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cjsdowg 12/02/22 3:53:35 PM #1: |
I was going to say for a kids show, but no in general this is a good conversation. It doesn't seems that shows of today really match this, level of discourse. https://twitter.com/toonsgowild/status/1568278886370385922 --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 12/02/22 4:02:42 PM #2: |
I like the one where Wonder Woman gets turned into a pig --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 12/02/22 4:04:00 PM #3: |
Calling the Justice League cartoon old just makes me feel old. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/02/22 4:05:49 PM #4: |
That series had so many episodes that kind of hit you in the feels --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChocoboMogALT 12/02/22 4:05:59 PM #5: |
I wish it was still on Netflix... --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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action52 12/02/22 4:06:34 PM #6: |
Ivynn posted... Calling the Justice League cartoon old just makes me feel old.Oh my God yes, when I read "old Justice League Cartoon" I immediately thought of this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/3/AAAJePAAD8ep.jpg --- And who are you, my little friend? Not a spoon... not a fork... but something in between. A fpoon. What will you think of next, Germany? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 12/02/22 4:10:31 PM #7: |
Wow that is pretty deep discussion for a children's show, cool to see --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rideshort 12/02/22 4:21:39 PM #8: |
When you have people Dwayne McDuffie writing your eps, I'm not surprised in the least. RIP. --- I believe in the Golden Rule and you should too! http://i.imgur.com/63HCN.gif http://i.imgur.com/aaTUdOx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 12/02/22 4:28:05 PM #9: |
JL and JLU is among the best superhero media that's ever been made. Change my mind. --- In simplicity, utility. Through utility, simplicity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 12/02/22 4:32:39 PM #10: |
so did teen titans like when the african american member of the team could relate to starfire being discriminated against because he was........half robot --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 12/02/22 4:38:12 PM #11: |
yusiko posted... so did teen titans Beyond that the whole thing pissed me off. Because they kept helping the guy. The guy is clearly not a good person, and it based on his word alone that they were fighting these beings. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 12/02/22 4:40:13 PM #12: |
Honestly, this kind of discussions is the kind of stuff I was expecting for the DCEU to go into. I'm glad that I can rely on the old justice league show for cool moments like this. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 12/02/22 4:40:18 PM #13: |
action52 posted... Oh my God yes, when I read "old Justice League Cartoon" I immediately thought of this: Ditto --- There's enough attention whores on CE already ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zanzenburger 12/02/22 5:39:22 PM #14: |
Young Justice also did this kind of stuff. It was cool to see the different perspectives from the adult heroes and the young heroes. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 12/02/22 5:46:03 PM #16: |
This should be the bar, it shouldn't be surprising that stories for children or a general audience have something to say rather than being a cacophony of images and sounds for no purpose --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/02/22 5:49:21 PM #17: |
yusiko posted... so did teen titansThat was a pretty intentional bait-and-switch to keep the message on the same level without making it too hamfisted. Like, TT was always great at layering things for kids and then for teens/adults. cjsdowg posted... Beyond that the whole thing pissed me off. Because they kept helping the guy. The guy is clearly not a good person, and it based on his word alone that they were fighting these beings.I blame Robin. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fony 12/02/22 5:58:08 PM #19: |
cjsdowg posted... Beyond that the whole thing pissed me off. Because they kept helping the guy. The guy is clearly not a good person, and it based on his word alone that they were fighting these beings.sounds just like real life. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 12/02/22 6:07:18 PM #20: |
MC_BatCommander posted... Wow that is pretty deep discussion for a children's show, cool to seeIt's good for kids and teens to see heros having an adult debate that gets heated, but not over the line. --- I'm a man, and I'm a man... I do what I hate and don't understand... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 12/02/22 6:11:24 PM #21: |
The Justice Guild episode still hits me hard. --- currently waiting for my turn in Master Duel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crimson_Corsair 12/02/22 6:12:35 PM #22: |
Is nobody going to ask how tf Aquaman is flying in that picture? --- My head's not torn off, my sunglasses aren't broken. Amen, hallelujah, peanut butter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 12/02/22 6:16:21 PM #23: |
He can actually fly in some of the versions --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xatrion 12/02/22 6:16:42 PM #24: |
Crimson_Corsair posted... Is nobody going to ask how tf Aquaman is flying in that picture? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/3/7/AAQLgMAAD8f9.jpg --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 12/02/22 6:19:45 PM #25: |
Irony posted... He can actually fly in some of the versionsFrom Wikipedia, he has the ability to have: Divine empowerment Weather manipulation and electricity manipulation via trident I think you can fly, if you can manipulate weather, lol. Or, maybe the power of God's can help, too I guess lol --- I'm a man, and I'm a man... I do what I hate and don't understand... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 12/02/22 6:36:41 PM #26: |
Irony posted... That series had so many episodes that kind of hit you in the feels Agreed, and at the time season two was the standout but in rewatching there are so many in season one as well - GL meeting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheoryzC 12/02/22 6:38:23 PM #27: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yea people threw out Timm and Dini as people that should lead the DCEU before but I always said that McDuffie was someone who I think could have made great contributions to it --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 12/02/22 6:41:20 PM #28: |
cjsdowg posted... I was going to say for a kids show, but no in general this is a good conversation. It doesn't seems that shows of today really match this, level of discourse. I'm going to catch some flak, but this scene (and story arc) addressed the question of "who watches the watchers" much better than Captain America Civil War (the movie) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 12/02/22 6:49:35 PM #29: |
The one scene did a better job articulating the whole Injustice angle than Injustice itself honestly. Also I genuinely appreciated the Justice League's bold plots that deviated away from typical "punch bad guy until defeated" formula towards more mature problem solving solutions even if some weren't really interesting. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_MorningStar 12/02/22 6:59:40 PM #30: |
I still have both series and the animated Avengers series on a drive in my room. I love me some MCU, and a lot of the DCEU, but the medium will always be better when it is a cartoon. They can just do so much more. The wonderful thing about JL is that a lot of the episodes are one offs....kind of. Everything still always leads to the same destination. They just show it through different lenses because the cast is so freaking large. But every character feels like they have a place. And some of the moment like this are just gut punching. It feels real. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/02/22 7:03:25 PM #31: |
EyeWontBeFooled posted... From Wikipedia, he has the ability to have:okay now explain how Hal Jordan is flying without any constructs --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/02/22 7:28:40 PM #32: |
Tyranthraxus posted... okay now explain how Hal Jordan is flying without any constructsHe always flies like that, the animators just didn't want to bother with the green aura that usually shows up. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 12/02/22 7:45:05 PM #33: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I used to not care about Superman and thought he was boring, since he was invulnerable and could do anything. The episode when Darkseid came to Earth and Superman gave his "world of cardboard" speech completely flipped my view of him. Just a few lines were enough. Similar as in the Marvel comics, I used to dislike Quicksilver. Then in an issue of X-Factor, the team went to a shrink. He says that his daily life is like being stuck in line behind somebody who can't use an ATM. Totally new perspective that suddenly makes his attitude understandable. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 12/02/22 7:46:25 PM #34: |
action52 posted... Oh my God yes, when I read "old Justice League Cartoon" I immediately thought of this:The final scene of the show replicating this was pure cool --- A worthless existence ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 12/02/22 8:45:34 PM #35: |
My problem with these conversations in superhero media is that the line they draw always seems super arbitrary. Every saturday morning these characters have no problem taking it upon themselves to beat the shit out of villains without any involvement from the authorities. They *already* operate outside the law. (With the sole exception of Adam West's Batman, who was officially deputized by the Gotham PD lol) But then they'll randomly get into these stories where it's like "but what if superheroes bad?" and suddenly everyone becomes philosophers with morals they didnt have last week. Funniest thing is that recently in the comics Superman had a story where he's like "Fuck it. I'm going straight to War World to free all the slaves and stomp Mogul into submission" So when it's an alien government committing war crimes, everything's kosher. But when it's an earth government committing war crimes, it's "but what about the ethics of superheroism" >_> (Also, the Superman Warworld saga was actually really fucking good and if you have the ability to check it out I recommend it) --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 12/02/22 8:59:43 PM #36: |
Kim_Seong-a posted... So when it's an alien government committing war crimes, everything's kosher. But when it's an earth government committing war crimes, it's "but what about the ethics of superheroism" >_> I mean hypocrisy's not at all a foreign topic in these Superman stories or any comic book plot for that matter. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 12/02/22 9:01:33 PM #37: |
Jagr_68 posted... I mean hypocrisy's not at all a foreign topic in these Superman stories or any comic book plot for that matter. It's not, which is why I rarely can take any of these stories seriously. Mainstream superheroes are just fundamentally unequipped to deconstruct their tropes with any degree of honesty. --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 12/02/22 9:03:48 PM #38: |
Kim_Seong-a posted... My problem with these conversations in superhero media is that the line they draw always seems super arbitrary.The writing of Superman stories has been pretty good for a few years. --- I'm a man, and I'm a man... I do what I hate and don't understand... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ikzai 12/02/22 9:08:02 PM #39: |
I like how thoughtful the entire scene was. It almost reminded me of a Star Trek episode where they would be discussing ethics but that in a kids show. That's pretty great! --- Poke! Can you dig it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 12/02/22 9:30:31 PM #40: |
And yet to Snyder, these are just "Saturday morning cartoons" that he tried to avoid when doing the DCEU. --- 11/8/2022 - The day the Blue Wall intercepted the Red Wave. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 12/02/22 9:34:30 PM #41: |
Solar_Crimson posted... And yet to Snyder, these are just "Saturday morning cartoons" that he tried to avoid when doing the DCEU. Snyder wasn't allowed to do what he wanted so that's moot. He wanted MoS, Batman, MoS 2, and THEN BvS. Could it have ended up being shit anyway? Yeah probably but the people who ruined it were executives trying to play catch up to marvel, not directors & producers. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 12/03/22 8:53:46 AM #42: |
Kim_Seong-a posted...
But that is part of the argument that they are having. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 12/03/22 9:02:15 AM #43: |
I knew it was going to be Green Arrow. He was great in that cartoon. I love the unapologetic pointing out of how fucked up the Justice League are but it's okay because "They're good guys." Obviously it's a cartoon but yeah, that's terrifying. I think Watchmen was an influence there. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 12/03/22 9:04:39 AM #44: |
action52 posted... Oh my God yes, when I read "old Justice League Cartoon" I immediately thought of this:same lol --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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