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CableZL
01/03/23 12:58:33 PM
#52:


Heineken14 posted...
What was she saying? Saw someone else specifically point out her lies but I'm not watching... but still morbidly curious.
The one that stood out to me was her saying something along the lines of Republicans reduced either spending or the debt when they last had control.

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PiOverlord
01/03/23 12:58:55 PM
#53:


I think McCarthy is already one Republican party vote away from not winning I believe.

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CableZL
01/03/23 12:59:00 PM
#54:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


There have been 3 non-McCarthy votes so far, IIRC. He can only afford to lose 1 more.

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:00:27 PM
#55:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

He needs 218 votes and the Repubs have 222 seats.
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CableZL
01/03/23 1:01:01 PM
#56:


Another vote for Jim Jordan

McCarthy can't lose any more

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:01:36 PM
#57:


Someone just voted for Biggs

I don't think McCarthy has the votes. That's 5 non-McCarthy votes by my count

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PiOverlord
01/03/23 1:01:56 PM
#58:


Yep, he can't win now. We'll need another vote.

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bluezero
01/03/23 1:02:21 PM
#60:


The people giving a little speech are kinda cringe.

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DarkRoast
01/03/23 1:02:40 PM
#61:


This is a clusterfuck of their own making.

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:02:48 PM
#62:


Another vote for Biggs

6 non-McCarthy votes in the GOP caucus

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PiOverlord
01/03/23 1:02:53 PM
#63:


bluezero posted...
The people giving a little speech are kinda cringe.
No kidding. Just say the name, lmao.

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:02:59 PM
#64:


CableZL posted...
Someone just voted for Biggs

I don't think McCarthy has the votes. That's 5 non-McCarthy votes by my count
It's already 6, and Biggs got one more after I capped this

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:03:04 PM
#65:


WTF even happens after this

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:03:09 PM
#66:


bluezero posted...
The people giving a little speech are kinda cringe.
The first one was fun. But GET ON WITH IT

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DarkRoast
01/03/23 1:03:31 PM
#67:


What happens if Jeffries gets a majority

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:03:51 PM
#68:


DarkRoast posted...
What happens if Jeffries gets a majority
He won't, but he would become speaker. That's the whole point of the vote.
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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:03:56 PM
#69:


PiOverlord posted...
Yep, he can't win now. We'll need another vote.
Can Jeffries win instead, then?

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:04:03 PM
#70:


DarkRoast posted...
What happens if Jeffries gets a majority

He'd become speaker, but there aren't enough Democrats to accomplish that. Some Republicans would have to cross over.

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HairyQueen
01/03/23 1:04:06 PM
#71:


DarkRoast posted...
What happens if Jeffries gets a majority
If he gets at least 218, I assume he'd be the speaker.

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:04:58 PM
#72:


CableZL posted...
He'd become speaker, but there aren't enough Democrats to accomplish that. Some Republicans would have to cross over.
Dang

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:05:39 PM
#74:


I think I heard somewhere that there hasn't been a failed speaker election in about 100 years

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PiOverlord
01/03/23 1:05:42 PM
#75:


CableZL posted...
WTF even happens after this
Scrambling by McCarthy to get people to vote for him. Eventually, more voting probably a few hours later.

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:07:06 PM
#76:


There's a Representative named Fishfock?
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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:08:24 PM
#77:


Even If the Dems don't have a majority, it Jeffries votes outnumber McCarthy votes, does that not make him Speaker?

Or, just Speaker for a a few hours?

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:08:27 PM
#78:


Was that another Biggs vote?

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:08:34 PM
#79:


Gaetz didn't vote for Jordan like he said he was going to
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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:09:09 PM
#80:


EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Even If the Dems don't have a majority, it Jeffries votes outnumber McCarthy votes, does that not make him Speaker?

Or, just Speaker for a a few hours?
You need a majority of the votes cast, with "Present" not counting.
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CableZL
01/03/23 1:09:32 PM
#81:


I just switched to the C-SPAN stream that has the count... I think the PBS News Hour channel pops up first for me because that's what I was using for the January 6th select committee hearings

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bluezero
01/03/23 1:10:02 PM
#82:


People brought their kids to this? They're allowed to bring their kids to this?

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:10:41 PM
#83:


9 non-McCarthy votes now

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:11:04 PM
#84:


bluezero posted...
People brought their kids to this? They're allowed to bring their kids to this?
Gives it a nice family feeling, like we're all just visiting grandma for the afternoon.

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:11:18 PM
#85:


bluezero posted...
People brought their kids to this? They're allowed to bring their kids to this?
Yeah, people commonly bring kids to events like this. It's really only viewed as risky now because of January 6th.

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:12:20 PM
#86:


10 non-McCarthy votes. McCarthy has work to do to get to 218.

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:14:22 PM
#87:


CableZL posted...
10 non-McCarthy votes. McCarthy has work to do to get to 218.
Doesn't seem fair that they can't just have closed backroom meetings afterwards, call a mulligan, and do it again.

If you don't get the votes the first time, that should be that.

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:15:00 PM
#88:


11 non-McCarthy votes?

Unless I'm mistaken, no Democrats have voted for someone else yet.

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PiOverlord
01/03/23 1:15:11 PM
#89:


McCarthy won't even have more votes than his democrat opposition now.

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TomClark
01/03/23 1:15:55 PM
#90:


BewmHedshot posted...
You need a majority of the votes cast, with "Present" not counting.

So theoretically, if the Republican vote is split enough could the Dems throw in enough Presents to get Jeffries a majority?

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PiOverlord
01/03/23 1:16:42 PM
#91:


TomClark posted...
So theoretically, if the Republican vote is split enough could the Dems throw in enough Presents to get Jeffries a majority?
No. Democrats voting present would actually help McCarthy out.

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:17:32 PM
#92:


PiOverlord posted...
No. Democrats voting present would actually help McCarthy out.
Correct, minority party reps voting present only hurts the minority.
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K181
01/03/23 1:17:33 PM
#93:


TomClark posted...
So theoretically, if the Republican vote is split enough could the Dems throw in enough Presents to get Jeffries a majority?

No, a majority is needed. Jeffries getting a plurality wouldn't cut it.

Dems' best hope is getting a conservative Dem or a not-batshit crazy GOPer elected speaker.

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:19:48 PM
#94:


I could swear McCarthy's hair has become more white in the past hour.

He looks rough.

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CableZL
01/03/23 1:21:30 PM
#95:


12 non-McCarthy votes now

Wow

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Tyranthraxus
01/03/23 1:21:37 PM
#96:


K181 posted...
No, a majority is needed. Jeffries getting a plurality wouldn't cut it.

Dems' best hope is getting a conservative Dem or a not-batshit crazy GOPer elected speaker.
Dems should just scuttle some cash under the desk to get Jeffries elected. They just need 5 votes.

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TomClark
01/03/23 1:21:38 PM
#97:


PiOverlord posted...
No. Democrats voting present would actually help McCarthy out.

Ah, fair enough

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uwnim
01/03/23 1:21:56 PM
#98:


Dunno what he can do. Easiest way to get speaker would be to make deals with democrats, but that would probably get him primaried in two years.

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EyeWontBeFooled
01/03/23 1:21:57 PM
#99:


CableZL posted...
12 non-McCarthy votes now

Wow
Let them fight.

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BewmHedshot
01/03/23 1:23:07 PM
#100:


uwnim posted...
Dunno what he can do. Easiest way to get speaker would be to make deals with democrats, but that would probably get him primaried in two years.
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