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FatAnimeBooty
12/08/22 9:06:43 AM
#52:


Glad she's out, but that's a terrible trade
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ElatedVenusaur
12/08/22 9:08:28 AM
#53:


Kastrada posted...
People are still believing she had pot on her?

With all of the bullshit Russia has been doing for years?

The spy networks?
The arrests/disappearing of dissidents?
This invasion of a neutral nation to combat "Nazism"?
The state sanction LGBT purging in Chechnya?
The imprisonment of an American just weeks before the Ukranian invasion?

With all of that knowledge at our fingertips, people are still trusting them when they say she broke their laws?
She did have a trace amount, I don't think anyone disputes that detail. What is clear is that the Russians railroaded her for partly political reasons, and that some people are simply born licking boot.

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Humble_Novice
12/08/22 9:08:35 AM
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What makes it a terrible trade? Is Viktor Bout still a major threat? How much help would he even be for Russia now that they're hemorrhaging troops everyday? No matter how many weapons he ends up smuggling, it won't amount to much when Russian men are poorly trained and fed.
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masterpug53
12/08/22 9:08:40 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Whenever this topic comes up it astounds me how 1) people can't see the obvious political game being played here, and 2) they are prepared to shill for russian oppression

"It's the law" is not the high IQ take you think it is

This. "She should be shamed for the rest of her life for being an unwitting political pawn" is the most room-temperature IQ take I've seen on this board in awhile; that's like someone throwing a brick at your head and you getting in a fistfight with the brick.

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Fin_Dawg_004
12/08/22 9:09:03 AM
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Do people actually think an arms dealer who has been imprisoned for 15+ years has any material value to russia? He is blacklisted by every nation and will be closely monitored by the US and others. This was essentially a PR swap for both sides, and Griner deserved to come home

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ThunderTrain
12/08/22 9:12:26 AM
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Bad move but people will shut the fuck up about it now

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Crimson_Corsair
12/08/22 9:29:36 AM
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Jfc, US getting fleeced harder than the Raiders.

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gamestunner
12/08/22 9:34:14 AM
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I bet she loves America again.

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SodomInsane
12/08/22 9:38:35 AM
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Flauros posted...
Let me get this straight. We literally traded the Lord of War for someone who copped a small time drug charge?

Fucking WHAT!?

Agreed. But I think saying this comes off as a bit Pro-Russian.

I also wonder will US free people on the same weed charges in this country. Or will they say yay we freed griner and those people will still be in jail.

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megamanfreakXD
12/08/22 9:39:40 AM
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Great, we gave away a criminal arms dealer that the US spent years to lock up for a chick who brought drugs to a shithole country and shoots balls through hoops

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Solution_45
12/08/22 9:50:56 AM
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well that's a shame
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Blue_Inigo
12/08/22 9:54:10 AM
#64:


megamanfreakXD posted...
Great, we gave away a criminal arms dealer that the US spent years to lock up for a chick who brought drugs to a shithole country and shoots balls through hoops
As we should. She didn't deserve such an extreme punishment for such a little thing and it only happened because of political games

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Beetlejo
12/08/22 9:54:18 AM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
Great, we gave away a criminal arms dealer that the US spent years to lock up for a chick who brought drugs to a shithole country and shoots balls through hoops

Tell us how you really feel
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s0nicfan
12/08/22 9:58:06 AM
#66:


We didn't even get Paul Whelan in the trade. Dude has been locked up since 2018 on trumped up spying charges with a 16 year sentence. Imagine being that guy's family and watching Biden trade the world's most infamous weapons dealer for a WNBA player and finding out your husband wasn't part of the trade.

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ZMythos
12/08/22 9:58:09 AM
#67:


The real moral of the story is that there is never a good reason to travel to authoritarian nations.

Never, ever, EVER travel to Russia, North Korea, China, etc. There's no good reason to. They will look for reasons to detain you. Just don't do it. Ever.

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TaylorHeinicke
12/08/22 9:58:58 AM
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now federally legalize it here. otherwise this is just bullshit PR directly assisting with a country waging a hostile and unnecessary war

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SauI_Goodman
12/08/22 10:00:16 AM
#69:


Irony posted...
Basically a child's take on this
Yep. She even said she had done it multiple times before. Russia: oh really


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Ratchetrockon
12/08/22 10:03:35 AM
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Yay

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PiOverlord
12/08/22 10:04:43 AM
#71:


Idk how to feel about this.

Feel conflicted, but I guess I'll say that we should be actively supporting our fellow Americans.

Edit: Not conflicted because of some moral stance against weed or because I hate Griner.

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Suolevram
12/08/22 10:06:05 AM
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Basketball player for a known arms dealer? Sounds like the USA pulled a sneaky and got the better end of the deal

At least she can come home. Let's hope this doesn't come back to haunt us.

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Beetlejo
12/08/22 10:07:05 AM
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"known arms dealer"

For all intents and purposes, a retired arms dealer for 15+ years with multiple targets on his back, no income, and lots of enemies in the country he is being returned to.

Sounds like an easy swap.
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Alteres
12/08/22 10:07:18 AM
#74:


Zikten posted...
I have mixed feelings. She didn't deserve what they were doing to her. But I'm fucking pissed that that merchant of death guy got out. As I understand, he's caused countless deaths
Zikten with the absolute only proper response

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Suolevram
12/08/22 10:08:16 AM
#75:


Beetlejo posted...
"known arms dealer"

For all intents and purposes, a retired arms dealer for 15+ years with multiple targets on his back, no income, and lots of enemies in the country he is being returned to.

Sounds like an easy swap.
He's just a regular guy, never was known as anything else. Once you get arrested you lose all your contacts. For life. Right

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Jagr_68
12/08/22 10:10:04 AM
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Nick Cage free again

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Beetlejo
12/08/22 10:12:15 AM
#77:


This guy is going to be dead within 6 months after accidentally falling out of a window and people are still butthurt we got Griner home.
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lolife67
12/08/22 10:12:36 AM
#78:


Beetlejo posted...
"known arms dealer"

For all intents and purposes, a retired arms dealer for 15+ years with multiple targets on his back, no income, and lots of enemies in the country he is being returned to.

Sounds like an easy swap.
Why do you think Russia wanted him back?
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A_Good_Boy
12/08/22 10:12:37 AM
#79:


s0nicfan posted...
We didn't even get Paul Whelan in the trade. Dude has been locked up since 2018 on trumped up spying charges with a 16 year sentence. Imagine being that guy's family and watching Biden trade the world's most infamous weapons dealer for a WNBA player and finding out your husband wasn't part of the trade.
Well was Paul Whelen spying?

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Beetlejo
12/08/22 10:14:26 AM
#80:


lolife67 posted...
Why do you think Russia wanted him back?

A desperate attempt on gaining some new weapons for the war, with two shots in the back of the head no matter the outcome.
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DoesntMatter
12/08/22 10:20:35 AM
#81:


Beetlejo posted...
"known arms dealer"

For all intents and purposes, a retired arms dealer for 15+ years with multiple targets on his back, no income, and lots of enemies in the country he is being returned to.

Sounds like an easy swap.
now you're shilling for a global arms dealer so notorious that he's nicknamed "The Merchant of Death" and made a Nicolas Cage movie about him? do you ever not have absolute shit takes?

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Beetlejo
12/08/22 10:22:42 AM
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DoesntMatter posted...
now you're shilling for a global arms dealer so notorious that he's nicknamed "The Merchant of Death" and made a Nicolas Cage movie about him? do you ever not have absolute shit takes?

I'm "shilling" for a US wrongfully detained prisoner to come home, and understanding the fact that the prisoner we are swapping has no power or any life expectancy left. He was more protected in our prisons, and most likely would have lived his best life because of it. Now he gets to suffer more and get killed over in Russia.
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s0nicfan
12/08/22 10:26:53 AM
#83:


Beetlejo posted...
I'm "shilling" for a US wrongfully detained prisoner to come home, and understanding the fact that the prisoner we are swapping has no power or any life expectancy left. He was more protected in our prisons, and most likely would have lived his best life because of it. Now he gets to suffer more and get killed over in Russia.

Dude is going to get a hero's welcome. WTF are you smoking? Just look at how RT is reporting it:
https://www.rt.com/russia/567897-bout-griner-exchange-prisoner/
Russia and the US have conducted a high-level prisoner swap, involving businessman Viktor Bout and WNBA star Brittney Griner.

On Thursday, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that the two individuals has been exchanged in Dubai. Bout had been in a US prison for 11 years serving a 25-year term, while Griner was sentenced to a penal colony in Russia on drug smuggling charges.

Washington categorically refused to discuss including the Russian national in the exchange scheme. Nevertheless, the Russian Federation continued to actively work on rescuing our compatriot, the ministry noted.

Russian businessman Bout ended up in Washingtons custody back in 2008, when he was arrested in Thailand after a sting operation run by the US Drug Enforcement Administration. He was subsequently extradited to the US and sentenced to 25 years in 2012 after being convicted on gun-running charges. Bout has consistently denied any wrongdoing.

Professional basketball player Griner was arrested at a Moscow airport back in February, when cannabis oil was found in her luggage. In August, she was sentenced to nine years in a penal colony on drug charges. Griner pleaded guilty, but maintained she did not intend to break any laws and had simply packed a vape containing cannabis oil accidentally.



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Beetlejo
12/08/22 10:28:50 AM
#84:


Where in that article does it state he will be getting "a hero's welcome" ?
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NinjaWarrior455
12/08/22 10:29:55 AM
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Noted state sponsered propaganda RT

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s0nicfan
12/08/22 10:32:28 AM
#86:


Beetlejo posted...
Where in that article does it state he will be getting "a hero's welcome" ?

Where does it state anywhere that he's going to suffer and be killed when he gets home like you're claiming?

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DoesntMatter
12/08/22 10:38:52 AM
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aaaaaaaand he's gone

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SodomInsane
12/08/22 10:40:49 AM
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DoesntMatter posted...
aaaaaaaand he's gone

The Merchant of Death fell off a building or suicided already?

That was fast.

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YellowSUV
12/08/22 10:43:48 AM
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A prison swap of a major arms dealer for a celebrity is just going to encourage Russia and other authoritarian countries to continue to arrest Americans on false or minor charges.

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Blue_Inigo
12/08/22 10:45:51 AM
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YellowSUV posted...
A prison swap of a major arms dealer for a celebrity is just going to encourage Russia and other authoritarian countries to continue to arrest Americans on false or minor charges.
She's not the first person this happened to. They've been doing this and always will

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CADE_FOSTER
12/08/22 10:46:13 AM
#92:


Americans need to stop going to Russia period consider it a hostile country
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s0nicfan
12/08/22 10:48:35 AM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Noted state sponsered propaganda RT

Just to be clear, that was intentional. I don't go to RT for news, but if we want some insight into what Russia's perspective is on the swap they are reasonable resource to use because they're so blatantly propaganda.

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CADE_FOSTER
12/08/22 10:52:44 AM
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I mean America isnt gonna rescue regular Americans caught up in Putins shit so yeah
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Returning_CEmen
12/08/22 10:54:22 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Dont go to other countries and disrespect their laws

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Deedice
12/08/22 10:56:53 AM
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DipDipDiver posted...
Who did we trade?

A Russian arms dealer who apparently had 15 years left of his sentence
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Deedice
12/08/22 11:04:55 AM
#99:


Kastrada posted...
People are still believing she had pot on her?

With all of the bullshit Russia has been doing for years?

The spy networks?
The arrests/disappearing of dissidents?
This invasion of a neutral nation to combat "Nazism"?
The state sanction LGBT purging in Chechnya?
The imprisonment of an American just weeks before the Ukranian invasion?

With all of that knowledge at our fingertips, people are still trusting them when they say she broke their laws?

She plead guilty
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Alteres
12/08/22 11:07:22 AM
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Deedice posted...
She plead guilty
yeah, maybe she had a fear of heights

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