveness about veganism itt --- It don't matter. None of this matters. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GeneralKenobi85 10/06/22 1:32:51 PM #38: |
I tried tofu a while back for the first time and I thought it was great. I think if I really wanted to I could give up most meats. Chicken and fish would be the really difficult ones though. But the most I'll ever do is maybe try more vegan foods. I wouldn't want to make it my entire diet. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlantBased 10/06/22 1:33:22 PM #39: |
Ryuko_Chan posted... I just enjoy meat and dairy.You can just skip to this part. You don't need to spread lies and misinformation to rationalize it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meestermj 10/06/22 1:33:51 PM #40: |
Giant_Aspirin posted... huh? rice and beans are cheap as fuck. the most expensive part of my grocery trips used to be meat. and if you avoid those "fake meats", eating vegan is incredibly inexpensive.I'm not having an argument. I'm stating my reasons. And if rice and beans are all someone eats, that's fucking miserable and I want no part of it. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 10/06/22 1:34:09 PM #41: |
DoesntMatter posted... i have considered it and decided against it --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:34:43 PM #42: |
Giant_Aspirin posted... to everyone who says "i couldn't / can't go vegan". yes, you absolutely can. you just have to try. learn to cook your own food and it's not difficult, it just takes getting used to. don't start by thinking "i am going to be vegan forever". start by being vegan for just one day. then try two in a row. then do three or four, then a week. your tastes adapt. While I am understanding of the ethical vegan arguments, they don't matter at all until migrant workers that are abused and degraded on a great number of farms across the country are no longer treated as disposable tools. The human rights issues that are part of the industrial farming system are a much larger concern. Vegetarian/vegan diets based on health make far more sense. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 10/06/22 1:34:55 PM #43: |
FaultyCircuitry posted... but posts like these are fucking childish nonsenseyou're no fun. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:35:40 PM #44: |
meestermj posted... I'm not having an argument. Your reasons about it "stretching your budget" are wrong tho so --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlantBased 10/06/22 1:35:50 PM #45: |
Questionmarktarius posted... you're no fun.You have to understand how ridiculously played out "le epic bacon" is in general by this point, even to a lot of non-vegans. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaultyCircuitry 10/06/22 1:35:54 PM #46: |
Questionmarktarius posted... you're no fun. I know. --- And I'd never do it but it's not a joke; I can't tell the difference when I'm all alone // https://www.last.fm/user/crushedaria ~[she/her|they/them]~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlantBased 10/06/22 1:37:06 PM #47: |
FaultyCircuitry posted... While I am understanding of the ethical vegan arguments, they don't matter all until migrant workers that are abused and degraded on a great number of farms across the country are no longer treated as disposable tools.The worst of which arguably happens in slaughterhouses. You're advocating maximum cruelty of humans and non-human animals with this logic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 10/06/22 1:37:35 PM #48: |
With the alternatives we have now compared to a decade ago I could go vegan if I had to. At present I won't. Until the various food and supply shortages I was doing meatless Monday with having a frozen cheese pizza for dinner those days but sometimes they aren't in stock. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 10/06/22 1:39:34 PM #50: |
Giant_Aspirin posted... dairy is the hardest thing to avoid when i dine out. so many things are cooked in butter. i can't even get rice at Indian places.I didnt even think about that. I have no idea what my food is cooked in most of the time. Giant_Aspirin posted... to everyone who says "i couldn't / can't go vegan". yes, you absolutely can. you just have to try. learn to cook your own food and it's not difficult, it just takes getting used to. don't start by thinking "i am going to be vegan forever". start by being vegan for just one day. then try two in a row. then do three or four, then a week. your tastes adapt.I recently decided Im going to read Singers Animal Liberation because speciesism bothers me more and more as time goes on and the delineation between humans and non-human animals seems more and more arbitrary the more I think about it. My biggest concern is cost and ease. My budget is awfully tight and the family pack of chicken legs I bought the other day was less than $1.50/lb and will be impossibly easy to cook (apply seasoning, put in air fryer, press button), and will supply many meals. I suppose when I inevitably go vegan Im going to have to learn some cooking skills in the process. --- As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance. Libertarian socialist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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