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pinky0926
11/02/22 3:55:27 PM
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Americans, are you mental?

Like are you actually mental. Who came up with this uncle sam nonsense

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ellis123
11/02/22 3:58:00 PM
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Great Britain.

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Letron_James
11/02/22 3:58:27 PM
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It's a dumb measuring system and it's apparent if you've ever done any home design work. I've thought about switching to metric so many times but it will almost always end up in having to explain shit more

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 4:00:33 PM
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what, i don't get it.
are those two numbers supposed to be the same?

why would you ever measure anything in 8ths?

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solosnake
11/02/22 4:00:38 PM
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what about 5/16ths?

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rexcrk
11/02/22 4:02:41 PM
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Whats the problem?


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pinky0926
11/02/22 4:07:44 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
what, i don't get it.
are those two numbers supposed to be the same?

why would you ever measure anything in 8ths?

They're not quite the same but when AMERICANS are describing something that's about half a centimetre big they say this tomfoolery

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HudGard
11/02/22 4:08:10 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
why would you ever measure anything in 8ths?
movie/tv scripts are measured in 8ths

financial percentages are often pegged at the 8ths
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Trumble
11/02/22 4:09:49 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
what, i don't get it.
are those two numbers supposed to be the same?

why would you ever measure anything in 8ths?
There are a lot of cases where it's useful to divide something into 8 - although 6 or 12 tend to be even better for many such cases.

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Oubliettes
11/02/22 4:10:17 PM
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who doesnt have eighths memorized in decimal format, or at least a chart in their workspace?

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Suolevram
11/02/22 4:12:45 PM
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Only one 8th I'm tryna fuck with

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ZeldaMutant
11/02/22 4:13:49 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
They're not quite the same but when AMERICANS are describing something that's about half a centimetre big they say this tomfoolery
Half a centimetre is an 8th inch plus a 16th inch plus a 128th inch, plus the same repeating with each number multiplied by 128 with each repeat.

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Mizznox
11/02/22 4:40:59 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
why would you ever measure anything in 8ths?

When something is very small and/or precision matters?

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Naysaspace
11/02/22 4:43:18 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Americans, are you mental?

Like are you actually mental. Who came up with this uncle sam nonsense
You sound like someone who could be sold a left handed hammer.

The imperial system is very good for mental calculation of measurments using base2 ratios. "Uh yeah 14 millimetre or 20 millimetre, gimme a 7 millimetre bit". Mm does not work well for this. Theres a reason construction in canada is done in imperial still.
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Gremlynn
11/02/22 4:44:01 PM
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Mizznox posted...
When something is very small and/or precision matters?

"and you really want to fuck it up."

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KhlavicLanguage
11/02/22 4:44:44 PM
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do people outside america really just sit around and get angry about america

i notice this a lot with aussies. i'm pretty sure i've gone months without thinking about australia.
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toreysback
11/02/22 4:44:45 PM
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6/8 time

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ellis123
11/02/22 4:49:05 PM
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Gremlynn posted...
"and you really want to fuck it up."
That's a pretty fancy way to say that you hate all music.

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NeonOctopuses
11/02/22 4:53:44 PM
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This is why America won 250 years ago. We can comprehend factions and weird conversions while the Brits are still bumbling around with their baby metric system of whole numbers and everything being neatly 100

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 4:56:39 PM
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Mizznox posted...
When something is very small and/or precision matters?

oh, you mean when you should measure in millimeters
hell, when it really matters, i sometimes measure in micrometers

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/02/22 4:59:57 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Americans, are you mental?

Like are you actually mental. Who came up with this uncle sam nonsense
Somebody didn't learn their fractions when they were little.

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 5:00:00 PM
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NeonOctopuses posted...
This is why America won 250 years ago. We can comprehend factions and weird conversions while the Brits are still bumbling around with their baby metric system of whole numbers and everything being neatly 100

you do know that the meter was made by the French, right?
during/after the French Revolution

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/02/22 5:04:38 PM
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For all the love you give the metric system.

I generally hear only about the Meter/Centi-Meter/Milli-Meter.

You guys always exclude the Deci-Meter from being used in your daily measurements, why is that?

Same with the Deca-Meter & Hecto-Meter.

Kilo-Meter gets all the love, but Deca-Meters & Hecto-Meters are largely ignored?

Why don't you guys use those units more often?

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 5:10:41 PM
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Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
You guys always exclude the Deci-Meter from being used in your daily measurements, why is that?

cause it's completely pointless to say "this is 1.2 decimeters long" when you can just say "this is 12 centimeters long"
if you wanna go really accurate you can also go "this is 120 millimeters long"
only times i see deci is deciliters for liquids

same with Deca and Hecto, it's a complete waste of effort and time to say "this field is 1 hectameter, 2 decameters and 5 meters"
when you can just say "this field is 125 meters"

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silverpine
11/02/22 5:11:56 PM
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imperial sounds so much more badass and chadly than neetric
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NeonOctopuses
11/02/22 5:11:58 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
you do know that the meter was made by the French, right?
during/after the French Revolution
Doesnt matter. We still won! U-S-A! U-S-A!

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DrizztLink
11/02/22 5:12:06 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
same with Deca and Hecto, it's a complete waste of effort and time to say "this field is 1 hectameter, 2 decameters and 5 meters"
when you can just say "this field is 125 meters"
I think hecto gets used for acreage measurements, but I'm not sure if a hectare is actually metric.

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 5:15:16 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I think hecto gets used for acreage measurements
right, yeah, land measurements doesn't really come up for me that often

but I'm not sure if a hectare is actually metric.
the googles says of hectare "hectare, unit of area in the metric system equal to 100 ares, or 10,000 square metres"

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 5:18:20 PM
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but seriously though, why measure in 8ths rather than the much simpler 10s?

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ZMythos
11/02/22 5:22:46 PM
#30:


ROBANN_88 posted...
but seriously though, why measure in 8ths rather than the much simpler 10s?
Divisibility. If you want a build to have nice proportionality, then you want numbers that have nice multiples and/or many factors


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thronedfire2
11/02/22 5:23:17 PM
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ZMythos posted...
Divisibility. If you want a build to have nice proportionality, then you want numbers that have nice multiples and/or many factors

you mean like...10?

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ZMythos
11/02/22 5:25:13 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
you mean like...10?
10 has 4 factors: 1, 2, 5, and 10

12 has 6 factors: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12

16 has 5 factors: 1, 2, 4, 8, and 16

more factors = more proportionality

10 isn't a magical number, it's just how many fingers we have. There are other considerations as to why other bases are useful in measurement.

We could have done 10 months of roughly 36 days each, but we chose 12 months of roughly 30 days each because 12 months evenly divides 4 seasons of 3 months.

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 5:32:09 PM
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ZMythos posted...
We could have done 10 months of roughly 36 days each, but we chose 12 months of roughly 30 days each because 12 months evenly divides 4 seasons of 3 months.

people did do 10 months for a good while until one of Caesars made up two more ones and named them after himself and his sugar daddy, and fucked up the naming system so October is no longer the 8th month
but to be fair to him, that system was kinda shit, partly cause they just ignored days for reasons i don't understand fully

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ZMythos
11/02/22 5:35:58 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
we did do 10 months for a good while until one of Caesars made up two more ones and named them after himself and his sugar daddy, and fucked up the naming system so October is no longer the 8th month
but to be fair to him, that system was kinda shit, partly cause they just ignored days for reasons i don't understand fully
True, and that's a testament to measurements being arbitrary and adapting to what's most useful/common to us.

Metric is great, don't get me wrong. It's the standard even in the US. But, there are circumstances where other systems of measurement may offer advantages, so it's not a bad thing that they're still in use today.

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 5:46:56 PM
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so why is it that when i have to convert meters to feet it comes up as decimals?

this only ever comes up during DnD cause that's the only thing i'm forced to use it with.
so i had to write down the height of my new character. he's a halfling small boy. only 89 centimeters.

google "centimeter to feet", put in the number. it comes up as 2.91 feet
i put it in another converter that comes up with 2'11''

these things should not be separate numbers
that's my main gripe with Imperial at the moment

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Gwynevere
11/02/22 6:02:15 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
what, i don't get it.
are those two numbers supposed to be the same?

why would you ever measure anything in 8ths?
Most construction/engineering in the states is done in 8ths or 16ths. A tape measure will typically be split into 1/16 increments. Bolts are called out by sizes such as 3/16, 5/8, etc. It's a good way to get pretty precise decimal measurements without having to say "I need a 0.1875" bolt". I'm not really sure what the history is behind 1/16 being the increment, but I would imagine that's probably just the smallest increment easily perceptible to human eyes.

That said, metric is objectively more precise and accurate when going to very small measurements (such as the micron or nano scale) which is why it's always used in anything science related

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Aridi
11/02/22 6:04:30 PM
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Hey Barry, what's a gill?

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Ratchetrockon
11/02/22 6:06:00 PM
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You just get used to it

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Paragon21XX
11/02/22 6:11:56 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
people did do 10 months for a good while until one of Caesars made up two more ones and named them after himself and his sugar daddy, and fucked up the naming system so October is no longer the 8th month
but to be fair to him, that system was kinda shit, partly cause they just ignored days for reasons i don't understand fully
The first part of your post is demonstrably false. Rome had 2 non-months during the winter because the time from season to season was obviously more than 304 days, but the year still had to begin with spring, so there were roughly 60 days not counted as part of the annual calendar but still were counted regardless.

Neither Julius nor Augustus added the two months during winter as the 2 missing months (January and February) were added to the end of the calendar around 700 BC long before Julius or Augustus were ever born, and the months were later moved to the beginning of the calendar around 450 BC. All Rome ever did was rename Quintilis and Sextilis in honor of their beloved Caesars.

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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 6:16:14 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
The first part of your post is demonstrably false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar#Legendary_10_month_calendar

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Paragon21XX
11/02/22 6:17:16 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar#Legendary_10_month_calendar
You can't even read my post?

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Foppe
11/02/22 6:19:17 PM
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It is so much easier with bolts in mm.
  • 10 mm 3/8
  • 11 mm 7/16
  • 12 mm 15/32
  • 13 mm 1/2
  • 14 mm 9/16
  • 15 mm 19/32
  • 17 mm 21/32
  • 19 mm 3/4
  • 22 mm 7/8
  • 24 mm 15/16



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ROBANN_88
11/02/22 6:20:14 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
You can't even read my post?

i interpreted the "the first part" to be the part that was first
i.e. the "10 months" part

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bo_danvers
11/02/22 6:53:26 PM
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rexcrk posted...
Whats the problem?

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/02/22 7:54:24 PM
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Think of it this way. The US Customary Units system gives the Metric folks plenty of experience to convert into another system.

By the time we meet Aliens, I doubt they'll be using any of our systems of measurement and when we need to convert from Metric to a foreign system, it'll be easy for Metric to do so since they're used to converting to US Customary.

Hypothetically, if we met a Vulcan like Aliens from Star Trek, do you really think they'll be using any system like we have on Earth? Doubtful!

So we have to learn to convert from Metric to another system.

Doesn't matter if it's US Customary Units or any alien units that they may natively have.

In the future, Metric will be the glue that binds humanity with Aliens in terms of measurement units.

It'll be that nice intermediary that we convert to or from.

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Robot2600
11/02/22 8:07:04 PM
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even thought we have 5/10 fingers, you would count in base-6 on a single hand. this is why many ancient cultures used a base-6 system.

fist = 0
1 finger = 1
''2
''3
''4
5 fingers = 5

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Robot2600
11/02/22 8:08:17 PM
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then 6 is 1 finger on your other hand, 12 is 2, 18, 24, 30,

and 35 is all fingers.

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Gremlynn
11/02/22 8:15:30 PM
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I just realized the topic title is a micropenis confession.

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