Board 8 > Eff 2021 Mafia: Topic 3 - Insurrectionist Vikings

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PunishedBen
12/12/22 5:13:45 PM
#301:


Arosnist douses people in gasoline and then has the option to blow them all up in a blaze of fury. Which also lines up with what he admitted, which is that he "paints" a target during the night and then has the option to kill or spare them the next day.

Isquen posted...
Shrug. Like if you want a good faith gesture and I'm alive day 2, I'll call my target first thing and then you get to convince

You're looking at it wrong. I cant change the target; I can change the shot to go from "kill" to "j/k nevermind it's a blank." Or opt to not play with a gun at all (but what fun is that?)

Like if you want a good faith gesture and I'm alive day 2, I'll call my target first thing and then you get to convince me to not pull the trigger. You know, providing I'm alive.

That was my first game, I WAS a ninja, and I survived to the end to lose it.


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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:13:56 PM
#302:


Suprak_the_Stud posted...
[1] Lea - BCT, (Sultan), Suprak


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htaeD
12/12/22 5:15:15 PM
#303:


Lea posted...
I guess it's not 100% a third party role, but it's not great


It does not sound like Alec Baldwin thats for sure.

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Fastbreak
12/12/22 5:15:18 PM
#304:


Weren't people asking for plums opinions before he even joined?

Or am I mixing him with puns again

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:15:52 PM
#305:


Fastbreak posted...
Weren't people asking for plums opinions before he even joined?

Or am I mixing him with puns again
I made a joke about puns saying lea's signature

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masterplum
12/12/22 5:17:18 PM
#306:


Good to be taking a break from my brain hurting in Umineko to.... this.

Picking up my son from school now so I won't be able to read up till later but I should be good to go with a couple hours to spare

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PunishedBen
12/12/22 5:19:47 PM
#308:


Now that I'm thinking about how creative his Alec Baldwin fake claim is, I do think its reasonable he went forward with it because the fake claim was so good flavorly that he couldn't resist.

He made DOTA mafia so creative fakeclaims are probably his best asset as scum


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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 5:21:18 PM
#309:


As unfortunate as it is, I'm probably just gonna ignore the Stan/plum slot today then because I'm likely not gonna be around for plum having caught up anyways (also European if anyone should somehow not know).

Ben, would you say you have gotten the last piece in your puzzle yet?

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changmas
12/12/22 5:21:20 PM
#310:


Alright this sounds pretty legit Ill bite

##Vote:Isquen

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masterplum
12/12/22 5:21:26 PM
#311:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Who started the game dead

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Suprak_the_Stud
12/12/22 5:22:36 PM
#313:


VOTALS: No Way Home
[3] Ben- ctes, (MI), (Sultan), chaeix, (Death), MI
[3] chaeix - Han, Lea, Scare, (MI), (Suprak)
[2] BCT - MZero, (Lea), SBell
[2] chang - Corrik, red
[2] Lea - BCT, (Sultan), Suprak
[2] Isquen - (Han), Death, changmas
[1] Scare - Isquen
[0] Han - (Isquen), (MI), (Scare)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch! Day ends in roughly 4 hours 35 minutes (9 PM CST)!

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:23:42 PM
#314:


Suprak_the_Stud posted...
[2] Lea - BCT, (Sultan), Suprak
Okay disregard my earlier post

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PunishedBen
12/12/22 5:24:07 PM
#315:


ctesjbuvf posted...
As unfortunate as it is, I'm probably just gonna ignore the Stan/plum slot today then because I'm likely not gonna be around for plum having caught up anyways (also European if anyone should somehow not know).

Ben, would you say you have gotten the last piece in your puzzle yet?
I just need to figure out if Isquen is third party or scum. Certainly not town

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:24:45 PM
#316:


PunishedBen posted...
I just need to figure out if Isquen is third party or scum. Certainly not town
Does it matter?

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Obellisk
12/12/22 5:27:02 PM
#318:


Ben, what part of isquen did you scan? is Arsonist a "power"? or was that flavor related?


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PunishedBen
12/12/22 5:27:17 PM
#319:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Does it matter?
Only to accurately judge other's reactions today to him

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Obellisk
12/12/22 5:27:51 PM
#320:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Does it matter?


to me it does. since I've heavily labeled BCt as 3rd party. So either we have two (not unheard of) or one of us is just wrong

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 5:31:20 PM
#321:


Alright, well, I'm asking because I struggled to see Isquen doing that counterclaim earlier if it wasn't legit. I'm also struggling to see Ben faking this though.

I don't find it very likely the two are aligned at the very least and I do agree Isquen bbeing town looks unlikely with this. Ben spoke as if though Isquen did not get help, maybe because Ben has that power as scum and Isquen is SK? I don't think that option is out of the question at all, especially because Ben has votes on him, but the better approach then is probably lynching Isquen, hmm.

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:31:21 PM
#322:


Well I guess we'll find out when we lynch him

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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:31:44 PM
#323:


Hey Ben when did you scan him?

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Obellisk
12/12/22 5:32:40 PM
#324:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Hey Ben when did you scan him?


good qu3sti9n,

was it during the stop?

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HanOfTheNekos
12/12/22 5:34:57 PM
#325:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/6/AAOJ0pAAD-2u.png

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HanOfTheNekos
12/12/22 5:35:20 PM
#326:


Guys, Ben is lying.

I'M Town Day-Rolecop!

jk

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changmas
12/12/22 5:39:48 PM
#327:


also i have to say this setup is starting to sound extremely swingy with a very high power budget if people arent bluffing.

dayvig, daycop, doublevoter, arsonist / modified dayvig (?)

Smart money says theres probably some bluffing going on here

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 5:41:52 PM
#329:


Well I mean two of those roles are confirmed to exist just not confirmed of any alignment. The other two can't really coexist both as town can they


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TotallyNotMI
12/12/22 5:45:48 PM
#330:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

nodnod

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Leafeon13N
12/12/22 5:46:32 PM
#331:


changmas posted...
Alright this sounds pretty legit Ill bite

##Vote:Isquen
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PunishedBen
12/12/22 5:51:39 PM
#332:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Hey Ben when did you scan him?
This morning after catching up. And after I got my result I asked him this because I wanted to figure out if he was forced to make his kill known, because I was having a hard time believing why he didn't just keep his ability to kill to himself and claim vanilla if scum

PunishedBen posted...
Isquen,

How do you trigger your shot? With a public word or a private PM to the host?



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Chaeix
12/12/22 5:57:54 PM
#334:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
What do you see? Or do you plan on playing this game by only voting people who claim something then take it back?

I see what I see when I see it. You can't really say 'well I could read BCT without having played with him, you should be able to as well'. He has claimed a wacky role and a person's role is inherently related to how they behave. I'm not going to sit here and make some judgment of 'oh well I think BCT is playing this unique, novel role in a particularly scummish or townish (or 3Pish way)' when I'm not prepared to. I think we just play mafia differently and if you want to label that scummy, feel free, but offering opinions that I don't have is a far greater disservice to town.

Also uh obviously that's how I'm going to be voting the entire game. Would everyone please kindly line up a fakeclaim that they can recant so that I can vote them?

##unvote: ben

This puts me in the lead for now but w/e.

Isquen didn't give us a role title, right? If that's correct, I think one of the most concerning parts of this is that he didn't give us his role name up front. If he was assuming that we wouldn't accept Arsonist as a town role it would make sense to omit it.

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Suprak_the_Stud
12/12/22 6:09:26 PM
#336:


At 450 plz:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80274111

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PunishedBen
12/12/22 6:14:14 PM
#337:


Chaeix posted...
I see what I see when I see it. You can't really say 'well I could read BCT without having played with him, you should be able to as well'. He has claimed a wacky role and a person's role is inherently related to how they behave. I'm not going to sit here and make some judgment of 'oh well I think BCT is playing this unique, novel role in a particularly scummish or townish (or 3Pish way)' when I'm not prepared to. I think we just play mafia differently and if you want to label that scummy, feel free, but offering opinions that I don't have is a far greater disservice to town.

Also uh obviously that's how I'm going to be voting the entire game. Would everyone please kindly line up a fakeclaim that they can recant so that I can vote them?

##unvote: ben

This puts me in the lead for now but w/e.

Isquen didn't give us a role title, right? If that's correct, I think one of the most concerning parts of this is that he didn't give us his role name up front. If he was assuming that we wouldn't accept Arsonist as a town role it would make sense to omit it.
The thing is, he clearly tried to pass it off that he had a gun and could "modify his shot". So why the need for the lying and the spin on that?

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ctesjbuvf
12/12/22 6:15:22 PM
#338:


Chaeix posted...
Isquen didn't give us a role title, right? If that's correct, I think one of the most concerning parts of this is that he didn't give us his role name up front. If he was assuming that we wouldn't accept Arsonist as a town role it would make sense to omit it.

Not that specifically, but he said he was day vig with a modifier or something along those lines.

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Corrik7
12/12/22 6:16:11 PM
#339:


##unvote:
##vote: Ben

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Corrik7
12/12/22 6:20:55 PM
#341:


Ben, Scare, JC is looking probable. I'm probably gonna die tonight. Save me please.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 6:30:45 PM
#344:


Wait so Isquen is arsonist now and not Alec Baldwin Vig Varient?

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PunishedBen
12/12/22 6:32:11 PM
#345:


*sips tea silently*

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Corrik7
12/12/22 6:32:45 PM
#347:


Listen. If you believe Ben, you don't believe Isquen.

Then you have have to wonder the thought process of why Ben scanned Isquen and why he just revealed it now of all things and not before.

Ben's claim is very problematic. It also could have been sametimed to confirm veracity, but wasn't even tried.

If you believe scare, sure then maybe you believe Ben. But, I don't.

Isquen can't be town if Ben is telling the truth. Thus, today has been firmly placed at Ben vs Isquen for who to lynch.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/12/22 6:33:12 PM
#348:


Any reason to actually beleive Ben here?

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Corrik7
12/12/22 6:35:02 PM
#349:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Any reason to actually beleive Ben here?
If you think isquen is scum, then yeah it's possible.

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