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AceMos
12/04/22 10:02:27 AM
#102:


Jx1010 posted...
How is the government persecuting them?
passing laws that harm them?

government officials calling the entire LGBT community groomers

all this other stuff you will ignore


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Antifar
12/04/22 10:02:43 AM
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Jx1010 posted...
How is the government persecuting them?
Dude
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/florida-medical-board-votes-ban-gender-affirming-care-transgender-mino-rcna54632

To give just one example

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Zikten
12/04/22 10:03:09 AM
#104:


Jx1010 posted...
How is the government persecuting them?
The entire republican party is trying to criminalize being trans
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AloneIBreak
12/04/22 10:05:34 AM
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His open TERF-dom is disappointing, but realistically Im going to watch it anyway.

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Jx1010
12/04/22 10:08:19 AM
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Antifar posted...
Dude
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/florida-medical-board-votes-ban-gender-affirming-care-transgender-mino-rcna54632

To give just one example
Sorry but she said everyone and this article states is only for minors

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:08:52 AM
#108:


AceMos posted...
it makes ppl see other groups as lesser and that makes them think its ok for discrimination against them
Is it really Dave or is it really about a clear line not being communicated?

When I see the big picture and I check all the lines of communication, not everything is translate. The biggest misconception is that Transwomen is there no difference whatsoever (biological, life experience, etc) and that Trans are in denial of that difference. It has not been communicated effectively that trans are aware of the difference. It also doesn't help that the allies aren't really helping.

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Jx1010
12/04/22 10:15:18 AM
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Whats a terf? Never heard of that before

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Jx1010
12/04/22 10:20:47 AM
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Confusing

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:24:08 AM
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Are we forgetting everything he said?
He stated that transwomen can't experience pregnancy like a ciswomen could and that there is a difference. I mean obviously transwomen knows that. But the major narrative out there is Transwomen are in denial of that. All he is stating is there's a difference between trans and cis. He didn't say he hate them he didn't try to deny their right. His thoughts are obviously coming from a place of ignorance.

You can attack Dave all you want but you're not going to solve the actual issue, the most communication and the false narrative. Dave isn't a problem, he is just a synptom.

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Gwynevere
12/04/22 10:31:44 AM
#116:


Jx1010 posted...
Sorry but she said everyone and this article states is only for minors
How about up to 25?

https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/3460403-missouri-lawmakers-consider-extending-proposed-ban-on-gender-affirming-care-to-adults/

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AceMos
12/04/22 10:33:31 AM
#117:


omniryu posted...
He stated that transwomen can't experience pregnancy like a ciswomen could and that there is a difference.
tons of ciswoman cant experience pregnancy either are they less woman than ones who can

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:33:34 AM
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Yeah and when he said it. He said, " I guess I am a terf too" because he agree with the false narrative. You didn't think he actually knows the full ideology of a terf right?
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You're not understanding what I am saying. I, omniryu, never said that. I will break it down slowly.
  1. It
  2. Is
  3. The
  4. FALSE
  5. Narrative
  6. That
  7. Transwoman
  8. Are
  9. In
  10. Denial


1 through 10 is your enemy. Not Dave. You can get rid of Dave but 20 more will come back because 1 through 10 feeds their information about the issue.


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Intro2Logic
12/04/22 10:35:09 AM
#119:


Does Dave Chappelle have any responsibility for spreading the false narrative given his massive platform?

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:35:39 AM
#120:


AceMos posted...
tons of ciswoman cant experience pregnancy either are they less woman than ones who can
Please read the whole post. I am not making an argument if he is right or not. I am giving example of why he believes in the false narrative.

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angeleyes94
12/04/22 10:36:54 AM
#121:


SauI_Goodman posted...

I really dont get it lol. It takes no effort to not watch. Literally dont have to do anything.


Exactly, it's just that simple, Dave Chappelle does not exist to not trigger you. If you don't like it don't watch it, peace out?

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:39:27 AM
#122:


Intro2Logic posted...
Does Dave Chappelle have any responsibility for spreading the false narrative given his massive platform?
Is trying to canceling him the more effective route? Don't you guys see? By doing that all they see is someone who wants to shut down an argument. The more effective route was having a conversation with him. He isn't likely to automatically dismiss what you have to say.

Btw,
Whatever happen with Dave and his offer to have a discussion with the trans community? Did that ever take place?

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FaultyCircuitry
12/04/22 10:41:31 AM
#123:


Intro2Logic posted...
Does Dave Chappelle have any responsibility for spreading the false narrative given his massive platform?

yes
omniryu posted...
1 through 10 is your enemy. Not Dave

1-10 is the enemy. dave is also the enemy.

symptoms of the problem are still a problem because they spread the problem and cause more people to buy into it

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gunplagirl
12/04/22 10:44:25 AM
#124:


omniryu posted...
Is trying to canceling him the more effective route? Don't you guys see? By doing that all they see is someone who wants to shut down an argument. The more effective route was having a conversation with him. He isn't likely to automatically dismiss what you have to say.

Btw,
Whatever happen with Dave and his offer to have a discussion with the trans community? Did that ever take place?
Every time someone offers he refused to reply or ran away because he was LYING the same way you're lying by being disingenuous in every single post

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Akagami_Shanks
12/04/22 10:47:16 AM
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Not that this detracts from trans people(and it really shouldn't, I don't mean to start any debates with this post and won't be entertaining any), but an interesting parallel i noticed is ITT you can replace almost every instance of trans with "black people" and it would still be massively relevant, America has a LOT of issues

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:49:29 AM
#127:


gunplagirl posted...
Every time someone offers he refused to reply or ran away because he was LYING the same way you're lying by being disingenuous in every single post
What am I lying about? Where am I being disingenuous? That there is a false narrative that transwomen are in denial? Did you even read my post? Or should I state it again?

FaultyCircuitry posted...
dave is also the enemy.

symptoms of the problem are still a problem because they spread the problem and cause more people to buy into it
And this is why we have a problem. You pretty much decided no one can be educated if they have differing opinion and this is why society is where it is.

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Intro2Logic
12/04/22 10:50:50 AM
#129:


Dave has had opportunities to learn and he has chosen not to take them

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archedsoul
12/04/22 10:53:00 AM
#130:


gunplagirl posted...
Every time someone offers he refused to reply or ran away because he was LYING the same way you're lying by being disingenuous in every single post
Source?

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:53:12 AM
#131:


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Kanye was always an empty vessel. Kanye is whoever is in Kanye's ears currently.

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Then if Dave didn't want to hear then it is fine not wanting to support him. If he backs out on his promise and it should be called out.

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omniryu
12/04/22 10:58:00 AM
#132:


archedsoul posted...
Source?
She knows I am not lying, she is just mad. Give her time to calm down and she will see what I am talking about.

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Robot2600
12/04/22 10:58:16 AM
#133:


the other end of this joke is that TERFs do not accept intersectionality, the idea that minority struggles are intertwined, multiplicative, and unique to a person's experience.

TERFs want what is best for rich, white women, and nothing else.

Dave doesnt think about how tough he's making life for black trans women, for example. Or that the AIDS epidemic hits harder in non-white communities, and bashing the LGBTQ+ community is only going to worsen that, or any other stuff.

TERFs are angry, and they think their anger makes them righteous, but at they are really operating on the unconscious belief that they are the center of the universe and that their immediate thoughts and desires should dictate how society orders itself (to paraphrase david foster wallace).

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LeadPipeCinche
12/04/22 11:04:09 AM
#134:


AceMos posted...
so you like transphobes


Hes a COMEDIAN.
He makes fun of everybody.
Get over yourself
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FaultyCircuitry
12/04/22 11:04:58 AM
#135:


omniryu posted...
And this is why we have a problem. You pretty much decided no one can be educated if they have differing opinion and this is why society is where it is.

Look if people seek to be educated I will not hold it against them, but that is their responsibility to do so

I barely have the energy to get dressed in the morning, I'm not spending my precious energy arguing with people that advocate views that want me and my friends dead (even if due to their ignorance the people don't realize that's what theyre pushing for )

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FaultyCircuitry
12/04/22 11:06:50 AM
#136:


LeadPipeCinche posted...
Hes a COMEDIAN.
He makes fun of everybody.
Get over yourself

He left comedy because he didn't like why white people were laughing at his jokes

He comes back and begins to demonize and mock trans people in ways not dissimilar to what the white people in his audience were doing wrt laughing at his jokes about black people

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AndreLeGeant
12/04/22 11:09:15 AM
#137:


Dave isn't a transphobe, he's a black nationalist. His instinct is to dismiss any civil right issue as taking attention from the suppression of black people. He views LGBT issues as white issues foremost. To the extent black people with HIV or who are LGBT face worse discrimination or violence, he believes that proves the point that race is the issue to address.

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gunplagirl
12/04/22 11:11:23 AM
#138:


AndreLeGeant posted...
Dave isn't a transphobe, he's a black nationalist. His instinct is to dismiss any civil right issue as taking attention from the suppression of black people. He views LGBT issues as white issues foremost. To the extent black people with HIV or who are LGBT face worse discrimination or violence, he believes that proves the point that race is the issue to address.
He can be both. He is a transphobe.

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omniryu
12/04/22 11:14:08 AM
#139:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
Look if people seek to be educated I will not hold it against them, but that is their responsibility to do so
I kinda get that but at the same time. I partially disagree. You're not going to seek the information out if the false narrative is the only thing that is being offered to you.

For instance, their was a young lady name Shanquella Robinson. She died from suffering an brutal injury from a friend ( a real fake mother fucking friend ). There was a narrative spread that the friend was a transwomen. A lot of people (even ones I know in irl) believe it was true. They believed it because they felt a ciswoman doesn't travel a strength to kill someone with their bare hands.

I was upset be you're just making transwomen a target for shit they didn't do. But they were satisfied with that answer and 98% of the coverage barely tried to correct that information.

It isn't their responsibility sure but the truth is a lot of people will be satisfied with the first answer they get if they are not corrected.

Also with that attitude we wouldn't get anywhere in society.

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omniryu
12/04/22 11:17:05 AM
#140:




gunplagirl posted...
He can be both. He is a transphobe.
Did you ever get around to reading my post?

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AndreLeGeant
12/04/22 11:20:42 AM
#141:


gunplagirl posted...
He can be both. He is a transphobe.
If you watch the special he did, he talks at length about a trans person that he knew was close with. Don't think that he's a transphobe based on the things he said. He simply believes that these issues are all subordinate too. The struggle of black people. He has a specific bet where he talks about how a white gay person can immediately avoid attacks from the police.

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Ikzai
12/04/22 11:22:52 AM
#142:


AndreLeGeant posted...
Dave isn't a transphobe, he's a black nationalist. His instinct is to dismiss any civil right issue as taking attention from the suppression of black people. He views LGBT issues as white issues foremost. To the extent black people with HIV or who are LGBT face worse discrimination or violence, he believes that proves the point that race is the issue to address.

I sometimes wonder if he wasn't so successful if he'd be right there with Kanye and Black Hebrew Israelites.

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Antifar
12/04/22 11:24:15 AM
#143:


AndreLeGeant posted...
If you watch the special he did, he talks at length about a trans person that he knew was close with.
That story is worth examining with scrutiny
https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p/dave-chappelles-some-of-my-best-friends


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Jx1010
12/04/22 11:27:26 AM
#144:


AndreLeGeant posted...
Dave isn't a transphobe, he's a black nationalist. His instinct is to dismiss any civil right issue as taking attention from the suppression of black people. He views LGBT issues as white issues foremost. To the extent black people with HIV or who are LGBT face worse discrimination or violence, he believes that proves the point that race is the issue to address.

I do believe race is a big issue in the US, and issues with the black community need to be addressed and are much more important. Politicians say they care about the black community but they really dont help the families.

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omniryu
12/04/22 11:28:09 AM
#145:


Ikzai posted...
I sometimes wonder if he wasn't so successful if he'd be right there with Kanye and Black Hebrew Israelites.
Let me ask, how do you feel about that?

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omniryu
12/04/22 11:29:36 AM
#146:


Jx1010 posted...
I do believe race is a big issue in the US, and issues with the black community need to be addressed and are much more important. Politicians say they care about the black community but they really dont help the families.
They pretty much exploit black people for their vote. They also leave them in the wild.

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Ozarhok
12/04/22 11:36:13 AM
#148:


Making fun of trans people =/= transphobia

Duh

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ShineboxPhil
12/04/22 11:36:47 AM
#149:


Dave Chappelle did nothing wrong.

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CellBlock7
12/04/22 11:56:34 AM
#150:


This whole topic is a more offensive joke than anything Dave Chapelle ever said.


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SuccubusLilith
12/04/22 12:00:12 PM
#151:


ShineboxPhil posted...
Dave Chappelle did nothing wrong.


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