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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 7:43:57 AM
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Having played Turtles IV and playing Hyperstone Heist/The Return of Shredder again for the first time in awhile.

The games while somewhat similar there is still a lot of differences:

Turtles IV has more levels,story is identical to the arcade game, has the better gameplay and doesn't need a dash button.

Hyperstone Heist: less levels but a bit longer, no Slash,no Bury My shell at Wounded Knee,no Bebop, no Tokka and Rahzar,no Rat King, can't throw enemies at the screen and has lame dash button and the story isn't similar to Turtles in Time.

Turtles IV is superior to Hyperstone Heist.

Haven't touched the NES or Gameboy games or Turtles III yet.

The collection is worth $32 but apparently the online play is garbage, there's slowdown and only like 3 games are online co-op. Konami dropped the ball for online play.

The achievements are lackluster, only 13 in all.

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 12:54:49 PM
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Why is the tmnt nes game so freaking difficult?

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Alucard188
12/24/22 12:55:30 PM
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Because it's the best one.

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 12:57:48 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Because it's the best one.
That's debatale, Turtles in Time is the best Turtles game. Maybe for the NES its the best one but overall? No.

NES games in general were difficult to beat...especially Battletoads.

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CyricZ
12/24/22 12:59:55 PM
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Rewind and save states were a real good idea.

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Cocytus
12/24/22 1:04:20 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
That's debatale, Turtles in Time is the best Turtles game. Maybe for the NES its the best one but overall? No.

NES games in general were difficult to beat...especially Battletoads.
That was the trend in the 80s with games, particularly arcade, and then home games would emulate that difficulty style because it's kind of what you came to expect. In the arcades, you know, they wanted people to drop them quarters. So naturally they made the games difficult to progress. Anything that wasn't difficult was considered a kids' game (though at that time a majority of Americans thought all games were kids' games, unless you played them). Home console games' objective from the go was to bring the arcade experience home, and part of the model was the difficulty concept.
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CyricZ
12/24/22 1:10:10 PM
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Cocytus posted...
That was the trend in the 80s with games
Do we honestly have Sakurai to thank for trying to break the trend with Kirby?

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Hornswoggled
12/24/22 1:12:34 PM
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The input delay on PS4 makes the first NES game damn near impossible for me to play. Makes a lot of my skill at the game go out the window. That game requires precise controls.
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Returning_CEmen
12/24/22 1:14:00 PM
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Got this for my brother so he can play it with my nephews and teach them TMNT

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CyricZ
12/24/22 1:14:03 PM
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Wow really? I noticed no problem with Switch.

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 1:23:11 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

There's none for Turtles IV,Turtles in Time or Hyperstone Heist.

Turtles in Time input is exactly the same as it was on the snes

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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:13:27 PM
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I shouldn't have wasted my money on it. Shredder's Revenge is the superior TMNT game and it made it obsolete months before this came out.

I wanted to play TMNT 1 on my Switch so I talked myself into it.

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Billyionaire
12/24/22 2:15:17 PM
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Electric seaweed

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:22:48 PM
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WarfireX posted...
I shouldn't have wasted my money on it. Shredder's Revenge is the superior TMNT game and it made it obsolete months before this came out.

I wanted to play TMNT 1 on my Switch so I talked myself into it.
LOL, no it's not. It took 80% of the gameplay elements from the original arcade game and Turtles in Time. That doesn't make it superior at all and the story is lame compared to the og arcade game and Turtles in Time.


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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:26:28 PM
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Dot Emu and Tribute Games ripped off gameplay elements from both arcade games, that doesn't make Shredder's Revenge superior in anyway.

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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:27:19 PM
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Yes it is. Typing LOL in front of your post doesn't make it more valid.

I don't even need to argue with you. One is an actual modern video game made to be enjoyed. The other is a machine designed to take quarters from you.

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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:28:02 PM
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lol why did you even make that redundant post? I know you're thin skinned, but getting worked up over this????

Also big LOL @ "My TMNT story!!!!". Wtf are you on about?

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CyricZ
12/24/22 2:29:09 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
Dot Emu and Tribute Games ripped off gameplay elements from both arcade games, that doesn't make Shredder's Revenge superior in anyway.
Tribute put considerably more into the mechanics of Shredders Revenge. It is the natural evolution of the formula and superior in my opinion.

EDIT: But I just realized you're arguing with someone I can't see so...

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:30:00 PM
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WarfireX posted...


WarfireX posted...
Yes it is. Typing LOL in front of your post doesn't make it more valid.

I don't even need to argue with you. One is an actual modern video game made to be enjoyed. The other is a machine designed to take quarters from you.
Ripping off gameplay elements from the two arcade games and even Turtles IV doesn't make it superior. Goes to show Dot Emu and Tribute Games have no original ideas.

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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:32:17 PM
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lol he's so mad he's hitting reply to one of my posts multiple times.

Dude go outside and do a Karate Kata to calm down or something. You're getting upset over which TMNT game is better and you aren't even right.

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:32:19 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Tribute put considerably more into the mechanics of Shredders Revenge. It is the natural evolution of the formula and superior in my opinion.

EDIT: But I just realized you're arguing with someone I can't see so...
What mechanics did they add ?

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:33:27 PM
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WarfireX posted...
lol he's so mad he's hitting reply to one of my posts multiple times.

Dude go outside and do a Karate Kata to calm down or something. You're getting upset over which TMNT game is better and you aren't even right.
Not even mad, you're just wrong. Ripping off gameplay mechanics doesnt make a game superior

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CyricZ
12/24/22 2:38:52 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
What mechanics did they add ?
Defensive moves, combo stringing, launchers, multiple supers per character.

I'm not saying they didn't judiciously pluck from other brawlers (quite a bit from SoR), but it is absolutely an evolution. Only thing that matters is if that's significant to you.

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MarcyWarcy
12/24/22 2:39:49 PM
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WarfireX posted...
lol he's so mad he's hitting reply to one of my posts multiple times.

Dude go outside and do a Karate Kata to calm down or something. You're getting upset over which TMNT game is better and you aren't even right.

octillery has some sort of actual problem i think
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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:40:16 PM
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You keep saying that like it's a point. You can't dig up anything else against the game?

And it's extremely obvious you're angry. Maybe not at me, but you seem like some weirdo that sees red the moment you think of something you didn't like.

Cowabunga Collection is a waste of money and shouldn't exist.

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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:41:26 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
octillery has some sort of actual problem i think
Is that MrKarate? Why not just call him MrKarate? I'm not going to make note of who each one of you are.

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:42:33 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Defensive moves, combo stringing, launchers, multiple supers per character.

I'm not saying they didn't judiciously pluck from other brawlers (quite a bit from SoR), but it is absolutely an evolution. Only thing that matters is if that's significant to you.
I mean they still took a lot from the two arcade games and the story is meh at best.

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Mr_Karate_II
12/24/22 2:43:27 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
octillery has some sort of actual problem i think
You're confusing me with someone else.

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WarfireX
12/24/22 2:44:16 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
You're confusing me with someone else.
Idk, he sounds pretty spot on.

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RaptorLC
12/24/22 2:45:58 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Because it's the best one.

Well, no. There is a point to be made that TMNT2 was a pretty awful port of the arcade game in hindsight, and therefore the original TMNT may have been the better game.

That argument doesn't address the fact that TMNT 3: The Manhattan Project exists though, and that game completely blows the janky ass original out of the water.

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