Current Events > Protestors throw soup on Van Gogh painting to protest fossil fuel extraction

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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

That's cool, so did everyone. They weren't talking about it, though, and now they are. See how that works?

Ok.

Still doing nothing.

Here's the "irreplaceable glorious cultural artifact" in question btw:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/0/AAXQ7ZAADxzU.jpg

Something that literally your mother could and has done better than in her junior high art class. Totally more important than surviving as a species though lmao

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

Here's the "irreplaceable glorious cultural artifact" in question btw:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/0/AAXQ7ZAADxzU.jpg

Something that literally your mother could and has done better than in her junior high art class. Totally more important than surviving as a species though lmao

Yet done by someone far more famous then your entire family line

the painting is valuable. the planet is more valuable

Tom_Joad posted...

How many solar panels could have been bought with the money used for this stunt?

Could a home have been converted to solar?

Instead, though, their in jail... their message and credibility harmed... and the climate no better off than yesterday.

Great job, protestors.

Uh. How many solar panels can you buy for the cost of a can of tomato soup and the cleaning off of glass? Probably. Zero?

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

Something that literally your mother could and has done better than in her junior high art class.

Irrelevant to historical significance.

Totally more important than surviving as a species though lmao

That's not really the choice though. And you are an idiot for pretending it is just to simp for two morons.

Baha05 posted...

Yet done by someone far more famous then your entire family line

The sad part about this simpery is that you debase yourself in the process. Inadvertently saying that Justin Bieber is better than you isn't the own you think it is

based

until it affects me personally of course

Collat posted...

just to simp for two morons.

You're literally simping for shitty art that is ugly at the expense of your own future.

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See how that works?

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

The sad part about this simpery is that you debase yourself in the process. Inadvertently saying that Justin Bieber is better than you isn't the own you think it is

That would be true too, art is highly subjective and Im not a singer of any sort so even the ones that are considered bad are probably miles better then me. Doesnt change the fact that Im trying to shit on art made by someone who is far more famous then most of the people on this website will more likely ever be.

The snow crabs are dying and you guys just care about some stupid fucking painting!!!

I hope AI completely get rid of the need for human artists soon. Keep it up programmers

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

You're literally simping for shitty art that is ugly at the expense of your own future.

Dude is long dead. I don't think that word really applies here.

And how is it at the expense of my own future? The earth is getting fried whether the painting exists or not. Go after Jeff Besos or someone actually causing harm.

Baha05 posted...

someone who is far more famous

This is meaningless, though. The thing about fame is that it depends on people who are not in order to exist. It's self-defeating like that. If your argument is that something is worthwhile because people who are worthless remember you for it then wtf is the point of fame? To be revered by worthless mongrels who don't matter? Sounds like a house built on sand to me.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

This is meaningless, though. The thing about fame is that it depends on people who are not in order to exist. It's self-defeating like that. If your argument is that something is worthwhile because people who are worthless remember you for it then wtf is the point of fame? To be revered by worthless mongrels who don't matter? Sounds like a house built on sand to me.

Then by all means if thats the case then the argument can be made that it is 110% pointless to vandalize these paintings.

History may repeat itself, but people cannot return to the past.

Baha05 posted...

Then by all means if thats the case then the argument can be made that it is 110% pointless to vandalize these paintings.

Not really because people still believe they have value, which is the only thing that needs to be true for this stunt to create attention.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

Not really because people still believe they have value, which is the only thing that needs to be true for this stunt to create attention.

Then its a worthless stunt either way and only serves to have people not look at your cause because you arent doing anything that will impact change by defacing art.

I guess if the painting wasnt harmed it's really not that big of a deal tbh.

Ton of missing posts for the last five pages or so, which could only mean the quality of this topic has improved considerably.

NeoShadowhen posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/9/AAIbIbAADxy_.jpg

Uh oh the plot thickens

Imagine if this turned out to be some white nationalist movement to make environmentalists look bad.

All the people defending them would feel just as dumb as they look right now.

Baha05 posted...

Then its a worthless stunt either way and only serves to have people not look at your cause because you arent doing anything that will impact change by defacing art.

People say this about any protest these days though. Be it one that gets in the way, or one that just peacefully marches in the street.

People are selfish and just want you to keep quiet, put your head down and never complain so they can continue to exist in mediocrity. All the while ignoring they are inching close to a cliff while the guys at the top are marching the other way and securing themselves.

If people are going to complain no matter what, why not just go loud and big? Force attention on whatever you are speaking out about? Peaceful and small protests just get ignored by the media and people at large, so if they want to make an impact they often feel they need to cause disruption.

Collat posted...

Imagine if this turned out to be some white nationalist movement to make environmentalists look bad.

All the people defending them would feel just as dumb as they look right now.

This conspiracy theory didn't stick when you tried using it for the Jan 06 incident and it won't stick now

Funkydog posted...

People say this about any protest these days though. Be it one that gets in the way, or one that just peacefully marches in the street.

People are selfish and just want you to keep quiet, put your head down and never complain so they can continue to exist in mediocrity. All the while ignoring they are inching close to a cliff while the guys at the top are marching the other way and securing themselves.

If people are going to complain no matter what, why not just go loud and big? Force attention on whatever you are speaking out about? Peaceful and small protests just get ignored by the media and people at large, so if they want to make an impact they often feel they need to cause disruption.

See this guy gets it.

Funkydog posted...

People say this about any protest these days though. Be it one that gets in the way, or one that just peacefully marches in the street.

People are selfish and just want you to keep quiet, put your head down and never complain so they can continue to exist in mediocrity. All the while ignoring they are inching close to a cliff while the guys at the top are marching the other way and securing themselves.

If people are going to complain no matter what, why not just go loud and big? Force attention on whatever you are speaking out about? Peaceful and small protests just get ignored by the media and people at large, so if they want to make an impact they often feel they need to cause disruption.

Funkydog posted...

People say this about any protest these days though. Be it one that gets in the way, or one that just peacefully marches in the street.

People are selfish and just want you to keep quiet, put your head down and never complain so they can continue to exist in mediocrity. All the while ignoring they are inching close to a cliff while the guys at the top are marching the other way and securing themselves.

If people are going to complain no matter what, why not just go loud and big? Force attention on whatever you are speaking out about? Peaceful and small protests just get ignored by the media and people at large, so if they want to make an impact they often feel they need to cause disruption.

Then maybe they need to target shit that actually matters and not trying to deface a work of art.

masterpug53 posted...

I will say that I would very much resent being written off as someone who doesn't value human life simply because I also value the preservation of art history.

I don't think you don't value life. I just think that the overall point, that climate change will end humanity, is so much more important than preserving art history.
Now whether the protest is effective in stopping climate change, idk. But something needs to be done and I can't blame people for stirring up controversy in a way that grabs peoples attention.

I get the idea that you care so much about history and culture that you immediately shut off, but maybe it isn't supposed to speak to you. Just like when people chain themselves to trees, there are people who don't care. Or anytime protestors block traffic there are people who want to run them over.
Protests are supposed to be in your face. Protests are supposed to make you angry. Protests are supposed to be inconvenient. For you this act is unforgiveable but to someone else it may help bring awareness. Just like how the destruction of property in BLM riots may not bother you but it will cause others to be even angrier

Baha05 posted...

Then maybe they need to target shit that actually matters and not trying to deface a work of art.

Maybe. But targeting these things has got people around the world talking about them and what they are protesting. That is all they ultimately trying to do with these stunts.

Funkydog posted...

Maybe. But targeting these things has got people around the world talking about them and what they are protesting. That is all they ultimately trying to do with these stunts.

Which in general is backfiring because it's less focused on their message and more on look at these dopey assholes ruining art.

Baha05 posted...

Then maybe they need to target shit that actually matters and not trying to deface a work of art.

You're doing just what he said though, because if they did, you'd be calling them terrorists or whatever instead. He's right, you just want protestors and other dissidents to do nothing/not exist

Baha05 posted...

Which in general is backfiring because it's less focused on their message and more on look at these dopey assholes ruining art.

Firstly, no art was ruined as it's all covered in screens and unless you care about protective screens...

Secondly, People would bitch no matter how they protested.

Peaceful march in the streets? I HAVE TO GET SOMEWHERE, NOW MOVE OR IM GOING TO RUN YOU ALL OVER AND TURN YOU TO PASTE!

Sit in protests? DON'T THEY HAVE JOBS, THE LAZY BUMS?

Gather outside the place you're protesting? WHY ARE THEY CAUSING SUCH A SCENE AND BEING LOUD? THINK OF THE POOR WORKERS!

It's all so whatever. Protest as loudly and annoyingly as you can, as anything else will be ignored and you will be considered the lowest of scum regardless.

Now, not saying I find their current method of defacing protective screens effective, but I don't really fault them for doing it.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

You're doing just what he said though, because if they did, you'd be calling them terrorists or whatever instead. He's right, you just want protestors and other dissidents to do nothing/not exist

Or I want them to find ways that will do more for their cause and getting people on their sides. Being a totally dick solves nothing here.

Funkydog posted...

Firstly, no art was ruined as it's all covered in screens and unless you care about protective screens...

Secondly, People would bitch no matter how they protested.

Peaceful march in the streets? I HAVE TO GET SOMEWHERE, NOW MOVE OR IM GOING TO RUN YOU ALL OVER AND TURN YOU TO PASTE!

Sit in protests? DON'T THEY HAVE JOBS, THE LAZY BUMS?

Gather outside the place you're protesting? WHY ARE THEY CAUSING SUCH A SCENE AND BEING LOUD? THINK OF THE POOR WORKERS!

It's all so whatever. Protest as loudly and annoyingly as you can, as anything else will be ignored and you will be considered the lowest of scum regardless.

Now, not saying I find their current method of defacing protective screens effective, but I don't really fault them for doing it.

And in some cases yeah people will always complain that will be a thing but when you start attempting to deface things or destroy shit that has NOTHING to do with your cause you can fuck right off, more so if it does more harm to the cause.

Baha05 posted...

And in some cases yeah people will always complain that will be a thing but when you start attempting to deface things or destroy shit that has NOTHING to do with your cause you can fuck right off, more so if it does more harm to the cause.

You are really concerned about protective glass screens, huh?

And what do you propose people do to get people on board to do something about climate change?

Scientists have been ringing the alarm bells for decades, we are taught the dangers in school, the media constantly reports we are seeing dangerous weather all the time as a result, warnings are put across the world constantly.

And still people, the governments and corporations don't care. And all because a few billionaires need to make a few more millions before they fuck off and the rest of the planet dies. Please tell me what peaceful things you expect people to do that aren't already being done?

if your minor inconvenience turns you against a good cause, uh.............................

Are some of you real people? lol pathetic.

What a bunch of idiots, this is why environmentalists aren't taken seriously anymore.

Funkydog posted...

You are really concerned about protective glass screens, huh?

And what do you propose people do to get people on board to do something about climate change?

Scientists have been ringing the alarm bells for decades, we are taught the dangers in school, the media constantly reports we are seeing dangerous weather all the time as a result, warnings are put across the world constantly.

And still people, the governments and corporations don't care. And all because a few billionaires need to make a few more millions before they fuck off and the rest of the planet dies. Please tell me what peaceful things you expect people to do that aren't already being done?

Doesn't matter if there is a screen or not, you do realize that they were going to do this regardless of it being protected or not for the point of clout?

And just about anything else that isn't destroying works of art. I mean fuck pick up some garbage, plant some tries, idk anything that can help. What does attempted vandalism do outside make peopee question you?

Baha05 posted...

Doesn't matter if there is a screen or not, you do realize that they were going to do this regardless of it being protected or not for the point of clout?

And just about anything else that isn't destroying works of art. I mean fuck pick up some garbage, plant some tries, idk anything that can help. What does attempted vandalism do outside make peopee question you?

Because a few more people planting trees won't actually fix the problem. It's a "feel good" answer, rather than an actual one. Unless we move away from fossil fuels we're fucked as a species. All they are trying to do is get attention, and the best way is with a spectacle.

Zonbei posted...

Uh. How many solar panels can you buy for the cost of a can of tomato soup and the cleaning off of glass? Probably. Zero?

The soup, the rag, the cleaning solution, the tickets into the museum, the cost of the ride there... probably cost more than $29.

Which is the cost of a single 300w solar panel.

Now, which one helps the planet more?

Funkydog posted...

Because a few more people planting trees won't actually fix the problem. It's a "feel good" answer, rather than an actual one. Unless we move away from fossil fuels we're fucked as a species. All they are trying to do is get attention, and the best way is with a spectacle.

And as stated spectacles can backfire, messages can be ignored based on the situation and these two came off looking like assholes.

When people remember the jackass who threw a pie at the Mona Lisa, I guarantee their first thought is 'wow, that really opened my eyes to the dangers of climate change.'

Baha05 posted...

And as stated spectacles can backfire, messages can be ignored based on the situation and these two came off looking like assholes.

People ignore climate change protestors all the time anyway, so I guess they felt people at least briefly talking about them was better than being ignored.

Admittedly, in this case it probably hasn't really helped, but I ultimately don't blame them for going for spectacle.

Hop103 posted...

What a bunch of idiots, this is why environmentalists aren't taken seriously anymore.

"Anymore" lol
They never were, people have found reasons to hate these people for as long as they've existed. Most of those reasons are pre-made by oil interests, you don't even need to try

https://twitter.com/jestingtime/status/1580917667841847297?s=46&t=lJB2NlTdVW_B4PixhbgENw

MrToothHasYou posted...

https://twitter.com/jestingtime/status/1580917667841847297?s=46&t=lJB2NlTdVW_B4PixhbgENw

Fucking how?

Funkydog posted...

Because a few more people planting trees won't actually fix the problem. It's a "feel good" answer, rather than an actual one. Unless we move away from fossil fuels we're fucked as a species. All they are trying to do is get attention, and the best way is with a spectacle.

Things like this make it so people don't take them seriously. They also just make them angry at the people doing the vandalism instead of addressing anything.