Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 397: Rishi Rich

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The hypothetical scenario where Cheney remained in Texas would have probably caused a constitutional crisis lol.

If Texas's electors vote for Bush than no VP gets to 270 and it goes to the Senate for a vote. A vote where the Senate is tied 50-50 and the VP is precluded from breaking the tie. I guess Lieberman could recuse and allow Cheney to win.

I guess Texas could have voted for Cheney as VP and tossed the Presidential vote to the House and I don't feel like doing a state delegation count right now.

Jakyl25 posted...

Hes eligible no matter where he lives, if he stayed in Texas it would just mean that Texas couldnt vote for him for VP. All the other states could.

Given how close 2000 was that might actually be an issue though; I havent checked

We will see this pop up again if theres a Trump/DeSantis ticket

Yes, given that Bush/Cheney ended up with 271 Texas absolutely mattered.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Trump hates him, so probably not gonna happen!

He literally wanted his last VP hung

Jakyl25 posted...

He literally wanted his last VP hung

He didn't hate him at the start (I think), only after Pence 'betrayed' him. The hatred for Desantis is built-in.

He did hate him at the start, he wanted Newt Gingrich IIRC but he deferred to the party

Jakyl25 posted...

he wanted Newt Gingrich

Well I guess we don't live in the worst possible timeline if we managed to dodge that

Jakyl25 posted...

He did hate him at the start, he wanted Newt Gingrich IIRC but he deferred to the party

That's different from hating him. More realistically he probably didn't even know who he was before VP searching. Also he ultimately deferred to his kids on this, not the party.

VintageGin posted...

Well I guess we don't live in the worst possible timeline if we managed to dodge that

I've always maintained Gingrich was a poison pill.

https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589796702843998208

Hard pass

LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1589796702843998208

Hard pass

Something good for the mental health of America? In

The problem of course being that it would probably just crater twitter and twitter 2 would scoop up the pieces

I only 'browse' twitter by clicking links posted here or otherwise sent to me, so seeing it go away wouldn't even be sad

The really dumb thing about them about paywalling it is that the value of the product scales with the number of people using it. So maybe initially 25% of Twitter users are willing to pay. But then all of the sudden 75% of the people they follow are gone, and it's no longer worth it for many of them... rinse and repeat.

He's unlikely to actually do that. It's a terrible business strategy and will reduce his influence on the world (what's the point of free speech if no one will read it).

HeroicCrono posted...

He's unlikely to actually do that. It's a terrible business strategy and will reduce his influence on the world (what's the point of free speech if no one will read it).

Purchasing Twitter was a terrible business strategy

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Purchasing Twitter was a terrible business strategy

1000%

Musk was riding the tech bubble and threw out an offer he didnt think they would accept

Then the stock cratered and they jumped all over it

Anyone else have Republican relatives not voting for the first time ever?

Az Republicans have been attacking (verbally) election fraud pretty hard, especially with the early vote and mail in ballots. Which is stupid considering its one of the best things about AZ because its stupidly easy to vote and its super popular among both lines.

My parents super Republicans turned Trumpers had their ballots still sitting on the counter and I asked if they planned on voting, and they said probably not. Just a little anecdote that I hope means good things for AZ tonight.

Sorozone posted...

Anyone else have Republican relatives not voting for the first time ever?

Az Republicans have been attacking (verbally) election fraud pretty hard, especially with the early vote and mail in ballots. Which is stupid considering its one of the best things about AZ because its stupidly easy to vote and its super popular among both lines.

My parents super Republicans turned Trumpers had their ballots still sitting on the counter and I asked if they planned on voting, and they said probably not. Just a little anecdote that I hope means good things for AZ tonight.

There have been articles about how cries of voter fraud lower voter turn out.

Turnout is going to be the difference as polls are pretty tight. Will young people finally turn out? (probably not) will women be invigorated to vote (maybe) will republicans show up without trump on the ballot (???)

I'm kind of thankful that I'll be prevented from doomscrolling all evening as I'll be in my ceramics class.

Still pretty weird how the Republicans handled Arizona going blue, something that had obviously been coming for years. Should we moderate? No well get even more extreme, also well attack our own supporters faith in the democratic system. Thatll get them to vote for us. Very strange.

LightningStrikes posted...

Still pretty weird how the Republicans handled Arizona going blue, something that had obviously been coming for years. Should we moderate? No well get even more extreme, also well attack our own supporters faith in the democratic system. Thatll get them to vote for us. Very strange.

Not really, when minorities start losing their grip they try to use force to retain power.

Human reaction for millennia

It will be very interesting to see how they react if by some miracle they do lose this to low turnout.

On a national level, the GOP is finding a lot of success moving to the right. Losing strength in Arizona is worth it for the gains in other states. Meanwhile, the state leadership in AZ has never had to moderate their views before and won't think to do so while the national trends are the opposite.

LightningStrikes posted...

Still pretty weird how the Republicans handled Arizona going blue, something that had obviously been coming for years. Should we moderate? No well get even more extreme, also well attack our own supporters faith in the democratic system. Thatll get them to vote for us. Very strange.

That's not weird at all. Republicans have always had the strategy of 'Move further to the right, but consider yourself a moderate' in order to shift the overton window.

Turnout is massively down here from normal elections. The ballot system has changed to paper ballots and without the ability to vote straight party line. I could see others votes if I wanted to. Also, my house rep ran unopposed, which is weird to me, because I think he only won by like 37 votes last time he was on the ballot.

Got back from voting. Regret not voting absentee. Our new polling place was totally disorganized, and the people in line were saying things that made me lose all hope for our country.

2024 is a very good Senate map for Republicans. However, it was in 2018 too and they didn't gain much. 2024 could be much like 2012 when Democrats won huge with that map. So it should be a priority for Republicans to gain Senate seats today so that they'll be able to block Biden from appointing judges during his second term.

After a record early voting season, actual voting day turnout in GA seems to be way down.

In a normal year that'd be a good sign, but who knows.

Maybe the Rs listened to their orange imbecile and didnt vote because its all rigged. Would be awesome if R voter turnout was 50% lower than normal. It would be Trumps only real positive contribution probably lol

I mean all it honestly needs is like 2 or 3% and they're screwed.

My polling place was pretty dead, I walked straight in with no line.

My polling place (in VA-7 in a very red district) was pretty average for turnout, though I went at lunch time. Usually I hit slightly earlier, so maybe this is down from normal.

I usually go early enough that there's no line but was a bit later than usual today and had to wait a few minutes; from comments overheard in line things seemed to be busier than usual. The number of provisional ballots being cast was also up; the workers commented that they only had 12 in the previous election, but I was the 8th and it wasn't quite 10AM when I was there (had to take a provisional because my wallet disappeared somewhere in my house so I didn't have my ID on hand).

This is OH-1, for context, specifically my city is South Lebanon. Our state senator was outside offering Republican slate sheets when I went in but appeared to have moved on by the time I was done.

Mine is at a church.is that actually legal?

swordz9 posted...

Mine is at a church.is that actually legal?

Churches are pretty common polling places, yeah

I mean it's not like they're HAVING church at the same time, lol.

They arent, but with an abortion vote up it feels extra uhh

I get that gut feeling but I promise you nobody is casting their vote intending to vote D and then changing it last minute because a Jesus statue is looking at them.

I voted early last week. There were a few people doing so, which was nice. We have some local ballot questions that are really important so I imagine our town turnout will be pretty good.

swordz9 posted...

They arent, but with an abortion vote up it feels extra uhh

I mean where would you have it instead

Not a lot of large indoor areas that are close by and willing to be open to the public because it isnt being used during work hours on a Tuesday

UshiromiyaEva posted...

After a record early voting season, actual voting day turnout in GA seems to be way down.

In a normal year that'd be a good sign, but who knows.

It's a good sign for the enthusiasm gap.

masterplum posted...

I mean where would you have it instead

Not a lot of large indoor areas that are close by and willing to be open to the public because it isnt being used during work hours on a Tuesday

It used to be held at the local fire hall for me.

Esuriat posted...

My polling place (in VA-7 in a very red district) was pretty average for turnout, though I went at lunch time. Usually I hit slightly earlier, so maybe this is down from normal.

Isn't VA-7 Spanberger's district? I thought that leaned blue?

ElizeLutus posted...

Isn't VA-7 Spanberger's district? I thought that leaned blue?

VA-7 leans blue yeah. I meant to say I'm specifically in a very red precinct within VA-7.

Esuriat posted...

VA-7 leans blue yeah. I meant to say I'm specifically in a very red precinct within VA-7.

Ahh yeah, i live in a very red precinct in VA. The line here wasn't too long, but we only had Republican Volunteers outside our voting location. Which they changed, and now is just unprepared to handle it. If I stay in VA, I'm definitely voting absentee next year as long as Youngkin doesn't change the law back to prevent it.

Yeah, there was a county Republicans table bordering one of the sidewalks into the voting area (an elementary school) here. They were making a bunch of noise cheering as some people spoke to them coming out from voting. Probably just telling them that they voted for Vega. Kind of obnoxious.

You should definitely be fine voting absentee next year. I don't believe Youngkin can unilaterally change the mail in provisions since the Democrats still control the senate. But of course that election might change that. I'm hoping not.

Yeah, he probably can't. But some dems may go along with it. Our dems kind of suck sometimes. But I might not be in VA next year anyway because my husband is looking for a new job, and can't find one in our area that offers the hours he needs to work so we don't have to spend a lot on childcare.

The people behind me in line were obnoxious, talking about how awful Fauci was, and how 'fake' the attack on Paul Pelosi was.They continued talking past the point where you're not supposed to be campaigning, but the volunteers did nothing except say "Well we aren't supposed to talk about that" in a tone that suggested he agreed with them.

Question for Americans: given the doom over Florida, which happens first?

Democrats retake at least one of Ohio/Iowa or Democrats retake Florida?

LightningStrikes posted...

Question for Americans: given the doom over Florida, which happens first?

Democrats retake at least one of Ohio/Iowa or Democrats retake Florida?

Brown currently holds a Senate seat in Ohio so it's kinda Ohio by default.

Florida is theoretically the closer state in a presidential election but it's Florida. Maybe if you replaced the Florida State Dem Party, which might be the most incompetent in the nation.

LightningStrikes posted...

Question for Americans: given the doom over Florida, which happens first?

Democrats retake at least one of Ohio/Iowa or Democrats retake Florida?

Ohio

I think retirees coming to Florida isnt stopping

If Rs actually get rid of SS than FL will flip.

LightningStrikes posted...

Question for Americans: given the doom over Florida, which happens first?

Democrats retake at least one of Ohio/Iowa or Democrats retake Florida?

I would bet good money on Iowa of these 3.