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changmas 10/17/22 12:07:25 AM #201: |
PunishedBen posted... There is absolutely nothing saying that is the role that messed up my target last night. Because they're scum and not claiming im kind of having some fun with this so yeah lets indulge ourselves a bit. if the bus driving you previously proposed didn't mess up your target last night then who or what did --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 10/17/22 12:08:41 AM #202: |
PunishedBen posted... HB would have been the one redirected if he was town. This CONFIRMS him scum. Please everyone, if you read anything, read this.This is a logical statement. It's also probably very scripted. The one consistency you scummies have is that you're trying to accuse HB of being a liar. Everything else is all over the place. Peace___Frog posted... Vanillas do not get told when they are rb'd, because they do not have an action to take. You can not conclude from that that an rb does not exist.Didn't I mention this earlier? Yeah, post #135. But my theory is that scum doesn't have a proper RB anyway, so even if they did, they wasted it on a vanillager instead of using it on the claimed cop in an attempt to undermine HB's credibility. It's not working. It's not even fooling me. But yeah, I think there's no proper RB, but that's just what my logic is telling me. Part of my point that I may not have articulated well - my language is more confused than my head is, because I'm not particularly good at articulating my thoughts about people on the fly like this (I usually take a long time to go over things for this reason) - is that I don't know why scum would target anyone OTHER than HB with a proper roleblock. They probably also don't have a proper power to redirect him, just a power to redirect based on targets. So they had to pick who they thought he'd target and chose Kirby for whatever reason when that makes zero sense, since Kirby's not on anyone's radar. Again, cops should scan someone who people have different reads on or uncertainties about. Ben was more so the latter. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 12:18:37 AM #203: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... my theory is that scum doesn't have a proper RB anyway Does anyone in the game agree with this Theory aside from Ben --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 10/17/22 12:19:01 AM #204: |
changmas posted... im kind of having some fun with this so yeah lets indulge ourselves a bit.You. Lol --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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changmas 10/17/22 12:29:36 AM #205: |
PunishedBen posted... You. Lol i am disappointed. this would've been way more fun if lopen was answering and coming up with something i'd never think of in a thousand years --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/17/22 12:34:46 AM #206: |
PunishedBen posted... Nothing is botched. In fact, if I was scum I just claim vanilla. Anyone who has played with scum me knows I always claim vanilla as scum because why-ever the hell wouldnt you? Bullshit. I didn't forget Luxrey Skywalker, Town Neighborizer Or Doctor in Simple Mafia Literally the two games on this board where you were scum, you claimed anything but Vanilla Also, all of this Bus Driver "player A targeted player B because they wanted to kill player C" talk is hurting my head. Are we absolutely sure Ben isn't just making up redirection bullshit to make this whole thing deliberately confusing? --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 12:35:02 AM #207: |
Kirby is cult recruiter who recruited Han but he bus drives himself and anyone he recruits. scum team realized Kirby was cult leader and tried to kill him last night but failed --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/17/22 12:38:30 AM #208: |
Lopen posted... Kirby is cult recruiter who recruited Han but he bus drives himself and anyone he recruits. scum team realized Kirby was cult leader and tried to kill him last night but failed Damn You rite ##Vote: Kirby ... ... ... ##Unvote --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 12:59:40 AM #209: |
Cfwr --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 2:27:38 AM #210: |
##Vote: Ben See no reason to dawdle. We can go into the next day with more energy to solve. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 2:30:58 AM #211: |
Btw mass tomorrow is a must even if hb catches someone again if their claim makes anything resembling sense. This was only slam dunk because Ben's claim had many glaring issues. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 2:31:39 AM #212: |
Like we're at lylo for the rest of the game unless there is a no kill. Don't forget that. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 10/17/22 3:25:51 AM #213: |
Morning votals [3] Ben - HB, (Kirby), BCT, Lopen [1] HB - Ben [0] Kirby - (Kirby) [0] Lopen - (BCT) With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day ends at 7 PM EST Tuesday, October 15th. --- Sword IGN: Pandora, Brilliant Diamond IGN: Aurora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 7:46:23 AM #214: |
Yeah Ben is scum. But who are his team mates? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 7:53:21 AM #215: |
Hmm just a thought is there any chance HB is lying here? Not role blocked and left alive? But he is un-countered.. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 7:54:45 AM #216: |
So if HB is telling the truth. We know 4 things. Hb is town Abacus is town Ben is scum Lopen is "more than Likely scum" --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 7:55:59 AM #217: |
Another thing to consider night 1 was that scum kill and an extra kill or is there 3rd party floating around? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 7:58:36 AM #218: |
Kirby321 posted... Are we absolutely sure Ben isn't just making up redirection bullshit to make this whole thing deliberately confusing? Yes, because otherwise there is no explanation for hb having a result. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 7:59:43 AM #219: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... So if HB is telling the truth.I'm curious about your results but have come to the same conclusion. Ben, then bct/poppy/lopen is where my head is at. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:01:19 AM #220: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Hmm just a thought is there any chance HB is lying here? Let's look at the start of the day here. There was a plan. Leave hb alive and block him, so that his lack of result can be used in evidence of him being scum, in combination with his day 2 actions. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:03:58 AM #221: |
PoppyTheNinja posted... hi Lopen posted... Not the cop This was the plan from the get go. As abacus says, ViolentAbacus posted... HB is in contention, so better (in my opinion) to keep him alive temporarily to take out someone who was A) Generating content and B) was pretty much confirmed town by everyone. The reason nothing happened is because the scum team got cocky and underestimated things. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 8:07:51 AM #222: |
Peace___Frog posted... This was the plan from the get go. As abacus says, Maybe they do not have a role blocker at all? Granted no one claimed to be blocked --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:08:23 AM #223: |
That was literally poppy's only post this entire day. He didn't even come back to see a response. He asked it to lead us to a conclusion, and then left so that we could explode like we've been doing. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:09:20 AM #224: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Maybe they do not have a role blocker at all?If they don't have a blocker then they really gambled in things here. But i think the fact that hb was not blocked surprised them. Look at how much Ben panicked. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:09:41 AM #225: |
Gambled with, not gambled in. Silly mobile. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 8:15:05 AM #226: |
Peace___Frog posted... If they don't have a blocker then they really gambled in things here. Hmm what would prevent Hb from being blocked though? I cannot think of a role that does that, unless town also has a roleblocker who blocked the roleblocker but that just seems super unlikely --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:15:20 AM #227: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Another thing to consider night 1 was that scum kill and an extra kill or is there 3rd party floating around?I think scum have a jack of their own similar to corrik's, with one single use strongman shot that they decided to use as a plain extra kill on n1, since the doc was lynched --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 8:23:59 AM #228: |
Peace___Frog posted... I think scum have a jack of their own similar to corrik's, with one single use strongman shot that they decided to use as a plain extra kill on n1, since the doc was lynched Okay yeah think that sounds very likely --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 8:35:55 AM #229: |
[7] SBell - (IGCD), (Red), (Poppy), BCT, Poppy, Chang, Han, Peaf, Ctes, Hb Smart of scum to split evenly on the day 1 votes. Great way to blend in. So for all my theorizing earlier, it was 100% town who screwed over sbell. Chang, Han, me, ctes, and hb pushed him over ctes at the end while scum was having a giggle --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 9:00:12 AM #230: |
PoppyTheNinja posted... lopen town, ben town. squinting at the vote from IGCD. #38 from ctes is a town post we're not misyeeting him this game Lopen and Ben did some good, convincing distancing on page 1 of topic 1. This on page 2, with how linked the three are now, is pretty funny. Let's also consider the following:
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Kirby321 10/17/22 9:10:03 AM #231: |
I keep forgetting Poppy is in this game geez. This is really not a good look for him. I see Lopen putting his vote down already. Scum trying to profit off killing their own, eh? I don't want to end the day early, but there's no way in hell I'm letting Ben's scumbuddies cash in on the Gems here. ##Vote: Ben --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 9:28:56 AM #232: |
Peace___Frog posted... PoppyTheNinja posted...The formatting here got jacked up. Should read as Poppytheninja posted... lopen town, ben town. squinting at the vote from IGCD. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 9:30:55 AM #233: |
Listen I think if this us our elaborate master plan we don't have Ben claim watcher with that junk Like even ignoring the issues with watcher + Bus interactions (which I pointed out btw) he had bad watch targets Red imo was obvious watch target night 1 Hb imo was obvious watcher target last night It's just a bad claim all around. That's why I still haven't ruled out hb as scum. It feels practically scripted to be bad it's so bad. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/17/22 9:34:36 AM #234: |
Looks like it's time for some good ol' PoE Playerlist 1. BCT - ??? With most of his energy spent on Sultan, it's difficult to say where exactly BCT lies on the spectrum. 2. Ben - He was scum? Always has been lol 3. Changmas - Leaning town I remember thinking Chang was acting scummy D1, but he's really come around since then. His posts have been thoughtful and analytical about everyone's actions. He hasn't really been assertive in his reads, but I don't think Chang is usually like that anyway. I recall now that he completely backpedaled from Corrik that one time, but otherwise, his posts seem coherent and consistent. 4. HBtheBattle - Cop But let's lynch him anyway because Lopen said so 5. Kirby - Cult Leader Obviously 6. Lopen - Scum People say conspiracy theorist Lopen is Town Lopen, but I don't recall him lying so much or being this insistent on crazy scenarios/theories. Strikes me more as Scum Lopen trying to fake act like Town Lopen. Was also vehemently defensive of Ben for absolutely no reason and is only now backing off because of the guilty scan, which he initially tried to spin as a scum gambit. 7. PeaceFrog - Towniest Town I don't think much needs to be said here. Has been vocal and analytical, but not in a manipulative way. Peaf is always presenting new arguments and putting forth his reads in a way that makes sense and isn't just picking on minor details. 8. Poppy - Scum? I recall Poppy's spat with Corrik. Did not look good back then, and in retrospect, his initial vote on Sbell looks a lot worse. I gave him a pass on D2, but I'm uneasy about the fact that he's still very silent. 24 hours haven't passed since the start of the day, but there's something concerning about posting only the bare minimum and skating by. 9. Sultan - Town? I don't think Sultan has done much this game. Concerning, but Sultan gave me a strong impression of being town on D1. He hasn't done anything particularly scummy since then; he's just made some posts that are little "are you really thinking about this bro" but I'm not too worried about Sultan yet. 10. ViolentAbacus - Town? More active than Poppy for sure. Godfather is a perfectly valid possibility, but I think I'll give Abacus the benefit of the doubt here regarding Hb's scan. So it comes down to Ben/Lopen/probably Poppy and then I have no clue on the fourth. Argh. In due time, in due time... --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 9:36:03 AM #235: |
Like if you really wanted it to be a scum claim that isn't designed to just job out Ben claims watcher Watches Han n1, no targets Watches hb n2, no targets (or watched Han n2, pick random town to implicate as the killer) And if you think Ben isn't sharing a fakeclaim with his scum board when that's a planned gambit to try and mislynch the cop? Come on. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 10/17/22 9:37:57 AM #236: |
Lopen posted... Listen I think if this us our elaborate master plan we don't have Ben claim watcher with that junk lol you think Ben's team agreed with him fake claiming Neighborizer and using it on Chris of all people in Star Wars Mafia? Ben is a chaotic force of nature. I'm sure y'all had a good fakeclaim set up for him, but he just decided to go with something bold and didn't think it through at all. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 9:43:52 AM #237: |
Also I don't see how anyone reads this game and thinks that I am more likely to be able to lynch a cop. Maybe if I'd successfully lynched scum this game The obvious play if hb is town is to do this Kill hb last night Kill abacus tonight The simplest tactics win this game when scum is up this much if hb is town. It's only if he's not town do more advanced moves need to be used. Cop should not be allowed to live-- cop scanning and exposing Ben is like the least damaging outcome there because Ben as scum makes a lot more sense if ctes and sbell are both town and is probably lynched today with or without a scum scan on him. Further the only way scum finds it plausible to lynch town hb is if I am not scum. Look at the reactions to hb's claim yesterday and you'll find me as the only doubter. Everyone else was like "hyuk uncountered cop yup yup" --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 9:50:58 AM #238: |
I'd like to note this Lopen is giving me vibes if how he acted in King Maker, where he was scum --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 9:59:02 AM #239: |
No I'm not but thank you for generic argument 6 to say "that guy is scummy" --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 10:02:03 AM #240: |
Kingmaker is VERY specific style of play and you can't just fake thinking I'm playing without that. Even Kirby hasn't called to that one when calling me scum. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 10:11:26 AM #241: |
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Lopen 10/17/22 10:12:09 AM #242: |
Tell me how it fits the vibe with more specific parallels --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 10:14:22 AM #243: |
Lopen posted... Listen I think if this us our elaborate master plan we don't have Ben claim watcher with that junkClaim watcher to out more power when he's already dead to rights, and to cause more confusion? Not a bad play imo --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 10/17/22 10:15:34 AM #244: |
Lopen posted... Tell me how it fits the vibe with more specific parallels It's alot of the being very vocal while like being bossy pushing others to see what you see. And almost like intimidating people to vote your way if that makes sense. That is what made me think you were scum in Kingmaker and I was right about that in that game. I mean it could be your play style in general but that is what I am seeing --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 10:17:05 AM #245: |
Lopen posted... Look at the reactions to hb's claim yesterday and you'll find me as the only doubter. Everyone else was like "hyuk uncountered cop yup yup"Bro i was on your side all day. I doubted the fuck out of hb. You thought that you could keep him alive and roleblock him, and I'd join you in the crusade. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 10:17:25 AM #246: |
Yesterday ctes was not my idea he was Han's. If I was doing what you were saying I would have been trying to strong-arm lynching hb all day. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 10/17/22 10:19:02 AM #247: |
Peace___Frog posted... Bro i was on your side all day. I doubted the fuck out of hb. You thought that you could keep him alive and roleblock him, and I'd join you in the crusade. Listen I'm just saying if hb is alive tomorrow and claims scan of scum on literally anyone please thoroughly think about the game before lynching it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 10:19:43 AM #248: |
Poppy doesn't want to say another word because it'll just implicate his team more. I posted a two part thesis on him yesterday from the corrik and red interactions. I'd love for him to claim today just so that he has less time to put together a fake, but since ben is dead to rights i understand that there's not going to be any pressure for him. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 10:21:08 AM #249: |
Lopen posted... Listen I'm just saying if hb is alive tomorrow and claims scan of scum on literally anyone please thoroughly think about the game before lynching it.Of course. The items already shown in game make it likely that scum has a way of messing with scans. Everything will be evaluated tomorrow, nothing will be taken for granted just from hb's word. I only promise. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 10/17/22 10:21:19 AM #250: |
Pinky*** promise --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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