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ctesjbuvf
12/10/22 4:15:08 PM
#202:


malyg posted...
Even when we don't lose on pens, we lose on pens.

I've read this so many times already lol.

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Dark_Silvergun
12/10/22 4:24:30 PM
#203:


England is done. Penalties, and one missed was the difference, and France is moving on.

Bracket update:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/1/AAE6mcAAD-aX.png

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Dark_Silvergun
12/10/22 4:25:45 PM
#204:


Rankings:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/2/AAE6mcAAD-aY.png

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RyoCaliente
12/10/22 4:28:37 PM
#205:


If Argentina and Morocco win, it'll be the first WC final without an European team since 1950!

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XIII_Rocks
12/10/22 4:33:19 PM
#206:


Sad thing is that will be Kane's entire career. He is one of the best strikers I've ever seen but he will never ever shake that off.

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Dark_Silvergun
12/10/22 4:41:38 PM
#207:


If you go by Group, here is the list:

Group A = ELIMINATED
Group B = ELIMINATED
Group C = Argentina
Group D = France
Group E = ELIMINATED
Group F = Morocco, Croatia
Group G = ELIMINATED
Group H = ELIMINATED

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paulg235
12/10/22 4:45:25 PM
#208:


Hopefully Kane realizes that he's clearly isn't going to win anything at Spurs and leaves this summer. Bayern Munich are apparently interested in him, so he could go there for an easy trophy or two.

Next 4 years are going to be interesting as this will be when we slowly transition away from the likes of Walker, Henderson,Trippier, Kane, and probably Maguire, Stones and Sterling. Hopefully, with the experience the younger players have gotten since last year, here's hoping we finally win something for the men.

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red_sox_777
12/10/22 4:47:45 PM
#209:


Europe - 2
South America - 1
Africa - 1
Asia - Eliminated
North America - Eliminated
Oceania - Did Not Qualify
Antarctica - Undefeated

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malyg
12/10/22 4:51:14 PM
#210:


red_sox_777 posted...
Oceania - Did Not Qualify
australia were eliminated in the groups.
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malyg
12/10/22 4:52:30 PM
#211:


XIII_Rocks posted...
Sad thing is that will be Kane's entire career. He is one of the best strikers I've ever seen but he will never ever shake that off.

This, yeah. He had a great world cup and a great game. But skying that pen will be all he's remembered. That and hitting the post vs Croatia.
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paulg235
12/10/22 4:52:56 PM
#212:


malyg posted...
australia were eliminated in the groups.
Australia plays in the Asian federation now, so they are likely counting them as Asia.

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ctesjbuvf
12/10/22 5:00:05 PM
#213:


malyg posted...
australia were eliminated in the groups.

They play in Asia and also advanced from the groups.

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firefdr
12/10/22 5:13:23 PM
#214:


RyoCaliente posted...
If Argentina and Morocco win, it'll be the first WC final without an European team since 1950!
Spain was in the final group so it's actually 1930!
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ctesjbuvf
12/10/22 5:23:58 PM
#215:


firefdr posted...
Spain was in the final group so it's actually 1930!

So was Sweden but the Uruguay Brazil match was a final in the sense that the others were out at that point.

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voltch
12/10/22 6:38:47 PM
#216:


Tremendous set of QFs.
Morocco vs France, there's some history there for sure.

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guffguy89
12/10/22 8:21:48 PM
#217:


I'm not a big soccer fan, but I'll never understand how professional players can sail the ball over the net like that so frequently. I understand they are trading power for accuracy, but you'd think they've spent hundreds of hours practicing power shots on the goal. I just can't comprehend it. I'd understand in high school sports and such, but these are the best players in the world.

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HeroicCrono
12/10/22 8:38:08 PM
#218:


guffguy89 posted...
I'm not a big soccer fan, but I'll never understand how professional players can sail the ball over the net like that so frequently. I understand they are trading power for accuracy, but you'd think they've spent hundreds of hours practicing power shots on the goal. I just can't comprehend it. I'd understand in high school sports and such, but these are the best players in the world.

If they miss low they hit the wall of players. Their window to score is very narrow.

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Dark_Silvergun
12/10/22 10:52:57 PM
#219:


To clarify:

AFC = Asia, Middle East & Australia

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Dark_Silvergun
12/10/22 10:58:38 PM
#220:


And look at that, I'm at 5999 Karma on my account!

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ChichiriMuyo
12/10/22 11:30:27 PM
#221:


Although I want Messi to end his career with a world cup under his belt, I'd feel quite good about any team other than France winning. Croatia has been chasing this for a long time, and imagine what it'd mean if Morocco won.

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ZeldaTPLink
12/11/22 5:32:58 AM
#222:


Dark_Silvergun posted...
To clarify:

AFC = Asia, Middle East & Australia

Btw Middle East is part of Asia.
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ctesjbuvf
12/11/22 7:12:29 AM
#223:


Mbappe and Messi is probably battling for both Golden Ball and Golden Shoe at this point (the latter also with Giroud). I'm at least expecting that if one of them makes the final, they'll receive the Ball. If both then who knows.

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paulg235
12/11/22 7:26:48 AM
#224:


And if neither do, Luka Modric will probably win it unless they win another penalty kickout in the process.

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ctesjbuvf
12/11/22 7:36:35 AM
#225:


Yeah, probably.

Maybe, in the event that it will be Argentina and France, if one of Messi and Mbappe becomes a clear Golden Shoe winner in the semifinal they will award the other one the Golden Ball.

How often does someone not playing the final receive it? I remember Forlan in 10.

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ctesjbuvf
12/11/22 7:40:36 AM
#226:


I understand most ref complains (from mostly any team these QF to tbh, but it's England's I'm seeing most), but I will say one thing. Kane was fouled outside the box, those pictures are clear as day.

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ZeldaTPLink
12/11/22 1:30:30 PM
#227:


I did something fun.

Next world cup has 48 teams, so I'm trying to predict how many of each continent there will be.

This is the current continental math:

Europe: 13
South America: 4.5
North America: 3.5
Asia: 4.5
Africa: 5
Oceania: 0.5:
Host: 1

The halves are continents that have to do play-offs to decide if they get an extra country or not. For example, North America does a play-off with Oceania, and if they win, they get to send 4 countries while Oceania gets none, if they lose, they send 3 and Oceania sends 1.

So next world cup e have 48 teams. 3 are hosts (USA, Mexico and Canada), so the numbers above have to be multipled by 45/31 to get the ideal proportions, giving us:

Europe: 18.87
South America: 6.53
North America: 5.08
Asia: 6.53
Africa: 7.26
Oceania: 0.73
Host: 3

Now we have to round them. If we round them all up and down to the nearest half, we get 48, including the hosts. However, I feel like Oceania really gets the short end of the stick if they still have 0.5 after 16 countries are added. Also, North America already has 3 host countries, they can afford to lose a 0.5. So if we follow that ligic, we get:

Europe: 19
South America: 6.5
North America: 4.5
Asia: 6.5
Africa: 7.5
Oceania: 1
Host: 3

And we can always take that 0.5 from a different country each WC, depending on who is hosting, since WCs going forward are likely to have 2-3 hosts each. For example, if 3 European countries host in 2030, they get 18.5 slots instead of 19, while NA gets 5.

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XIII_Rocks
12/11/22 1:51:14 PM
#228:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/5/AAKKwUAAD-m7.jpg

Same energy

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ChichiriMuyo
12/11/22 8:43:20 PM
#229:


I actually did feel a bit bad when he was crying. I don't like the man even a little bit, but I get why he was devastated. Still, I'm glad the man will never win the world cup. His behavior on and off the field has been pretty terrible over the years.

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neonreaper
12/11/22 8:49:13 PM
#230:


I dont really care about any of these guys but man it was weird when Ronaldo acted like he scored that goal instead of being happy for his teammate

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ChichiriMuyo
12/11/22 9:18:32 PM
#231:


He's legit incapable of being happy for his teammates. I can't remember what game it was because this is many years back, but I remember a post game interview he had where he straight up said he should have taken the game winning shot instead of his teammate who made it and ensured a 1-0 win. His ego is so big that it's gravitational pull can be measured.

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Dark_Silvergun
12/12/22 12:43:25 PM
#232:


Tomorrow, the madness continues!

Also, 6000 Karma day, woo!

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Axl_Rose_85
12/12/22 12:52:08 PM
#233:


Why do I have this feeling where Croatia is gonna beat 3 teams on penalties and completely job to France in a rematch that nobody asked for in the final.

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MartinFF7
12/12/22 3:40:07 PM
#234:


probably because there's like, a 40% chance of that happening, if you give Argentina 60/40 odds to win their matchup and uh....France 99-1 odds over Morocco

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charmander6000
12/12/22 4:00:00 PM
#235:


Morocco has lost a few of their key defensive players. I don't think they will survive the onslaught, especially if France scores early.

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 4:01:41 PM
#236:


MartinFF7 posted...
probably because there's like, a 40% chance of that happening, if you give Argentina 60/40 odds to win their matchup and uh....France 99-1 odds over Morocco

might be too harsh re: Morocco, I WANT TO BELIEVE, but all I can think about is the year Iceland beat England in the Euro QFs before being trounced in the semis.

They beat England in the last 16 but yeah, could be lol.

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ctesjbuvf
12/13/22 5:19:35 AM
#237:


Today is once again World Cup day.

I just saw a picture of the four goalkeepers left (that had bene on the pitch) and it really shows how crucial a role that is when three of them have had golden boot shootouts for crucial saves and penalty kick victories. I don't see Lloris as good as the others there, but he also have not been tested to the same degree this WC.

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ctesjbuvf
12/13/22 7:42:53 AM
#238:


Let's also do top 4 best XI

Livakovic
Hakimi - Martinez - Guardiol - Theo Hernandez
Modric - Tchouameni - Amrabat
Messi - Giroud - Mbappe

Some subs: Bono, Otamendi, Acuna, Brozovic, Ziyech, Boufal, Alvarez

A majority of the XI I also had last round where I made an effort to include all 8 teams so good calls!

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voltch
12/13/22 1:10:56 PM
#239:


Let's go Modric/Kovacic!
Preparing just in case for another 120min war.

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voltch
12/13/22 1:28:51 PM
#240:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Let's also do top 4 best XI

Livakovic
Hakimi - Martinez - Guardiol - Theo Hernandez
Modric - Tchouameni - Amrabat
Messi - Giroud - Mbappe

Some subs: Bono, Otamendi, Acuna, Brozovic, Ziyech, Boufal, Alvarez

A majority of the XI I also had last round where I made an effort to include all 8 teams so good calls!

I'm obviously biased towards French National side, but I wouldn't include Theo Hernandez in a best XI from what's left. He's been good going forward, but he's been very suspect defensively and in the England game he could well have cost them the game.
I'd put in Griezmann somewhere because I think he's been France's second best player after Mbappe and has capitalised on all the space given to him due to the attention Mbappe and Giroud draw.
I'd put one of Brozovic or De Paul in the main lineup. I favour De Paul over MacAllister as among the Argentina midfielders putting in a shift to let Messi do whatever he wants.

Though weirdly it's Enzo Fernandez the one Liverpool are linked with hard.

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voltch
12/13/22 2:11:31 PM
#241:


De Paul, Fernandez, MacAllister and Paredes.

Scaloni wants to lull everyone to sleep before the trademark moment of magic.

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Seanchan
12/13/22 2:35:43 PM
#242:


Easy penalty call. Messi clinical.

1-0 Argentina

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YoBlazer
12/13/22 2:37:24 PM
#243:


Guess the Tuesday mid-workday timing of this match is killing some of the conversation. Even my family group chat that's been following the cup and goes crazy for Messi is silent.

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neonreaper
12/13/22 2:39:06 PM
#244:


Wowow

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iiaattgg
12/13/22 2:40:56 PM
#245:


Its over

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Seanchan
12/13/22 2:41:11 PM
#246:


Defensive stupidity, plus a little luck via tenacity.

2-0 Argentina

Its not over yet but it kind of already feels like it is.

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XIII_Rocks
12/13/22 2:41:31 PM
#247:


Superb run, lots of luck. Smart move was to slip it left really but he backed himself and was rewarded

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Seanchan
12/13/22 2:47:20 PM
#248:


Could have been another penalty for handball by the Croatian defender. He was definitely trying to use his natural arm position as much as possible

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charmander6000
12/13/22 2:47:33 PM
#249:


Argentina with one foot into the final.

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Nanis23
12/13/22 2:51:45 PM
#250:


I am bitter about the first penalty

Look I am not expert in Soccer or anything, I don't care about this at all
But come on, Argentina's player is the one that tackled the goalkeeper, he just stood there

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XIII_Rocks
12/13/22 2:51:56 PM
#251:


Tbh I like Modric but I'd rather not see a rematch in the final.

France vs. Argentina, though a little cookie cutter, is huge. That said, if Morocco somehow do it again...

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