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voldothegr8 12/15/22 8:58:30 PM #52: |
Bless the 1st --- Oda break tracker 2022- 11 (3) | THE Ohio State:11-1 | Las Vegas Raiders: 4-7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Billyionaire 12/15/22 9:01:36 PM #53: |
Dissent against the wealthy elites' views and be subjugated to time in prison. Welcome to the brave new world. --- $ex ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 12/15/22 9:14:53 PM #54: |
Some transphobe might go to prison in a developed country? Heck. Blast it all. Fiddlesticks. My gawrsh. --- Have you ever had an...EGYPTIAN FEAST? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 12/15/22 9:18:31 PM #55: |
Lmao, dorks acting like Norway is shitty compared to majority of the countries people live in. Crying about... being unable to be a bigot? lol --- c ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 12/15/22 9:31:40 PM #56: |
TetsuoS2 posted... Lmao, dorks acting like Norway is shitty compared to majority of the countries people live in. Yeah, thats it. You nailed it. No nuance, just defending bigotry. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 12/15/22 9:40:11 PM #57: |
yes because norway is very dictatorial. oh wait they're not. --- c ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiritSephiroth 12/15/22 9:49:13 PM #58: |
@Patchwork I admire the way you express yourself. Its pretty well written >_> --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 12/15/22 9:53:42 PM #59: |
SpiritSephiroth posted... @Patchwork I admire the way you express yourself. Its pretty well written >_> Hey, thanks. I try to be as precise as possible to get my message across, because any small mistake in verbiage here will get your entire point cast aside. Not that most people debate in good faith anyway, but it is what it is. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 10:02:58 PM #60: |
Patchwork posted... Yeah, thats it. You nailed it.do you honestly trust an article with a headline that ridiculous at face value? --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 12/15/22 10:08:34 PM #61: |
averagejoel posted... do you honestly trust an article with a headline that ridiculous at face value? The article, or the slew of other articles about the incident from other outlets, outline the law. Will she actually go to prison? Highly unlikely. But is it asinine that prison is even in the range of possible sentences for speech? Yes. Completely. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 10:10:19 PM #62: |
Patchwork posted... The article, or the slew of other articles about the incident from other outlets, outline the law. Will she actually go to prison? Highly unlikely.she's knowingly inciting violence against an identifiable marginalized group of people --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 12/15/22 10:14:07 PM #63: |
averagejoel posted... she's knowingly inciting violence against an identifiable marginalized group of people Did she call for violence? It looks like she made disparaging remarks. Its just as impossible for men to become a lesbian as it is for men to become pregnant. Men are men regardless of their sexual fetishes. Thats reportedly the comment under investigation, and the 3 years is on the table due to it being public and not a private communication. Is she an asshole for the comment? Sure. But I dont see a call or even an implicit incitement to violence. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HairyQueen 12/15/22 10:19:25 PM #64: |
Why is TC linking to an MSN mirror of a Fox news article? It's almost like they're trying to obscure the source to add legitimacy to it. --- everybody loves intransigent zoo animals <3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 10:21:37 PM #65: |
Patchwork posted... Did she call for violence?you not seeing it is your problem. these people and the comments they make when given a platform lead to trans people getting murdered. she is knowingly perpetuating that behaviour. nipping it in the bud is a much better option than anything (for example) the US and Britain have done about it --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 10:28:34 PM #66: |
HairyQueen posted... Why is TC linking to an MSN mirror of a Fox news article? It's almost like they're trying to obscure the source to add legitimacy to it.the headline alone should be setting off alarm bells in anyone's head. a lot of people on here are just functionally illiterate --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Patchwork 12/15/22 10:30:05 PM #67: |
averagejoel posted... you not seeing it is on you. these people and the comments they make when given a platform lead to trans people getting murdered. she is knowingly perpetuating that behaviour. nipping it in the bud is a much better option than anything (for example) the US and Britain have done about it No, I see the argument that youre trying to make. I dont agree that its sensible to suppress speech like the quote from the article through criminal charges because some deranged lunatic might use it as fuel for violence he already wouldve perpetrated. You cant make the abstract argument that these types of comments lead to trans murders. You have nothing to back that up, whereas history has laid out plain that suppression of speech by the government is a very bad thing. When the party in power changes, or pushing for transgender rights are no longer in fashion for the politicians, other speech will be criminalized. Can you criticize politicians, or are you inciting violence by doing so? Do you see what Im saying? I would choose not to give the government any more power, at every turn. You wont get any freedoms back. And what is done for a good cause today will be used to hamstring you tomorrow. I know you mean well, and I dont think were going to see eye to eye on this. Respectfully, we just fundamentally disagree here. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Temporal 12/15/22 10:39:01 PM #69: |
lmao of course there are the usual suspects in here who are completely okay with this y'all are fucking insane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaiganeer 12/15/22 10:43:14 PM #70: |
i'm lesbians ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lorenzo_2003 12/15/22 10:44:27 PM #71: |
Patchwork posted... Just because you agree with the current administrations take Thats really the inconvenient truth about politics. A lot of people will claim theyre anti cop, anti prison, anti whatever, but then switch their tune real fast to being pro incarcerating people if they dont like that person or group. I suspect these are the same hypocrites who will call you a bootlicker if you disagree with them on a different issue. --- ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 10:49:30 PM #72: |
Patchwork posted... No, I see the argument that youre trying to make.how the fuck are you reading a fox news article about this with a clickbait headline and taking it at face value You cant make the abstract argument that these types of comments lead to trans murders. You have nothing to back that up, whereas history has laid out plain that suppression of speech by the government is a very bad thing.it's not abstract. if anything, suggesting that the people who murder trans people are just "deranged lunatics" who are unconnected with the filth that Tonje Gjevjon and her ilk spew; that they would have murdered trans people whether or not they were exposed to their views, is far more abstract. When the party in power changes, or pushing for transgender rights are no longer in fashion for the politicians, other speech will be criminalized.to the extent that transgender rights are "in fashion" for politicians (they aren't; that's largely a false narrative), it's only because trans people and their allies are forcing it to be Can you criticize politicians, or are you inciting violence by doing so?this is the most abstract argument in the entire topic! do you have any self-awareness at all? --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 10:52:46 PM #73: |
Lorenzo_2003 posted... Thats really the inconvenient truth about politics.this is disingenuous as fuck and you know it --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TetsuoS2 12/15/22 11:04:22 PM #74: |
You can probably point out that casual racism/bigotry eventually grows to be systemic issues that minorities deal with to this day. --- c ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 11:09:07 PM #76: |
TetsuoS2 posted... You can probably point out that casual racism/bigotry eventually grows to be systemic issues that minorities deal with to this day.certainly casual bigotry from people with large platforms, and whom lots of people listen to, does that --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheValiant 12/15/22 11:11:58 PM #77: |
If this actually goes to trial, she'll definitely be found not guilty, right? --- RUMBLING! RUMBLING! IT'S COMING! Rumbling. Rumbling... cOmInG fOr YoUUUUUUUUUUUU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 12/15/22 11:21:48 PM #79: |
Temporal posted... lmao of course there are the usual suspects in here who are completely okay with thisIt's great when transphobes are censored in general, wish the USA would take a few lessons. --- Have you ever had an...EGYPTIAN FEAST? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 11:34:05 PM #80: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted... It's great when transphobes are censored in general, wish the USA would take a few lessons.no, don't you see, they should be presenting her views uncritically in the news at least once an hour, to allow people to make up their own minds. surely that will stop her views from spreading! --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pennywise 12/15/22 11:47:51 PM #81: |
averagejoel posted... no, don't you see, they should be presenting her views uncritically in the news at least once an hour, to allow people to make up their own minds. surely that will stop her views from spreading! How about we don't give them a platform, and we also don't send them to jail? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perfectinsanity 12/15/22 11:54:55 PM #82: |
Shame she's facing prison time for telling the truth. --- Those who live are those who fight. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/15/22 11:57:57 PM #83: |
Pennywise posted... How about we don't give them a platform, and we also don't send them to jail?what sort of consequence do you think is appropriate for inciting violence against an identifiable group? --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pastryarchy 12/16/22 12:00:33 AM #84: |
She should not face prison time for that. Even people offended by what she said should be against such a ham-fisted tyrannical response because supporting it just makes them look like the actual villains. --- Let them eat cake. http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/05/3BY9w.gif http://tryimg.com/8/2017/06/05/3Bstc.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Temporal 12/16/22 12:01:42 AM #85: |
averagejoel posted... what sort of consequence do you think is appropriate for inciting violence against an identifiable group? is what the woman in the op did equivalent to inciting violence now? fuck off lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 12/16/22 12:04:09 AM #86: |
averagejoel posted... what sort of consequence do you think is appropriate for inciting violence against an identifiable group?Do you really want to give governments the power to equate disparaging remarks to violence? For an application not related to hatred of a protected group, look at shit like the UK where people were arrested for holding up signs protesting the monarchy during her funeral period. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solution_45 12/16/22 12:07:18 AM #87: |
averagejoel posted... what sort of consequence do you think is appropriate for inciting violence against an identifiable group?lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UamChetoBeardXD 12/16/22 12:07:19 AM #88: |
averagejoel posted... you not seeing it is your problem. these people and the comments they make when given a platform lead to trans people getting murdered. she is knowingly perpetuating that behaviour. nipping it in the bud is a much better option than anything (for example) the US and Britain have done about itLol that's so dumb, the same could be said about saying mean things about anyone. Totally unfalsifiable gobbledyguk Lorenzo_2003 posted... Thats really the inconvenient truth about politics.100%. The ultimate blackpill is that political power is all most people crave today; justice, equality, opportunity? Haha what a laugh. You take what you can and inflict what you can on those you hate. Better hope you keep that power though because when the pendulum swings back again, hoo boy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 12/16/22 12:11:18 AM #89: |
I don't know about jail time but fuck off. No empathy. She was literally asking for this. If you wouldn't say some shit to someone's face and let's be real she fucking wouldn't, then don't fucking say it on the internet either. Just stop being fucking assholes. --- #EatTheRich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/16/22 12:14:09 AM #90: |
Temporal posted... is what the woman in the op did equivalent to inciting violence now?answer the question Nemu posted... Do you really want to give governments the power to equate disparaging remarks to violence? For an application not related to hatred of a protected group, look at shit like the UK where people were arrested for holding up signs protesting the monarchy during her funeral period.answer the question Solution_45 posted... lolanswer the question --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/16/22 12:16:56 AM #91: |
UamChetoBeardXD posted... Lol that's so dumb, the same could be said about saying mean things about anyone. Totally unfalsifiable gobbledygukwho's your main --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UamChetoBeardXD 12/16/22 12:19:04 AM #92: |
averagejoel posted... answer the questionFalse premise. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/16/22 12:21:56 AM #93: |
UamChetoBeardXD posted... False premise.who's your main --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UamChetoBeardXD 12/16/22 12:27:42 AM #94: |
averagejoel posted... who's your mainad hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/16/22 12:29:40 AM #95: |
UamChetoBeardXD posted... ad hominem.it's not ad hominem because I'm not arguing with you. now answer the question: who's your main --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UamChetoBeardXD 12/16/22 12:46:16 AM #96: |
averagejoel posted... it's not ad hominem because I'm not arguing with you.Probably a wise choice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/16/22 12:52:56 AM #97: |
UamChetoBeardXD posted... Probably a wise choiceyeah dude I'm not going to engage seriously with an account from 2014 with 35 karma that's posting shit like this --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UamChetoBeardXD 12/16/22 1:03:05 AM #98: |
averagejoel posted... yeah dude I'm not going to engage seriously with an account from 2014 with 35 karma that's posting shit like thisYour self-preservation instinct is serving you well here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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toadfan64 12/16/22 1:20:11 AM #99: |
These kinda topics always remind me how detached from the real world GameFaqs is, lol. That or they're quite the master trolls. No one should be jailed for a factual statement as this --- Brawl FC - 5412-9555-6314 Also known as Toadfan64 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pennywise 12/16/22 5:29:57 AM #100: |
averagejoel posted... what sort of consequence do you think is appropriate for inciting violence against an identifiable group? Why are you asking me something I already answered? Anyway, this has nothing to do with the topic. Nobody incited violence as far as I can tell from this article. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/16/22 6:27:13 AM #101: |
toadfan64 posted... These kinda topics always remind me how detached from the real world GameFaqs is, lol. That or they're quite the master trolls.that's not what she was jailed for. you know that. everyone in this topic knows that. the person who wrote that article knows that. stop taking a fucking tabloid headline at face value --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pennywise 12/16/22 6:35:40 AM #102: |
She was not jailed for inciting violence. She was jailed for being an idiot who made a bigoted statement. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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