Current Events > Looks like nobody cares about Andor?

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Disney is shitting out content too fast for me to keep up.

Also I'm pretty bored of the period between the PT and OT at this point, unfortunately.

I'm enjoying the show. But I'll be entirely honest, I don't remember him at all from any of the movies. But there have been so many movies I have forgotten many details of them.

Zavala posted...

Snowflake

there's multiple insult to use, but why snowflake?
his opinion is shared by many.
even casual star wars fan weren't interested for the same reason, Andor was not an iconic character like Obi Wan, Boba Fett, etc.
even his droid is much more interesting than him.

Zavala posted...

Snowflake

Lmao seriously?

I am watching it, it isn't bad and I enjoy exploring different parts of the Star Wars universe. I quite liked the first few episodes not being about the Empire, but some corporate asshats, but it didn't take long to be yet another Rebels vs Empire story.
And I just don't give a rat's ass about the main character, I'd rather watch a show about Donnie Yen's character traveling the galaxy.

Trelve posted...

There was no demand for a spin off show about one of the many bland and forgettable characters from Rogue One. I'm surprised it even got green lit.

Creativity from woke sources is at an all time low and only sinking more and more.

It's so fucking bizarre to me that people are like "well I have no reason to care about the main character". It's like seeing Star Wars in theatres in 1977 and being uninterested because Luke Skywalker doesn't tie into the Jaws franchise.

This is probably the most self contained Star Wars story since Mandalorian Season 1 (RIP season 2). It stands completely independently of Rogue One (at least for now). That should be applauded, not viewed as a downside.

if it's supposed to he self contained and doesn't tie into Rogue One, then why it has to be Andor instead of a brand new character?

Ricemills posted...

if it's supposed to he self contained and doesn't tie into Rogue One, then why it has to be Andor instead of a brand new character?

Likely because the director of Rogue One got along with the actor or found the character interesting.

It's not like he's turning to the camera and going "boy I sure am good at stealing plans wink", like Kenobi did. But apparently that's what people want.

The others had far more iconic leads

Irony posted...

I just want Star Wars to die

All of us will die of old age first.

Blightzkrieg posted...

It's so f***ing bizarre to me that people are like "well I have no reason to care about the main character". It's like seeing Star Wars in theatres in 1977 and being uninterested because Luke Skywalker doesn't tie into the Jaws franchise.

This criticism doesn't make sense as the character in question is not a new character. He's already been established before. He's just not that interesting of a character to some. Despite not having seen Mando before his show I instantly wanted to know more about his past and the creed he adheres to. I don't care to learn more about Andor at all.

Blightzkrieg posted...

It's so fucking bizarre to me that people are like "well I have no reason to care about the main character". It's like seeing Star Wars in theatres in 1977 and being uninterested because Luke Skywalker doesn't tie into the Jaws franchise.

Times were different back then. Star Wars was new and exciting, and spread through word of mouth. Now we have an overabundance of quality material to watch. People need a reason to tune in to a new show, and the "Star Wars" label is no longer enough for many people.

I lost interest when some actress in the show said it was about Trump.

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2022/10/andor-first-audience-demand-numbers.html

A spin off of a spin off staring a creepy mofo.

It was to slow that I kind of got bored with it and drop it.

I just started watching it and its surprising to me how adult it is.

not just because the main character murdered two guys outside a brothel in the first episode, but unlike most previous Star Wars content, its clearly made with a primarily adult audience in mind

TheGoldenEel posted...

I just started watching it and its surprising to me how adult it is.

not just because the main character murdered two guys outside a brothel in the first episode, but unlike most previous Star Wars content, its clearly made with a primarily adult audience in mind

I love how they decided "we will focus on the story first and insert action when it's appropriate for the story", rather than having random action scenes because the producers were worried about the audience being bored. Even Rogue One had a lot of sudden, random action scenes during the first two acts that contributed to the feeling that the characters lacked depth.

And I hate how it's now clear that a large portion of Star Wars fans cannot sit through a 40 minute episode without a blaster fight.

"I can't get into stories where I know the person dies later."

Spoiler alert: everyone dies.

I hope Disney isn't smart enough to learn the wrong lesson from this, because the wrong lesson is "people don't want a good and smart Star Wars show, let's just put less effort into future projects".

I don't even think Disney's that stupid. The stupid decision would likely happen would be "We'll be giving everything going forward to Tony Gilroy and micromanaging his output to make sure it's 'perfect'."

I don't.

I didn't see Rogue One, so I don't even know who the fuck Andor is.

Just for the sake of anyone in here looking for perspective, Andor is a skilled production on competitive footing with even highly-rated non-Star Wars shows. It's not just good. It's not just great. It's an actual contender.

A very minimal amount of information is needed to understand the show.

And that information is "Empire = Bad" but honestly the show even does a much more thorough job of showing you that than many other Star Wars media of recent time.

I do think it was a mistake calling it Andor. The show should have been sold as an ensamble piece that's more akin to Game of Thrones than an Obi-Wan or a Mandalorian.

ColonizedMind posted...

I do think it was a mistake calling it Andor. The show should have been sold as an ensamble piece that's more akin to Game of Thrones than an Obi-Wan or a Mandalorian.

It's not an ensemble though, Andor is unquestionably the lead character.

The more general issue is Disney sucks actual ass at naming their Star Wars shows in general, and I don't think Andor is the beginning of that trend. It should be called literally anything else.

Hell, call it KotOR and let people figure out on their own that the main character isn't Revan.

Honestly the story has been stuck between the PT, and OG series since forever and it's getting old. Hell there's still the Asoka series left as well I believe.

And moving forward in the time line obviously with beloved characters like Luke isn't a option either since it all will ultimately amount to nothing.

too much star wars content. Would have been content with Mandalorian as the Star Wars show but there's just too much of it going around.

Plus Rogue One was a terribly boring movie and the idea of watching a spin off featuring one of those characters isn't going to carry a mass market appeal.

Well he's the focus but he didn't have to be, the side characters are the best part of this and stand up on their own, but because they felt the need to shoehorn in a character from something else and make him the main character a lot of people are sleeping on this show, because he has no cache

Prismsblade posted...

Honestly the story has been stuck between the PT, and OG series since forever and it's getting old. Hell there's still the Asoka series left as well I believe.

I believe Ahsoka will be set after Mandalorian, as a part of the so called "Mandoverse".

CyricZ posted...

"I can't get into stories where I know the person dies later."

Spoiler alert: everyone dies.

I am an immortal being.

Hornswoggled posted...

I don't.

I didn't see Rogue One, so I don't even know who the fuck Andor is.

I saw it and I still don't remember who he is.

Im just exhausted of the skywalker era at this point.

theres supposed to be thousands and thousands of years of the Force history and the Jedi/Sith conflict. Yet Disney is still fixated on this era.

i havent watched an episode - Ill watch it now that the series has wrapped up.

and BTW I had many issues with Kenobi as well. It was by no means close to perfect or flawless.

Rise of Skywalker poisoned the well. Star Wars needs to go on break for at least 5 years to build up excitment for the next movie.

Disney is trying to make SW into the next MCU, which is a huge mistake.

who gives a shit about Andor? we already know his fate.

chrono625 posted...

Ill watch it now that the series has wrapped up.

What Andor? It's been seven of twelve episodes so far of this season.

CyricZ posted...

What Andor? It's been seven of twelve episodes so far of this season.

guess I got 5 more weeks then.

There is a confirmed second season as well.

Andor lends itself to binging though I think. It would have been nice if they released the episodes in chunks (like an arc every 2-3 weeks) rather than 1 episode a week.

Personally I prefer the time to digest each episode but to each their own.

Smashingpmkns posted...

It looks good. But there's so many other shows on right now and I'm about Star Wars'd and Marvel'd out.

This. I pretty much had to force myself to sit through Boba Fett, Obi-Wan and Andor. Not really enjoying any of them

If you won't listen to me, perhaps you would listen to Sydney Morning Herald's Craig Mathieson?

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/andor-is-a-revelation-and-easily-one-of-the-best-shows-of-the-year-20221020-p5brga.html

Theres a clear winner in the Rings of Power versus House of the Dragon showdown. Its Andor. The new Star Wars series is a revelation, parsecs ahead of the latest offerings from the duelling Lords of the Rings and Game of Thrones franchises. All three shows, which have had overlapping weekly schedules that emphasised their contradictions, are prequels to blockbuster works, yet only Andor has found freedom in its parameters. At this point I dont watch its episodes, I savour them.

CyricZ posted...

If you won't listen to me, perhaps you would listen to Sydney Morning Herald's Craig Mathieson?

No thank you.

Yeah, Andor has been pretty great so far. But it's not a crowd-pleaser, and there's no point in lamenting its relatively-low ratings, because these types of departures rarely ever get mass appeal - there's no lightsabers or Baby Yodas to hook in the more casual crowd, and the show already has a noteworthy entry hurdle with the whole 'why should I care about this character anyway' angle (I too had no interest in giving the show a chance until my brother suggested it).

Thankfully it looks like Disney has faith enough in this to push it through, since S2 has already been confirmed. I'd expect that kind of executive faith in the MCU, but after the overcorrecting mess that was Rise of Skywalker, it's definitely surprising to see it in the Disney Star Wars-verse.

masterpug53 posted...

the show already has a noteworthy entry hurdle with the whole 'why should I care about this character anyway' angle

It's sad as hell that giving a Star Wars show a chance relies on "who from the OT is in it".

Makes you wonder how many people sat for TFA entirely because they saw Han Solo in the trailer.

Not that those behind Star Wars didn't paint themselves into this corner.

Watching the first episode of Tales Of The Jedi and it's honestly what I wanted Andor to be and what it has finally turned into for me.
These shows should explore the SW's universe's cultures and if they're dead set on having it feature the Empire yet again, they should show the inner workings of the Empire and how citizens view/live under the Empire on non backwater planets. The past few episodes of Andor and the very first episode of Tales Of The Jedi have done just that and I'm starting to as excited as I was for the second season of Mando.