Current Events > Jeannette McCurdy is sick of society putting mothers on pedestals

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ZannoL
10/13/22 7:50:10 PM
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Do you agree with her that society gives mothers mythological status


Finally finished her book.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/0/AAaB-xAADxnw.jpg

She had this to say about society placing mothers on pedestals:

Moms are saints. Angels by merely existing. NO ONE could possibly understand what its like to be a mom. Men will never understand. Women with no children will never understand. No one but moms know the hardship of motherhood, and we non-moms must heap nothing but praise upon moms because we lowly, pitiful non-moms are mere peasants compared to the goddesses we call mothers. Maybe I feel this way now because I viewed my mom that way for so long. I had her up on a pedestal, and I know how detrimental that pedestal was to my well-being and life. That pedestal kept me stuck, emotionally stunted, living in fear, dependent, in a near constant state of emotional pain and without the tools to even identify that pain let alone deal with it. My mom didnt deserve her pedestal. She was a narcissist. She refused to admit she had any problems, despite how destructive those problems were to our entire family. My mom emotionally, mentally, and physically abused me in ways that will forever impact me.

She gave me breast and vaginal exams until I was seventeen years old. These exams made my body stiff with discomfort. I felt violated, yet I had no voice, no ability to express that. I was conditioned to believe any boundary I wanted was a betrayal of her, so I stayed silent. Cooperative. When I was six years old, she pushed me into a career I didnt want. Im grateful for the financial stability that career has provided me, but not much else. I was not equipped to handle the entertainment industry and all of its competitiveness, rejection, stakes, harsh realities, fame. I needed that time, those years, to develop as a child. To form my identity. To grow. I can never get those years back.
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Gwynevere
10/13/22 7:51:56 PM
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Parents should never be put on pedestals simply for being parents. You aren't owed your child's love

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ZannoL
10/13/22 7:52:28 PM
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I do agree with her. I think the whole love your parents unconditionally mindset can be toxic, especially to those who have horrible parents. Some parents are horrible people and the best thing to do is to keep your distance.
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Aridi
10/13/22 7:55:25 PM
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Should lead with the 2nd paragraph. She was abused, period. She has every right to hate.

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Fony
10/13/22 7:55:47 PM
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There's nothing special about being a mother.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 7:58:42 PM
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Fony posted...
There's nothing special about being a mother.
I think we can all agree that mothers and fathers should be treated like everyone else. They are no greater than anyone else.
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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:01:33 PM
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She expands on society putting mothers on pedestals at 1:50:

https://youtu.be/TopEod2SdxQ
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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:04:25 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Parents should never be put on pedestals simply for being parents.
Yes.
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ZMythos
10/13/22 8:04:33 PM
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Parenting isn't easy, I can agree with that.

But parents do not know what's best for their kids in most circumstances.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/13/22 8:05:16 PM
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Mothers Day = cancelled!

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gunplagirl
10/13/22 8:06:59 PM
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The worst people I know are all parents.

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AmericaTheBrave
10/13/22 8:07:02 PM
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Just cuz her mom sucks doesn't mean everyone's does.

Fony posted...
There's nothing special about being a mother.

Yes there is. Motherhood is a beautiful thing. Nothing more pure than a mother's love for her child.

Respect women.

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Popcorn2000
10/13/22 8:07:46 PM
#14:


Fuck them bitches
  • Jeanette Mccurdy
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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:08:26 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Just cuz her mom sucks doesn't mean everyone's does.
..I dont think thats what she said at all.

Its clear that what shes saying is that mothers are just like everyone else. There are good mothers and bad mothers. Just like how there are good fathers and bad fathers.

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Smackems
10/13/22 8:08:29 PM
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I can't wait to not read that!

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Kan-Wan
10/13/22 8:10:10 PM
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I think its too on the nose for our culture to feed exactly into what we want to hear. Rather than understanding someone elses trauma we rather crucify them for not recognizing ours. Its a cycle that once youre healed you realize that being healthy means letting go and accepting someone did you wrong.

I mean terrible mothers exist.. terrible actions exist.. but yeah
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AvlButtslam
10/13/22 8:11:44 PM
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I just finished the audiobook the other day too. It was a good listen. Her mom sucked for sure. The stories werent anything too wild or unexpected besides her mom not letting the kids bathe themselves until they were nearly adults, but besides that it was all very real and relatable.

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Fony
10/13/22 8:13:18 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Motherhood is a beautiful thing.

Yea, when the woman in question is an actual mother and not a bitch with kids. Parenthood is a duty and a function, not a title. It doesn't mean anything "intrinsically" besides the human animal was able to breed. The only people who think there's some inherent value in being a mother are basically bad mothers and their tragic offspring. Normal people know it's something you do and have to actually work at.

It's only even a conversation because today we both pedestalize and infantilize adults for no discernable reason for doing the bare minimum. There was a time when it was pretty universal to hold people to standards in how they parent.

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Heartomaton
10/13/22 8:13:36 PM
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She's right.

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AmericaTheBrave
10/13/22 8:13:46 PM
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ZannoL posted...
There are good mothers and bad mothers. Just like how there are good fathers and bad fathers.

I can agree with that.

There are people who should never be or should never have been parents.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:18:29 PM
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At 2:40 she talks about the outpouring of support she got after she released her book:

https://youtu.be/llkM9-tSTaM

She says that people would go up to her or write to her online and admit that reading her book gave them permission to say the same after bottling up trauma for so long. Thats powerful stuff right there.

Also, her book is still selling like hotcakes:

https://theblast.com/334900/jennette-mccurdys-memoir-holds-the-1-spot-as-new-york-times-bestseller-for-8-weeks/

Jennette McCurdys memoir, Im Glad My Mom Died has held the number one spot on the New York Times Bestsellers Print Hardcover list for eight weeks, and McCurdy is showing her appreciation for all who have helped make that happen in an Instagram post.

Well deserved. Very honest book.
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PiOverlord
10/13/22 8:19:55 PM
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human motherhood and fatherhood is a very interesting subject to me.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:22:11 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
I can agree with that.

There are people who should never be or should never have been parents.

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The_Popo
10/13/22 8:22:41 PM
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Whenever I scroll through any social media, I have two categories of friends who are always posting things about how hard they have it and how underappreciated they are

Mothers
Teachers

it gets annoying to read it all the damn time.

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Biofighter55
10/13/22 8:26:04 PM
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AvlButtslam posted...
I just finished the audiobook the other day too. It was a good listen. Her mom sucked for sure. The stories werent anything too wild or unexpected besides her mom not letting the kids bathe themselves until they were nearly adults, but besides that it was all very real and relatable.

her mother sticking her hand up her vagina and anus to make sure she kept her purity against her will wasnt wild enough for you?

i feel like most people would consider that sexual assault against a minor but not crazy enough for you I see

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:26:54 PM
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The_Popo posted...
Whenever I scroll through any social media, I have two categories of friends who are always posting things about how hard they have it and how underappreciated they are

Mothers
Teachers

it gets annoying to read it all the damn time.
I would probably be annoyed, too, if that was on my feed 24/7.

I think everyone is having a hard time right now (pandemic, inflation, etc.)
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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:28:06 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
her mother sticking her hand up her vagina and anus to make sure she kept her purity against her will wasnt wild enough for you?

i feel like most people would consider that sexual assault against a minor but not crazy enough for you I see
My thoughts as well.

Not only was she sexually abused, but she was verbally abused too.
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Kakapo
10/13/22 8:29:05 PM
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Being a parent is a huge responsibility, and nobody is a good parent by default.

You need to actually make an effort to be a decent parent, and every parent has the duty to do their utmost to ensure their child grows up to be a healthy, well-balanced adult.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:30:34 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Its kind of rare to find true candor in a celebrity book. Most of them are ghost written and lifeless.

With Jeannettes book, I was honestly blown away by the candor and introspection. She did not hold back at all.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/13/22 8:30:38 PM
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My mom is my greatest asset. I don't know why her mom being a piece of shit means she has to come for my mom lol.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:32:15 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
My mom is my greatest asset. I don't know why her mom being a piece of shit means she has to come for my mom lol.
Shes not coming for your mom.

Shes simply saying that its idiotic that society largely elevates all mothers. She is saying that nuance exists and that not all mothers deserve praise.

I dont think shes wrong.
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Lost_All_Senses
10/13/22 8:33:28 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Shes not coming for your mom.

Shes simply saying that its idiotic that society largely elevates mothers. She is saying that nuance exists and that not all mothers deserve praise.

I dont think shes wrong.

Why you coming at my mom now?

Can everyone just leave my mom alone?!?!

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:33:49 PM
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Kan-Wan
10/13/22 8:37:14 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Shes not coming for your mom.

Shes simply saying that its idiotic that society largely elevates all mothers. She is saying that nuance exists and that not all mothers deserve praise.

I dont think shes wrong.

Moms are put on pedestals for a reason lol why do you think that is - maybe she doesnt know why either?

Thats fair considering her experiences with her own mother
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Lost_All_Senses
10/13/22 8:38:15 PM
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Neh. I get you though. I try not to take statements that generalize not too literal. But generalizing does just make for bad conversation in general. Just say something like "Mothers don't deserve to be put on a pedestal just for being mothers" and it's way more immediately understandable. Especially in a time when we read headlines way more than full articles.

Either way. I agree with the sentiment. But my mom is a hero and can beat up all your moms with one hand.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 8:38:31 PM
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Kan-Wan posted...
Moms are put on pedestals for a reason lol why do you think that is - maybe she doesnt know why either?
Anyone else want to respond to this guy?

I have dinner to whip up.
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ChrisTaka
10/13/22 8:41:46 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Parents should never be put on pedestals simply for being parents. You aren't owed your child's love

I agree. Thankfully I was lucky enough to live in a household where both of my parents were good people and I love them for that, but I love them because they're good people, not just because they're my parents.

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Space__Cowboy
10/13/22 8:59:23 PM
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Is there a tl;dr for the OP?

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LinkPizza
10/13/22 8:59:23 PM
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I dont think parents should be out in a pedestal just for being parents. That said, I do put mine on a pedestal for being awesome parents that always help me when I need it. We are all very close and stuff

ZMythos posted...
Parenting isn't easy, I can agree with that.

But parents do not know what's best for their kids in most circumstances.

That can be true But neither do kids, in certain circumstances. Kids want to do a lot things that wouldnt be good for them. In many cases, parents know whats best based on the choices available That said, it doesnt always means parents will pick those choices

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Kan-Wan
10/13/22 9:01:08 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I dont think parents should be out in a pedestal just for being parents. That said, I do put mine on a pedestal for being awesome parents that always help me when I need it. We are all very close and stuff

That can be true But neither do kids, in certain circumstances. Kids want to do a lot things that wouldnt be good for them. In many cases, parents know whats best based on the choices available That said, it doesnt always means parents will pick those choices

The world isnt ready for this discussion weve already had in the past
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pfh1001
10/13/22 9:06:49 PM
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She's absolutely right, but you can already see people getting defensive here, so nothing will change.
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DespondentDeity
10/13/22 9:07:00 PM
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Both of my parents were vicious abusers

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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/13/22 9:27:19 PM
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Idk who needs to hear this, but FUCK Lost_All_Senses' mom

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FatAnimeBooty
10/13/22 9:28:40 PM
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Mommies deserve to be worshiped
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ZannoL
10/13/22 9:37:36 PM
#47:


pfh1001 posted...
She's absolutely right, but you can already see people getting defensive here, so nothing will change.
Look at the poll results.

Also, like I said in post #22, she has received a massive outpouring of support in which people have thanked her and subsequently confided to her that her book gave them permission to say the same.

Her book has has been trending everywhere (Goodreads, TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, and has been the top selling book for weeks). People are clearly interested.

The dialogue has begun, which is not an insignificant thing.

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ZannoL
10/13/22 9:38:13 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Either way. I agree with the sentiment. But my mom is a hero and can beat up all your moms with one hand.

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FortuneCookie
10/13/22 9:39:06 PM
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Holy shit, I didn't even catch that it was an urn she was holding on the cover.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/13/22 9:39:28 PM
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We need to stop putting teachers on a pedestal too, some of them are also abusers

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